Hyperlink text, and inserting text files

M

mrh

I recently upgraded from FP2000 to 2003, and have questions on 2 features that have apparently changed

- Before, when I inserted a link to another page in my web, the default text that was created at the link was the title of the linked web page. Now it is the actual file name of the page. Is there a place I can change the default back to the page title?

- I often insert text from text files into pages in my web. Before, when I inserted a .txt file, there were two windows that popped up. The first would ask if I wanted HTML, text, or (a few other choices I can't remember) to be inserted. I always chose text. Then it would ask about paragraph formats, line returns and the like. Now it just puts the file in with what USED to be the preselected defaults from those pop ups (although abviously not the options I chose, or I wouldn't have a problem.) Is there a was to change the defaults, or at the very least have it ask me each time

Thanks!
 
J

Jim Buyens

-----Original Message-----
I recently upgraded from FP2000 to 2003, and have
questions on 2 features that have apparently changed:

- Before, when I inserted a link to another page in my
web, the default text that was created at the link was
the title of the linked web page. Now it is the actual
file name of the page. Is there a place I can change
the default back to the page title?

In my experience, if a page has a title, FP2003 will use
that title as the default hyperlink text. It only uses
the file name if the title is missing or blank.

If this is contrary to your experience, please provide
enough details to reproduce the bahavior.
- I often insert text from text files into pages in my
web. Before, when I inserted a .txt file, there were
two windows that popped up. The first would ask if I
wanted HTML, text, or (a few other choices I can't
remember) to be inserted. I always chose text. Then it
would ask about paragraph formats, line returns and the
like. Now it just puts the file in with what USED to be
the preselected defaults from those pop ups (although
abviously not the options I chose, or I wouldn't have a
problem.) Is there a was to change the defaults, or at
the very least have it ask me each time?

What command are you using to insert the text file?

I tried choosing File from the Insert menu.

o If I chose a .txt file that cointained plain text, I
got the Convert Text dialog box:
Convert Text To: One Formatted Paragraph
Formatted Paragraphs
...
o If I chose a .txt file that contained HTML, FP2003
pasted the <body> section of that HTML.

Does that help?

FWIW, I think most designers do this by opening the file
in Notepad or another text editor, then copying and
pasting the text they want.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
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M

MRH

I thought I posted this yesterday, but apparently I didn't

I started this thread on Monday, answered the questions on Tuesday, and haven't gotten a response since then. Can anyone help me? The post is so far back on the list I don't know if anyone sees it anymore. If there is somewhere else I should be going with my questions, please let me know

Thanks
Mar

----- Jim Buyens wrote: ----
-----Original Message----
I recently upgraded from FP2000 to 2003, and hav
questions on 2 features that have apparently changed
web, the default text that was created at the link wa
the title of the linked web page. Now it is the actua
file name of the page. Is there a place I can chang
the default back to the page title?

In my experience, if a page has a title, FP2003 will use
that title as the default hyperlink text. It only uses
the file name if the title is missing or blank

If this is contrary to your experience, please provide
enough details to reproduce the bahavior.

----- start answer 1 ---

I am using pages that have titles. If I click the "insert hyperlink" button without selecting any text first, and then select the page I want to link to, the "Text to Display" box shows the exact same thing as the address box. For example, when I link to this page: http://www.horstauction.com/Sale_bills/sale20040428.htm, the text that appears in the box (and as my hyperlink) is sale20040428.htm. But when I look at the page, the page title "04/28 - Wed - consignment" appears at the top AND in my page banner - so the page title seems to be assigned properly

----- finish answer 1 ----
- I often insert text from text files into pages in m
web. Before, when I inserted a .txt file, there wer
two windows that popped up. The first would ask if
wanted HTML, text, or (a few other choices I can'
remember) to be inserted. I always chose text. Then i
would ask about paragraph formats, line returns and th
like. Now it just puts the file in with what USED to b
the preselected defaults from those pop ups (althoug
abviously not the options I chose, or I wouldn't have
problem.) Is there a was to change the defaults, or a
the very least have it ask me each time

What command are you using to insert the text file

I tried choosing File from the Insert menu

o If I chose a .txt file that cointained plain text,
got the Convert Text dialog box
Convert Text To: One Formatted Paragrap
Formatted Paragraph
..
o If I chose a .txt file that contained HTML, FP200
pasted the <body> section of that HTML

Does that help

FWIW, I think most designers do this by opening the file
in Notepad or another text editor, then copying and
pasting the text they want

