Agree
- nothing fixes the problems of using frames (-;
All you can do is provide as many non frame "aides" to users and SE as possible to help them
|I don't see that as fixing the problem that Jon describes, but for sure,
| it's a unique opportunity for content that should not be missed if you must
| use frames.
|
| --
| Murray
| ============
|
| | > That's why it always helps (if you must use frames) to always use No
| > Frames pages w/ at least plain text nav / site map content to
| > all the pages in the site
| > - One approach is to build the pages w/o frames and nav bars (but internal
| > page links) and use FP includes to include the content in
| > similarly named framed pages
| >
| > The other problem some SE have w/ frames is in linking to the individual
| > pages w/ the site
| > - especially if the pages use any frame "control" scripts
| > (redirecting back to w/i a frameset home page or preventing opening the
| > site pages outside of frames)
| > - of course if they don't, the SE will link to the pages outside of frames
| > and bust your framesets
| >
| > IMHO
| > Use of frames is too problematic for SE and users
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | > | Yes and no - google looks at content (ie the stuff on the page) but also
| > | takes account of the whole site. Let's say I had a framed site (banner
| > left
| > | nav and content) about Ferraris and a content page on the 250 GTO google
| > | would rank that page on the keyword density of 250 GTO but would'nt see
| > | incoming links. A search engine can't see the 3 frames as being the same
| > | page and therefore can't rank the whole site as being a good resource on
| > | Ferraris. I may well win on the phrase "250 gto" but I'd probably lose
| > on
| > | "ferrari 250 gto"
| > |
| > | Not to mention if a user clicks the page in his search results he's
| > going to
| > | get the page on it's own without any banner or navigation.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Cheers,
| > | Jon
| > | Microsoft MVP
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | >> Frames may give problems with search engines
| > | >
| > | > How? Content is content, right?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Murray
| > | > ============
| > | >
| > | > | > | >> Frames may give problems with search engines. Are you saying your
| > | >> ranking went south when you changed to frames? If so how long ago was
| > | >> this? If it was recently (ie last few weeks) it might just be due to
| > | >> constant updating. When you check your rank on google don't go to
| > google
| > | >> to check go here
| > | >>
http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/tools/google-data-centers.php
| > | >> this will check your rank against 17 google data centres - by keeping
| > an
| > | >> eye on these results you should be able to see if you're going up,
| > down
| > | >> or sideways.
| > | >>
| > | >> If you're concerned with SEO I'd never use frames. To remove the
| > frames
| > | >> just go back to the layout you had before
| > | >>
| > | >> --
| > | >> Cheers,
| > | >> Jon
| > | >> Microsoft MVP
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> | > | >>> Apparently search engines aren't fond of frames and my ranking has
| > | >>> dropped
| > | >>> off the charts since I've made this change. How can I remove the
| > | >>> frameset?
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
