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Mark A. Sam
Are there any "good" email programs out there or are they all garbage? I
can't tolerate Outlook any longer.
Thanks.
Mark A. Sam
can't tolerate Outlook any longer.
Thanks.
Mark A. Sam
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Tom - Safercomputing.com
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Roady [MVP]
And what is your issue with Outlook then?
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SgtRich
You "can't tolerate" Outlook Express, either?
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<<<SgtRich>>>
Email Client: Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
News Client (Text): Forté Agent 2.0 www.forteinc.com
News Client (Binaries): News Rover 9.2 www.newsrover.com
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Mark A. Sam
Roady,
Two things that I will mention that are really agitating (and the agitation
increases with the issues from other Microsoft program, especially Access).
I have 15 email accounts that I retreive mail from. Everytime I reboot I
need to edit the email settings becuase the Pop3 Account gets contatinated
with the User Name on each account like this:
[email protected]/ pop.registeredsite.com
For each account I need to High light the pop account info and cut it. Then
hit the back space to get rid of the slash /. The I need to highlight the
word Localhost which was entered somehow as the Incoming mail server. Then
Paste. If I don't do this Outlook won't retrieve the mail and issues
errors.
A while ago I posted this issue on this group and was told the problem was
my antivirus. I discovered recenlty that if I only open Outlook and no
other Microsoft program, the issue doesn't occur. Soon after I open
Internet Explorer or Access, then I get errors and all my accounts bomb and
I need to go through the routine.
You would think, "well don't reboot so often". If my computer runs
Microsoft programs (that is basically all I use) for a length of time,
applications take minutes to open. I open and close Internet explorer and
Access frequently so when this occurs, I need to reboot. This happens 3 or
4 times a day causing me to go through the above rountine with each reboot.
I had a problem with IE when opening .pdf files which froze my screen (this
was definately a IE issue) and forced me to reboot due to accidently opening
the .PDF files from websites I was looking at. I just resolved this, but it
had been a headache until yesterday.
That is problem 1.
Problem 2 is partly resolved. It was the Security Guard popping up whenever
I sent an email from Access. I got a solution to use a program called
ClickYes. This works great except that it moves the mouse pointer to the
Security Guard box in order to click the Yes button. Sometimes I send many
emails from a continuous form and have to move the mouse pointer back to the
form each time.
The big issue with this is that Microsoft ever incorporated this idiot
feature. What were they thinking? Couldn't they figure out how to allow
its own programs to bypass this annoyance?
These are two issues from one application. Add this to the myriad of issues
with Access and other Microsoft programs and you would know my frustration.
In the past I tried to be understanding about these things, thinking they
would eventually get resolved, but they don't and new issues seem to pop up
out of nowhere. It isn't acceptable. I used to defend Microsoft, but no
more. Microsoft has gotten too fat, lazy, and incompetent. Most of the
time I can't get resolutions to my problems or I need to spend much time
with them.
God Bless,
Mark A. Sam
Two things that I will mention that are really agitating (and the agitation
increases with the issues from other Microsoft program, especially Access).
I have 15 email accounts that I retreive mail from. Everytime I reboot I
need to edit the email settings becuase the Pop3 Account gets contatinated
with the User Name on each account like this:
[email protected]/ pop.registeredsite.com
For each account I need to High light the pop account info and cut it. Then
hit the back space to get rid of the slash /. The I need to highlight the
word Localhost which was entered somehow as the Incoming mail server. Then
Paste. If I don't do this Outlook won't retrieve the mail and issues
errors.
A while ago I posted this issue on this group and was told the problem was
my antivirus. I discovered recenlty that if I only open Outlook and no
other Microsoft program, the issue doesn't occur. Soon after I open
Internet Explorer or Access, then I get errors and all my accounts bomb and
I need to go through the routine.
You would think, "well don't reboot so often". If my computer runs
Microsoft programs (that is basically all I use) for a length of time,
applications take minutes to open. I open and close Internet explorer and
Access frequently so when this occurs, I need to reboot. This happens 3 or
4 times a day causing me to go through the above rountine with each reboot.
I had a problem with IE when opening .pdf files which froze my screen (this
was definately a IE issue) and forced me to reboot due to accidently opening
the .PDF files from websites I was looking at. I just resolved this, but it
had been a headache until yesterday.
That is problem 1.
Problem 2 is partly resolved. It was the Security Guard popping up whenever
I sent an email from Access. I got a solution to use a program called
ClickYes. This works great except that it moves the mouse pointer to the
Security Guard box in order to click the Yes button. Sometimes I send many
emails from a continuous form and have to move the mouse pointer back to the
form each time.
The big issue with this is that Microsoft ever incorporated this idiot
feature. What were they thinking? Couldn't they figure out how to allow
its own programs to bypass this annoyance?
These are two issues from one application. Add this to the myriad of issues
with Access and other Microsoft programs and you would know my frustration.
In the past I tried to be understanding about these things, thinking they
would eventually get resolved, but they don't and new issues seem to pop up
out of nowhere. It isn't acceptable. I used to defend Microsoft, but no
more. Microsoft has gotten too fat, lazy, and incompetent. Most of the
time I can't get resolutions to my problems or I need to spend much time
with them.
