Greek in Entourage

[irakleas]

Hi guys - I have been using Entourage 2004 and now 2008 on a Mac and
have had the following problem I cannot explain:

When I use Entourage to write an email in English everything is fine,
but when I write an email in Greek the recipient sees questionmarks
"?????" in place of the Greek characters I wrote. Same thing happens
to a Greek friend of mine who uses Entourage (i.e. everytime he uses
Greek in Entourage to send me an email, I receive questionmarks
instead).

The above does not happen when sending email in Greek directly from
gmail/hotmail web service or when using Outlook on a PC, so it
certainly has to do with how Entourage deals with or encodes Greek
when sending emails.

Has anyone had this problem or has an idea of how I can fix this?

Many thanks,

Irakleas

 

[William Smith [MVP]]

When I use Entourage to write an email in English everything is fine,
but when I write an email in Greek the recipient sees questionmarks
"?????" in place of the Greek characters I wrote. Same thing happens
to a Greek friend of mine who uses Entourage (i.e. everytime he uses
Greek in Entourage to send me an email, I receive questionmarks
instead).

The above does not happen when sending email in Greek directly from
gmail/hotmail web service or when using Outlook on a PC, so it
certainly has to do with how Entourage deals with or encodes Greek
when sending emails.

I have very little experience with language support in Entourage but I
do notice that when composing a mail message, you can select Format -->
Character Set --> Greek (ISO).

Does setting this before sending the message have any effect on your
recipient's ability to read the message?

--

bill

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[irakleas]

I have very little experience with language support in Entourage but I
do notice that when composing a mail message, you can select Format -->
Character Set -->Greek(ISO).

Does setting this before sending the message have any effect on your
recipient's ability to read the message?

--

bill

Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>
YouTalk <http://nine.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/youtalk>
Twitter: follow <http://twitter.com/meck>

It does!!! - I tried sending a test email to myself in greek, once
with automatic and once changing to Greek (ISO). The automatic (which
is also always the default when starting a new email message) returned
questionmarks whereas the Greek (ISO) returned the text in Greek. Good
call Bill! Now I guess the important thing is to remember to change it
everytime I write an email in Greek It would be really cool if
this was in some way linked to the language you are writing in so that
it automatically changes to the right format that will make the
message go through....
Many thanks for this Bill!

-irakleas

 

[Diane Ross]

I found the following from some old threads. (Setting the default Character
set posted during this time period. 3/16/08-5/08/08 on the
microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage newsgroup

This is how we do it in Greece:

1. Save the following AppleScript (created by Loizos Pavlides,
modified for Entourage 2008 by Spiros Stoupakis) in ~/Documents/
Microsoft User Data/Entourage Script Menu Items.

-- figure out which messages to process
on run
tell application "Microsoft Entourage"
set |THEMESSAGES| to the outgoing messages of the outbox folder
repeat with |THEMSG| in |THEMESSAGES|
my |PROCESSMSG|(|THEMSG|)
end repeat
end tell
end run

-- process the messages
on |PROCESSMSG|(|THEMSG|)
set the «class qpro» of |THEMSG| to {«class chrS»:"ISO-8859-7"}
if «class dlvs» of |THEMSG| is «constant Edlvunst» then
«event mailsend» |THEMSG|
end if
end |PROCESSMSG|

2. In Entourage, go to menu: Tools/Schedules and in the window that
opens double click: Send & Receive All.
3. In the Action field select: Run AppleScript.
4. Click the button: Script... and select the script you have just
saved.
5. Set the frequency of the schedule (e.g. run every 5 minutes) and
enable it.
6. Type your new message in greek and SELECT TO SEND IT LATER (Message/
Send Message Later).

Within the next 5 minutes the message will get the correct greek
character set (ISO-8859-7) and will be send. If you can't wait, press
the button: Send/Receive.

any other way without sending later ?...i am using exchange so it is a
nightmare to do all the time that when i want to send an email.

giasou file...ante na doume me ti microsoft epiteloous..!..pros to
paron xrisimopoiw to mail tou leopard gia exchange..logo tou
encoding..

There's rather simple workaround which works for me perfectly. Simply
put into your signature an EURO sign somewhere, give it white colour
(= it's not visible) and voila - it's done. The simple fact that EURO
sign is presented in message is one of the reasons when Entourage
decide to use UTF-8 encoding for it.-Evzen


Hope this helps!