How to Upgrade SQL back end of Access linked tables.

S

Simon

Hi,

I have an Access 2003 project with linked tables to SQL 2005 (all working
fine), but want to relink the Access tables to a new SQL 2008 instance. I
think the connection was set up using an odbc dsn but can't see one. So my
questions are:
1) Is there a way to discern if the linked tables are using a dsn or
dsn-less connection to SQL Server?
2) What do I need to change in Access (and how) to point it to the 2008
instance?

(Please bear in mind with any answers that I am from the production dba
world and have limited VB scripting etc knowledge - thanks :))

I'm struggling to find any info on this so any help would be greatly
appreciated.
 
A

Albert D. Kallal

1) Is there a way to discern if the linked tables are using a dsn or
dsn-less connection to SQL Server?

It really don't matter
2) What do I need to change in Access (and how) to point it to the 2008
instance?

You can use the linked table manager

Actually, once the connection is setup, then you can often delete the DSN.

In fact, even if you use the linked table manager, you often wind up with a
DSN less connection. (if you link through the file data source as opposed to
a Machine Data Source, then the resulting string will function without the
original file data source).

You can simply check if you using a DSN in two ways:

Simply look at a current linked table connection string (hover your cursor
over the linked table name in the table view tab. You should see the
connection
info).

Even better, just whack ctrl-g and in the debug window you can
printout the connection string for a table by going:

Type in the following:

? currentdb.TableDefs("dbo_Resmain").Connect

In the above the linked table called dbo_Resmain

The result output is:

ODBC;DSN=zooMachineTest;Description=zoo2 test;UID=Albert;APP=Microsoft
Office 2003;WSID=COMPAQNOTE1;DATABASE=zoo2;Trusted_Connection=Yes

Note how there is a direct reference to the DSN in the above. For a dsn-less
connection, you get:

? currentdb.TableDefs("dbo_Resmain").Connect

ODBC;Description=zoo2 test database4;DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=(local);UID=Albert;APP=Microsoft Office
2003;WSID=COMPAQNOTE1;DATABASE=zoo2;Trusted_Connection=Yes

So, in the DSN connection you will NOT see the specified driver being used
(sql server). In the DSN less connection (2nd example) you see the sql
driver being specified. As mentioned, if you used the linked table manager
and use a file dsn you usually get a DSN less connection anyway (you could
in theory delete the file dsn, and the link would continue to function).

On the other hand, it is MUCH MOOT if your current connection is DSN less or
not, since as Mentioned in both cases the wind of using the built in linked
table manager to create that an action in the first place.

So, to link and get a connection working to sql 2008, simply use the
linked table manager and re-link the tables to the new instance of sql
server.

tools->database utilities->linked table manager.

Furthermore if you are using a DSN less connection, then the developer of
the application MUST HAVE provided a re-link system in the code, else how
could the links have been setup? So, dig up instructions on this was
setup or simply take a look at the startup code in the current
application. You see if any code runs that sets up the table links. In other
if this is a DSN less connection then somebody must have set this up along
the way.

You'll also notice that you have a choice of two types of drivers, you have
SQL server, and you have SQL native. The "native" driver is the new one and
is for 2005 and 2008 (it supports new features like compression and
encrypting
etc). For best compatibility raises, you're probably best to use the
standard "sql server" driver in place of "sql native client".
 
S

Simon

Thanks for your prompt reply Albert. What you said looked really good but
nothing I tried worked. I didn't have linked table manager under
tools>database utilities. I have added it in now but it is always greyed out.

When I hover my cursor over a linked table name in the table view tab
there's no tool-tip connection info.

Running this debug command produces
Run-time error '91':
Object variable or With block variable not set

Do I have a whole bunch of options switched off or something?
 
S

Sylvain Lafontaine

What kind of database file are you using, a MDB or ACCDB database file with
ODBC Linked Tables or an ADP database file? (Look at the file's extension)

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Sylvain Lafontaine, ing.
MVP - Windows Live Platform
Email: sylvain2009 sylvainlafontaine com (fill the blanks, no spam please)
Independent consultant and remote programming for Access and SQL-Server
(French)
 
A

Albert D. Kallal

When I hover my cursor over a linked table name in the table view tab
there's no tool-tip connection info.

If the tool tip don't work, then try the debug example, it will at least
show you the current settings for the linked tables...
 
S

Simon

Hi Sylvain,

the file is .ADP
--
Simon


Sylvain Lafontaine said:
What kind of database file are you using, a MDB or ACCDB database file with
ODBC Linked Tables or an ADP database file? (Look at the file's extension)

--
Sylvain Lafontaine, ing.
MVP - Windows Live Platform
Email: sylvain2009 sylvainlafontaine com (fill the blanks, no spam please)
Independent consultant and remote programming for Access and SQL-Server
(French)
 
S

Sylvain Lafontaine

If the file's extension is ADP then this is where your error is: in an ADP
project, there is no linked table and therefore, you cannot use the linked
tables Manager. (You can have linked views directly on the sql-server but
this is another story.).

With ADP, you directly connect to a SQL-Server and this connection is using
the SQL-Server ADO Provider; so there is no notion of DSN or DSN-Less
because this notion is exclusively associated with either ODBC Providers or
with the special MSDASQL ADO Provider and not with the SQL-Server ADO
Provider or any ADO Provider other than MSDASQL.

Look under File | Connection (for Access 2003 and previous, for A2007, it's
hidden somewhere under the round button) to change the connection.

The official newsgroup for ADP is microsoft.public.access.adp.sqlserver

--
Sylvain Lafontaine, ing.
MVP - Windows Live Platform
Email: sylvain2009 sylvainlafontaine com (fill the blanks, no spam please)
Independent consultant and remote programming for Access and SQL-Server
(French)
 
S

Simon

Fantastic! Thanks ever so much.
--
Simon


Sylvain Lafontaine said:
If the file's extension is ADP then this is where your error is: in an ADP
project, there is no linked table and therefore, you cannot use the linked
tables Manager. (You can have linked views directly on the sql-server but
this is another story.).

With ADP, you directly connect to a SQL-Server and this connection is using
the SQL-Server ADO Provider; so there is no notion of DSN or DSN-Less
because this notion is exclusively associated with either ODBC Providers or
with the special MSDASQL ADO Provider and not with the SQL-Server ADO
Provider or any ADO Provider other than MSDASQL.

Look under File | Connection (for Access 2003 and previous, for A2007, it's
hidden somewhere under the round button) to change the connection.

The official newsgroup for ADP is microsoft.public.access.adp.sqlserver

--
Sylvain Lafontaine, ing.
MVP - Windows Live Platform
Email: sylvain2009 sylvainlafontaine com (fill the blanks, no spam please)
Independent consultant and remote programming for Access and SQL-Server
(French)
 

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