God Bless,
Mark A. Sam
Roady said:
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Mark A. Sam
SgtRich said:
No and I was hoping to escape to Siberia but I am told that they have
computers there also. The Russian Government no longers punishes people
with hard labor, they just give them email.
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filesiteguy
<snip>
Okay, here's one thing...
....Get rid of that POS!!!!!!
There are many free newsreaders which will serve you better and with
far less security holes than OE. I used to be an OE person as well,
until I learned better. I currently use Agent when I'm stuck in
Windows. - http://www.forteinc.com
I also have heard that XNews is very good, though I "like" Agent
better. http://xnews.newsguy.com/
When I'm at home I just use KNode as it came by default. It is my
favorite: http://knode.sourceforge.net/ You can see a recent
screenshot here: http://donutmonster.com/stuff/osama.jpg of me
ignoring a virus.
As for email programs you could use my new favorite - Thunderbird.
This app has really proven itself in the short time I've been using
it. I've even converted my wife (on NT 5.0) from OE to this app and
imported her messages and contacts with no problem.
You can get it here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
HTH!
kai
www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org
g2004 at g3prod.cotse.net
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Mark A. Sam
The newsreader isn't an issue with me, only Outlook as my email client. I
have the link to Thunderbird, but don't want to download it until I know
more about it. I can't divorce myself from Outlook completely yet. Is
Thunderbird and Automation server?
Thanks
have the link to Thunderbird, but don't want to download it until I know
more about it. I can't divorce myself from Outlook completely yet. Is
Thunderbird and Automation server?
Thanks
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Roady [MVP]
Hi Mark,
Sorry to hear you have these issues. The account settings behaviour however
is still caused by your virusscanner not Outlook. Outlook doesn't have build
in "proxy" configuration so set things to localhost.
With the pdf-thing; my experience with Adobe products is that they were
never build to be fast. Also the IE integration has caused me so much issues
in the past I'll never use it again. I just have it open up in Adobe Acrobat
know instead of IE and that has cured most of the issues (it's still slow!)
The security prompts are a pain inceed but they did help the security
awereness and overal security. Expect the security prompts to be gone in
future releases. Till then ClickYes is a "solution" indeed or program with
Redemption; http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/ I believe there are some
other solutions posted at www.slipstick.com as well.
--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com
Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
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Sorry to hear you have these issues. The account settings behaviour however
is still caused by your virusscanner not Outlook. Outlook doesn't have build
in "proxy" configuration so set things to localhost.
With the pdf-thing; my experience with Adobe products is that they were
never build to be fast. Also the IE integration has caused me so much issues
in the past I'll never use it again. I just have it open up in Adobe Acrobat
know instead of IE and that has cured most of the issues (it's still slow!)
The security prompts are a pain inceed but they did help the security
awereness and overal security. Expect the security prompts to be gone in
future releases. Till then ClickYes is a "solution" indeed or program with
Redemption; http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/ I believe there are some
other solutions posted at www.slipstick.com as well.
--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com
Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
-----
Mark A. Sam said:
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filesiteguy
huh? What is an "Automation server"?
kai
www.perfectreign.com || www.filesite.org
g2004 at g3prod.cotse.net
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Mark A. Sam
An automation server is a program running the Microsoft environment which
can be controlled from another program. For example, from Microsoft Access
I can control Outlook, Excel, another Access Program, even outside programs
like Autocad. I have applications which read attachments from Outlook and
save them to a new file so that my program can extract the data. I need to
be able to keep this capability.
God Bless,
Mark
can be controlled from another program. For example, from Microsoft Access
I can control Outlook, Excel, another Access Program, even outside programs
like Autocad. I have applications which read attachments from Outlook and
save them to a new file so that my program can extract the data. I need to
be able to keep this capability.
God Bless,
Mark
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filesiteguy
Mark A. Sam scratched out in the sand
aaagh!! topposting...
http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost
Anyway, you mean to say that you allow various programs to take email
attachments and process them? Woah - that doesn't sound kosher. In fact
isn't that basically OLE allowing other apps to perform unattended actions?
Remind me to ship you over a nice simple trojan. (NOTE: Not gonna happen.)
Good luck out there and don't be a zombie for too many bots.
aaagh!! topposting...
http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost
Anyway, you mean to say that you allow various programs to take email
attachments and process them? Woah - that doesn't sound kosher. In fact
isn't that basically OLE allowing other apps to perform unattended actions?
Remind me to ship you over a nice simple trojan. (NOTE: Not gonna happen.)
Good luck out there and don't be a zombie for too many bots.
M
Mark A. Sam
No...lol. I have an MS Access program that I wrote to read certain email
letters and process the attachments. It is on my computer for my own use.
A few years ago I had a client that needed Autocad drawings created then
populated with information from Excel spreadsheets. I used Access to do
this. With VBA I was able to control the Autocad program and interact with
it. There are very good uses for Automation other than what hackers have in
mind.
God Bless,
Mark
letters and process the attachments. It is on my computer for my own use.
A few years ago I had a client that needed Autocad drawings created then
populated with information from Excel spreadsheets. I used Access to do
this. With VBA I was able to control the Autocad program and interact with
it. There are very good uses for Automation other than what hackers have in
mind.
God Bless,
Mark