How can I do this?

R

Rick

I have included a word and pdf form for customers to download from
here: http://www.theplaqueshack.com/order_form.htm
What I would like to be able to do is to have a incremental counter
that prints on each order form every time somebody downloads it.
Is this possible and how would I do it?
Many thanks for all your help.
Rick
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Not possible.

Why are you creating Word and PDF, instead of just a online form, that a user could fill in, and
then print/mail or online/email to you or have then purchase direct thru PayPal, etc.
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J

Jim Buyens

-----Original Message-----
I have included a word and pdf form for customers to
download from here:
http://www.theplaqueshack.com/order_form.htm
What I would like to be able to do is to have a
incremental counter that prints on each order form every
time somebody downloads it.
Is this possible and how would I do it?
Many thanks for all your help.
Rick

With Word, you might have luck adding a macro to the
document, and having the macro request a serial number
from your Web site the first time the visitor opens it.
However, this has two points of failure:

o The visitor will get a warning dialog when the macro
starts, and may refuse to run the macro. (After all,
this is how some viruses replicate).
o The visitor may have disconnected from the Internet.

In addition, this technique requires decidedly non-trivial
programming skills, both in MS Word and on the Web server.

In the case of PDF, you would need to get a PDF
programming toolkit and write code to create the output
document you want. In terms of programming skills, this is
even more difficult that the MS Word solution.

In both cases, replacing the paper form with an electronic
form would probably be easier.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
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|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
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S

Stefan B Rusynko

Jim

Don't see any way to run the Word macro (VBA) from the web interface, since VBA is unsupported in browsers
- only way the macro might run is from the saved Word file on the users PC
(but that would not have any ability to get a sequence # from the web/server)




| >-----Original Message-----
| >I have included a word and pdf form for customers to
| >download from here:
| >http://www.theplaqueshack.com/order_form.htm
| >What I would like to be able to do is to have a
| >incremental counter that prints on each order form every
| >time somebody downloads it.
| >Is this possible and how would I do it?
| >Many thanks for all your help.
| >Rick
|
| With Word, you might have luck adding a macro to the
| document, and having the macro request a serial number
| from your Web site the first time the visitor opens it.
| However, this has two points of failure:
|
| o The visitor will get a warning dialog when the macro
| starts, and may refuse to run the macro. (After all,
| this is how some viruses replicate).
| o The visitor may have disconnected from the Internet.
|
| In addition, this technique requires decidedly non-trivial
| programming skills, both in MS Word and on the Web server.
|
| In the case of PDF, you would need to get a PDF
| programming toolkit and write code to create the output
| document you want. In terms of programming skills, this is
| even more difficult that the MS Word solution.
|
| In both cases, replacing the paper form with an electronic
| form would probably be easier.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
 
M

Mike Mueller

Stefan-
The saved Word file may not be able to get a sequence
number per se, but it will have a unique "created date" on
the users pc which I believe would be accessible via the
file system object.
Would it be possible on a web server to have a script
which would create a copy of a 'master' word document and
then that is what is downloaded and then have the script
delete that copied file when the DL was complete?

Mike


: Jim
:
: Don't see any way to run the Word macro (VBA) from the web
interface, since VBA is unsupported in browsers
: - only way the macro might run is from the saved Word file
on the users PC
: (but that would not have any ability to get a sequence #
from the web/server)
:
: --
:
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: "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
: To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
: http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
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:
:
: | >-----Original Message-----
: | >I have included a word and pdf form for customers to
: | >download from here:
: | >http://www.theplaqueshack.com/order_form.htm
: | >What I would like to be able to do is to have a
: | >incremental counter that prints on each order form
every
: | >time somebody downloads it.
: | >Is this possible and how would I do it?
: | >Many thanks for all your help.
: | >Rick
: |
: | With Word, you might have luck adding a macro to the
: | document, and having the macro request a serial number
: | from your Web site the first time the visitor opens it.
: | However, this has two points of failure:
: |
: | o The visitor will get a warning dialog when the macro
: | starts, and may refuse to run the macro. (After all,
: | this is how some viruses replicate).
: | o The visitor may have disconnected from the Internet.
: |
: | In addition, this technique requires decidedly
non-trivial
: | programming skills, both in MS Word and on the Web
server.
: |
: | In the case of PDF, you would need to get a PDF
: | programming toolkit and write code to create the output
: | document you want. In terms of programming skills, this
is
: | even more difficult that the MS Word solution.
: |
: | In both cases, replacing the paper form with an
electronic
: | form would probably be easier.
: |
: | Jim Buyens
: | Microsoft FrontPage MVP
: | http://www.interlacken.com
: | Author of:
: | *----------------------------------------------------
: | |\---------------------------------------------------
: | || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
: | ||---------------------------------------------------
: | || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
: | || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
: | || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
: | || (All from Microsoft Press)
: | |/---------------------------------------------------
: | *----------------------------------------------------
: |
:
:
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Not from the web server, but you could have VBA code in the word doc to "write" that info to the doc when it is 1st opened in word
from users PC
- if the user allows the macros to run