----- start answer 2 ---

I'm using the Insert-File, also (little paperclip for an icon.) The files (sale bill text files for the auction) are sent to me by a newspaper, and they are MAC-based, so I do not have an editor that makes them look just right. But even so, I used to get the Convert Text dialog box when I inserted them in FP2000. Now I don't. The newspaper has been MAC since I've been doing this for over 4 years now, so that isn't new. The files have a .txt extension, and I thought that would trigger the Convert Text dialog box. While I can go into Word, open the file using the MS default, and then copy and paste, it's a lot of steps I didn't have to do before. And this is a process I go through quite often, for every single sale bill

----- finish answer 2 ----


Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Unless you change it in Navigation View, FP uses the page Title for the banner text
You have <TITLE>04/28 - Wed - consignment</TITLE>
So that is what it uses
View Navigation and rename it




| I thought I posted this yesterday, but apparently I didn't.
|
| I started this thread on Monday, answered the questions on Tuesday, and haven't gotten a response since then. Can anyone help me?
The post is so far back on the list I don't know if anyone sees it anymore. If there is somewhere else I should be going with my
questions, please let me know.
|
| Thanks,
| Mary
|
| ----- Jim Buyens wrote: -----
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >I recently upgraded from FP2000 to 2003, and have
| >questions on 2 features that have apparently changed:
| >>- Before, when I inserted a link to another page in my
| >web, the default text that was created at the link was
| >the title of the linked web page. Now it is the actual
| >file name of the page. Is there a place I can change
| >the default back to the page title?
|
| In my experience, if a page has a title, FP2003 will use
| that title as the default hyperlink text. It only uses
| the file name if the title is missing or blank.
|
| If this is contrary to your experience, please provide
| enough details to reproduce the bahavior.
|
| ----- start answer 1 ----
|
| I am using pages that have titles. If I click the "insert hyperlink" button without selecting any text first, and then
select the page I want to link to, the "Text to Display" box shows the exact same thing as the address box. For example, when I
link to this page: http://www.horstauction.com/Sale_bills/sale20040428.htm, the text that appears in the box (and as my hyperlink)
is sale20040428.htm. But when I look at the page, the page title "04/28 - Wed - consignment" appears at the top AND in my page
banner - so the page title seems to be assigned properly.
|
| ----- finish answer 1 ----
|
| >- I often insert text from text files into pages in my
| >web. Before, when I inserted a .txt file, there were
| >two windows that popped up. The first would ask if I
| >wanted HTML, text, or (a few other choices I can't
| >remember) to be inserted. I always chose text. Then it
| >would ask about paragraph formats, line returns and the
| >like. Now it just puts the file in with what USED to be
| >the preselected defaults from those pop ups (although
| >abviously not the options I chose, or I wouldn't have a
| >problem.) Is there a was to change the defaults, or at
| >the very least have it ask me each time?
|
| What command are you using to insert the text file?
|
| I tried choosing File from the Insert menu.
|
| o If I chose a .txt file that cointained plain text, I
| got the Convert Text dialog box:
| Convert Text To: One Formatted Paragraph
| Formatted Paragraphs
| ...
| o If I chose a .txt file that contained HTML, FP2003
| pasted the <body> section of that HTML.
|
| Does that help?
|
| FWIW, I think most designers do this by opening the file
| in Notepad or another text editor, then copying and
| pasting the text they want.
|
| ----- start answer 2 ----
|
| I'm using the Insert-File, also (little paperclip for an icon.) The files (sale bill text files for the auction) are sent to
me by a newspaper, and they are MAC-based, so I do not have an editor that makes them look just right. But even so, I used to get
the Convert Text dialog box when I inserted them in FP2000. Now I don't. The newspaper has been MAC since I've been doing this for
over 4 years now, so that isn't new. The files have a .txt extension, and I thought that would trigger the Convert Text dialog box.
While I can go into Word, open the file using the MS default, and then copy and paste, it's a lot of steps I didn't have to do
before. And this is a process I go through quite often, for every single sale bill.
|
| ----- finish answer 2 ----
|
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
 
M

mrh

But that is the title I want! My problem is that when I create a hyperlink to that page, it does NOT use the page title. Rather, it uses the file name. In FP2000, it used the title and that's what I want. My purpose in pointing out that page is that I do have the title assigned correctly, and how can I make the "insert hyperlink" dialong box use that as the default for the hyperlink text? The first answer I got implied that it should, but the page title IS assigned and still is uses the file name

Thanks
Mary
 
K

Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FP]

Instead of using the Insert Hyperlink dialog, try dragging the page from the
folder view to the place on the page where you want the link to appear. It
will use the page title when you do that.
 
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