How do you combine stationary windows with scrolling windows?

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The Thank You Guy

I know this is the publisher web design section, but I believe what I want to
do has been done on the web before and not particularly in an email
newsletter. I want to send out a newsletter that has a stationary left window
(that contains the newsletter's article headlines and our contact
information) that is linked to the various articles within the newsletter in
the right window. The right window is scrollable. The left window would act
as a "quick jump" to the section my reader is interested in. This is more so
a luxury for my subscriber, than a necessity, but I thought it would be nice
to include. Thank you for your help in advance!
 
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brelade

I think i believe i know what you are after, What you want is straight
forward, but is a little long winded to achieve.

It has to be done in 2 x stages.

1. Design your web page where you wish to include your scrollable area to
only included your header / nav bar and any other info around the edges as
you wish, leaving a blank area in the required place for your scollable area
to fill.

2. Open a completley new seperate Publisher document, then i suggest you cut
& paste the other info from you master page to set the dimensions for your
blank area, then start to place your info for the scrollable area, once you
have finshed delete the info not required from this page that will not be
required in your new scrollable area, i.e your header / nav bar etc, i.e what
you have used to act as a page layout.

I suggest you save both orginal site & your seperate page with only your
scrollable area info to your documents as a normal publisher documents, so
you can make changes later.

3. Next you need to make an obsolute link, this is done by createing folders
on you server to link too, i.e this is where you will place your saved new
scrollable area.

4. To do this i will explain, firstly let me know if you are using XP or
Vista (slightly different ways), but basically you will need a log-on name
and password from your server provider, then create a path via your network
places to your space then add a new folder as you would in my documents, then
save you scrollable area page from your "My Documents" in to that folder,
making sure you remember the names you have given each folder & page for the
code below.

Hopefully you are still with me, what i am trying to say is, that i know of
no other way with Pub to have a scrollable area without combining 2 x
documents, 1 x will be the master 1 x will be your link.

5. Open your "scollable area" page from your documents then RE-SAVE as "file
type" single web page to your server, again i find it easier to save this to
my documents then open my server space then drag it in that way. but many
find following the "save as" path direct to your server easier

6. Next copy & paste this code and then insert into your "main" site by
choosing "insert" from the menu bar then choose HTML Code Fragment .

<IFRAME src=http://www.yoursite.co.uk/foldername/pagename.mht"
width="700" height="800" hspace="0" vspace="0"
frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></IFRAME>

5. You must fill in the links required in the code to link to your folders
on the server, also play around with the width / height in the code to fit
your window, also the beauty of html code fragment you can drag the code
around the page to fit, you will spend a little time using web preview to
make sure all fits OK.

6. Once you either use "web preview" or "publish to web", your scrollable
area will appear in the blank space you have left on the main page
automatically.

To make changes later, simply use the saved pub doc from your documents then
save again, you will see that this doc already exists, do you wish to replace
this "YES", bascially each time you make changes, over ride the updates by
resaving over the top of an existing file.

I have placed a link from my site, (Not the best in the world) still
learning, but you will get my drift on how this is done, you will notice that
i have been lasy and not put my nav bar to the left, but for ease put my nav
links above.

http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk/index_files/Page3116.htm

Hopefully this will help, please get back to me if you have any problems,
but there are others on this forum who are more knowledgeable and equally
helpful on this and other subjects, "David please jump in here if possible".

Cheers
 
D

DavidF

brelade,

You are correct in that the poster wants to use framing, but he also wants
to email the final product. One fundamental problem is that code that is
inserted into a web page publication via the insert html code fragment, does
not survive the conversion to an email message. That means he can't
construct the iframe. Nice try though...

DavidF
 
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DavidF

Brelade is correct in that you are describing a framed website, but I don't
know of anyway you will be able to get that to work via Publisher. You can
try brelade's method, but I have never been able to insert any code via the
insert html code fragment tool in Publisher, to survive the conversion to
email.

In general, I think you need to rethink your design. If indeed you are using
Publisher 2003 or 2007, and plan on sending the newsletter as an email, you
can only send one page. If you have created a nice multipage newsletter for
print, the best way to email it is as an attached pdf file. If you want to
email it as a message, then you will have to redesign the whole thing to fit
on one page, and you will have to abandon many of the print formatting
techniques that are available to you. They simply will not convert to html
well...or at all.

Reference:

Tips and troubleshooting for sending a publication page as an e-mail message
(2003):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP010390591033.aspx?pid=CH062524821033

Create and send e-mail publications by using Publisher 2007:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA102200511033.aspx

Convert a print newsletter for use on the Web (2003):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011030981033.aspx

One approach is to have two different publications...one for print, one for
email. If by email, I would suggest that you start with one of the email
formatted newsletter templates provided by Publisher. Adapt your content to
fit that template, and you might be able to get it to work. I say might,
because if you send it as html, and if the person that gets it has their
email client set up for text only, they won't be able to read it. You do
have the option of sending as an image, but then the file size is very
large, and those people on a dial-up connection will be mad at you for
sending such a big email.

Bottom line, your best bet is to send as PDF. If you have Pub 2007, that is
built in with the PDF add on, and you can even use bookmarks to make it easy
to jump around from page to page. If you have 2003, then download the
freebie www.primopdf.com which will allow you to produce a print version or
an on-line version which is much smaller file size. Unfortunately, you can't
use links or bookmarks with this tool.

Sorry I don't have a better answer, but your only other alternative is to
post the bulk of your newsletter on your website, and send out a small html
formatted email that has links to the content.

DavidF
 

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