IMHO
find another solution like generating the content from a database online




| Stefan-
| The saved Word file may not be able to get a sequence
| number per se, but it will have a unique "created date" on
| the users pc which I believe would be accessible via the
| file system object.
| Would it be possible on a web server to have a script
| which would create a copy of a 'master' word document and
| then that is what is downloaded and then have the script
| delete that copied file when the DL was complete?
|
| Mike
|
|
| | : Jim
| :
| : Don't see any way to run the Word macro (VBA) from the web
| interface, since VBA is unsupported in browsers
| : - only way the macro might run is from the saved Word file
| on the users PC
| : (but that would not have any ability to get a sequence #
| from the web/server)
| :
| : --
| :
| : _____________________________________________
| : SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| : "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| : To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| : http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| : _____________________________________________
| :
| :
| | : | >-----Original Message-----
| : | >I have included a word and pdf form for customers to
| : | >download from here:
| : | >http://www.theplaqueshack.com/order_form.htm
| : | >What I would like to be able to do is to have a
| : | >incremental counter that prints on each order form
| every
| : | >time somebody downloads it.
| : | >Is this possible and how would I do it?
| : | >Many thanks for all your help.
| : | >Rick
| : |
| : | With Word, you might have luck adding a macro to the
| : | document, and having the macro request a serial number
| : | from your Web site the first time the visitor opens it.
| : | However, this has two points of failure:
| : |
| : | o The visitor will get a warning dialog when the macro
| : | starts, and may refuse to run the macro. (After all,
| : | this is how some viruses replicate).
| : | o The visitor may have disconnected from the Internet.
| : |
| : | In addition, this technique requires decidedly
| non-trivial
| : | programming skills, both in MS Word and on the Web
| server.
| : |
| : | In the case of PDF, you would need to get a PDF
| : | programming toolkit and write code to create the output
| : | document you want. In terms of programming skills, this
| is
| : | even more difficult that the MS Word solution.
| : |
| : | In both cases, replacing the paper form with an
| electronic
| : | form would probably be easier.
| : |
| : | Jim Buyens
| : | Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| : | http://www.interlacken.com
| : | Author of:
| : | *----------------------------------------------------
| : | |\---------------------------------------------------
| : | || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| : | ||---------------------------------------------------
| : | || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| : | || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| : | || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| : | || (All from Microsoft Press)
| : | |/---------------------------------------------------
| : | *----------------------------------------------------
| : |
| :
| :
|
|
 
M

Mike Mueller

Stefan-
I agree with using an online DB. I just had one of
those 'outside the box' ideas and I did not know if some
server programming could do that.

Mike

: Not from the web server, but you could have VBA code in
the word doc to "write" that info to the doc when it is 1st
opened in word
: from users PC
: - if the user allows the macros to run
:
: IMHO
: find another solution like generating the content from a
database online
:
: --
:
: _____________________________________________
: SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
: "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
: To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
: http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
: _____________________________________________
:
:
message : | Stefan-
: | The saved Word file may not be able to get a
sequence
: | number per se, but it will have a unique "created date"
on
: | the users pc which I believe would be accessible via the
: | file system object.
: | Would it be possible on a web server to have a script
: | which would create a copy of a 'master' word document
and
: | then that is what is downloaded and then have the script
: | delete that copied file when the DL was complete?
: |
: | Mike
: |
: |
message
: | : | : Jim
: | :
: | : Don't see any way to run the Word macro (VBA) from the
web
: | interface, since VBA is unsupported in browsers
: | : - only way the macro might run is from the saved Word
file
: | on the users PC
: | : (but that would not have any ability to get a sequence
#
: | from the web/server)
: | :
: | : --
: | :
: | : _____________________________________________
: | : SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
: | : "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
: | : To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
: | : http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
: | : _____________________________________________
: | :
: | :
: | : | : | >-----Original Message-----
: | : | >I have included a word and pdf form for customers
to
: | : | >download from here:
: | : | >http://www.theplaqueshack.com/order_form.htm
: | : | >What I would like to be able to do is to have a
: | : | >incremental counter that prints on each order form
: | every
: | : | >time somebody downloads it.
: | : | >Is this possible and how would I do it?
: | : | >Many thanks for all your help.
: | : | >Rick
: | : |
: | : | With Word, you might have luck adding a macro to the
: | : | document, and having the macro request a serial
number
: | : | from your Web site the first time the visitor opens
it.
: | : | However, this has two points of failure:
: | : |
: | : | o The visitor will get a warning dialog when the
macro
: | : | starts, and may refuse to run the macro. (After
all,
: | : | this is how some viruses replicate).
: | : | o The visitor may have disconnected from the
Internet.
: | : |
: | : | In addition, this technique requires decidedly
: | non-trivial
: | : | programming skills, both in MS Word and on the Web
: | server.
: | : |
: | : | In the case of PDF, you would need to get a PDF
: | : | programming toolkit and write code to create the
output
: | : | document you want. In terms of programming skills,
this
: | is
: | : | even more difficult that the MS Word solution.
: | : |
: | : | In both cases, replacing the paper form with an
: | electronic
: | : | form would probably be easier.
: | : |
: | : | Jim Buyens
: | : | Microsoft FrontPage MVP
: | : | http://www.interlacken.com
: | : | Author of:
: | : |
*----------------------------------------------------
: | : |
|\---------------------------------------------------
: | : | || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
: | : |
||---------------------------------------------------
: | : | || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET
Edition
: | : | || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
: | : | || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
: | : | || (All from Microsoft Press)
: | : |
|/---------------------------------------------------
: | : |
*----------------------------------------------------
: | : |
: | :
: | :
: |
: |
:
:
 
J

Jim Buyens

Right: the Word document wouldn't have a sequence number until the
visitor opened it. An autorun macro would then have to run, determine
that no sequence number was assigned, and connect to the Web site
where an ASP page or Web service would supply one.

Again, as I said, the programming skills to do this are non-trivial,
and I much favor a 100% Web-based solution.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
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