Hyperlinking in 2007, Once Again

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Rebecca

Early in July (7/3) there was a somewhat rambling discussion about
hyperlinking in 2007, but even after a careful read of all the posts found
therein I am still profoundly confused (and I know for sure that think I am
not the only one struggling with this feature). Also, strangely, the help
file that was supposed to come with the Beta is empty ("unavailable"). Maybe
they are still working on it, or something.

What I am asking the experts in this forum to do is explain step by step and
in easy, coherent English all the various ways hyperlinking can be done in ON
2007. Just saying "select text, press Control K, and paste" is not a big
help (for one thing it doesn't even work that way, at least on the Beta I am
using). And apparently there are a variety of ways to hyperlink in ON 2007,
only one of which I figured out how to achieve (by trial and error).

I realize that the experts are volunteering their time in these forums to
help us, but with all due respect, at times I have the feeling that they are
not trying hard enough to put themselves in the shoes of people who come to
these forums because they can't solve their problems on their own. A good
rule of thumb is to over-explain rather than under-explain, which almost
always results in tedious followup posts ("I couldn't understand clearly what
you advised me to do, so....").
 
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Patrick Schmid

Hi Rebecca,

First off, the OneNote 2007 Beta 2 Guide in the "More Cool Features"
section has a page on Hyperlinks. You should have that guide as one of
your notebooks.

1) Right-click on a paragraph, page, section or notebook you want to
link TO. Select "copy hyperlink to this " paragraph/page/... Then go to
the place where you want to have the hyperlink appear, right-click and
select Paste.
As an example: If you want to include a link to the page titled "Chapter
1" on your page "Table of Contents", you'd right-click on the page tab
for "Chapter 1", select copy hyperlink to this page and then right-click
wherever on the TOC page where you want the hyperlink to appear and
select paste.

2) Use the Insert Hyperlink dialog. You can either get it via the Insert
menu, Hyperlink; press Ctrl-k or add the insert hyperlink button your
toolbar. So for a step-by-step explanation: You'd do the same
right-click copy hyperlink to maneuver as for 1). Then you'd select the
text you want to become the hyperlink on the page you want the hyperlink
to appear. Then open the insert hyperlink dialog. You should see the
text you selected in the "text to display" field. In the address field,
use paste (right-click on the field and select paste, or while your
cursor is in that field press CTRL-V). Then press OK.
Example: Right-click on page tab for "Chapter 1". Go to the TOC page and
select the text you want to be associated with a hyperlink. Bring up the
dialog (e.g. via ctrl-k), then with your cursor in the address field
press ctrl-v, then press OK.

Are these two explanations better?
I realize that the experts are volunteering their time in these forums to
help us, but with all due respect, at times I have the feeling that they are
not trying hard enough to put themselves in the shoes of people who come to
these forums because they can't solve their problems on their own. A good
rule of thumb is to over-explain rather than under-explain, which almost
always results in tedious followup posts ("I couldn't understand clearly what
you advised me to do, so....").
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Quite frankly, I don't have the time to over-explain. I try to guess
what level of explanation a user needs and reply on that level. If I
under-explained something, I rather have a user tell me that and then
sit down and spend the time on a much more thorough explanation. Users
come to these forums because they want something, they want help. I am
completely voluntarily providing help here. Nothing compels me to be
here, nor do I get anything back besides an occasional "thank you".
Hence, I have no problem of putting the burden on users to ask for a
better explanation if they didn't understand it the first time around.
It is a perfectly fine thing for a user to reply that they just didn't
get something, no matter what. I'll take my time then and write a more
detailed explanation. I don't have any problem with that.
I really just don't have the time to write more thorough explanations
for my 20-30 posts daily (I post in a lot of different MS groups).

Patrick Schmid
 
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Rebecca

Thanks Patrick. That was just what the doctor ordered. Now if only the
other experts in these forums would explain things like this there would be
fewer posts, tedious though it may be for the ones doing the detailed
explaining.
 
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srdiamond

Patrick Schmid said:
nor do I get anything back besides an occasional "thank you".
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But this isn't true of MVPs, who receive points toward free or discounted
software in return for their participation, right?

And fess, up, Patrick--an MVP is what you shall soon or at least eventually
become.

Insofar as your participation will help you eventually obtain discounted
software--or more exactly, insofar as you think it will--you are not
performing this work merely for an occasional thank you. There are actual
benefits to be had.

I'm not in the least critical of you or the MVPs on this, except if you
mislead people about your motivation. I think the MVP program was a brilliant
MS idea, and the support given to users is better than support rendered on
contract by other developers And perhaps I should disclose that I was an MVP
(for MS Word for the Mac) many years ago. (If you don't believe me,
understand that the program was a lot less competitive then. <g>) But let's
not come off like you are performing charity for Microsoft! Free
participation doesn't produce much of value, anyway. Isn't that why despite
all the hoopla, Firefox will never approach the quality of IE7?

Stephen Diamond
 
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Patrick Schmid

nor do I get anything back besides an occasional "thank you".
But this isn't true of MVPs, who receive points toward free or discounted
software in return for their participation, right?
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All I know is the following:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvptechres

And fess, up, Patrick--an MVP is what you shall soon or at least eventually
become.
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That remains to be seen.
Insofar as your participation will help you eventually obtain discounted
software--or more exactly, insofar as you think it will--you are not
performing this work merely for an occasional thank you. There are actual
benefits to be had.
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Not really. I already can get all the software benefits listed there
through my university.
I'm not in the least critical of you or the MVPs on this, except if you
mislead people about your motivation. I think the MVP program was a brilliant
MS idea, and the support given to users is better than support rendered on
contract by other developers And perhaps I should disclose that I was an MVP
(for MS Word for the Mac) many years ago. (If you don't believe me,
understand that the program was a lot less competitive then. <g>) But let's
not come off like you are performing charity for Microsoft! Free
participation doesn't produce much of value, anyway. Isn't that why despite
all the hoopla, Firefox will never approach the quality of IE7?
Click to expand...
Several hours a day is really more volunteering than anything based on
incentives.

Patrick Schmid
 
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