Images changed or missing between edits: bizarre!

[Petirrojo]

I'm working in PPT 2002 and over the past month I've noticed a strange
occurrence. I'll work on a file, insert images (photos, prepared artwork,
etc.) located on my hard drive and save the file. The next time I open the
file, some of the images are now completely different images (not a case of
similar file names). In some cases, photos are now artwork.

A) have you seen this before; B) what's causing it?; C) what can be done to
prevent this?

 

[Ute Simon]

I'm working in PPT 2002 and over the past month I've noticed a strange

occurrence. I'll work on a file, insert images (photos, prepared artwork,
etc.) located on my hard drive and save the file. The next time I open the
file, some of the images are now completely different images (not a case of
similar file names). In some cases, photos are now artwork.

A) have you seen this before; B) what's causing it?; C) what can be done to
prevent this?

Did you insert the images using Copy & Paste? Did you compress the file?
Images which are inserted using Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V are behaving strangely
sometimes when you try to compress the presentation. Use Insert - Graphics -
From File instead or Edit - Paste Special.

Best regards,
Ute

 

[Petirrojo]

Thanks, Ute, that may be part of the answer. In some cases I have been
importing files and then copy/pasting to insert them in the image holder
(though not in all cases). For some reason, the insert and fit to frame
option is turned off and I can't locate the way to turn it back on, so I
opted for that solution. I'll try your recommendation.

However, when you say 'compressing the file', are you referring to the image
compression option, or compressing it in another way, such as WinZip? In
either case, I've not done that with this file, so some of the image switches
are unaccounted for.

Is this a bug in the program that's recognized and is there a patch for it,
or has my version become corrupted in some way?

 

[Ute Simon]

However, when you say 'compressing the file', are you referring to the
image

compression option, or compressing it in another way, such as WinZip? In
either case, I've not done that with this file, so some of the image switches
are unaccounted for.

When mentioning compression, I was referring to the image compression in
Format - Graphics. WinZip does not have any influence, as far as I know.

BTW, how large is your file? (MB, not No. of slides) Sometimes problems
arise with very large files - and files do get larger, if you use Copy &
Paste.

Best regards,
Ute

 

[Petirrojo]

Thanks again for trying to figure this one out, however the problem keeps on
occurring.

This file is 6.3 MB, by no means the largest file of its type that I've ever
created (and yes, I understand that copying images creates larger file
sizes), but the problem persists. Every time I save the file (using 'save
as') and reopen it, one image or more is different -- and usually it's
getting swapped with one that's currently in the document! (The original one
is in its place, but now it's also showing up in the spot where another
should be.)

Should I be thinking about uninstalling and reinstalling PPT?

Robin

 

[Echo S]

We've had reports of this type of thing happening in various files, but I
don't know that we've nailed down a cause. Reinstalling PPT isn't going to
solve the issue, though.

One thing is to make sure you've turned off Allow Fast Saves in
Tools|Options|Save.

Also, try "round tripping" your file. It often weeds out the wonkies in PPT
files, and you've definitely got a wonky! See
http://www.powerpointworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm to learn how to
"round trip" your file.

 

[Petirrojo]

Well, you're right about 1 thing: reinstalling PPT doesn't (didn't) help 8^\

I tried the 'round tripping' but I confess to not seeing the benefit of the
exercise: the same images that went AWOL in the PPT went AWOL in the .mht
file too (plus those slides that had text builds looked particularly nasty).
Maybe it's my lack of what comes next. What am I supposed to learn from the
'round trip?' Is there some sort of source code that I could spot in the .mht
file?

I appreciate your encouragement though, and hope to find an answer soon!

We've had reports of this type of thing happening in various files, but I
don't know that we've nailed down a cause. Reinstalling PPT isn't going to
solve the issue, though.

One thing is to make sure you've turned off Allow Fast Saves in
Tools|Options|Save.

Also, try "round tripping" your file. It often weeds out the wonkies in PPT
files, and you've definitely got a wonky! See
http://www.powerpointworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm to learn how to
"round trip" your file.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Thanks again for trying to figure this one out, however the problem keeps
on
occurring.

This file is 6.3 MB, by no means the largest file of its type that I've
ever
created (and yes, I understand that copying images creates larger file
sizes), but the problem persists. Every time I save the file (using 'save
as') and reopen it, one image or more is different -- and usually it's
getting swapped with one that's currently in the document! (The original
one
is in its place, but now it's also showing up in the spot where another
should be.)

Should I be thinking about uninstalling and reinstalling PPT?

Robin

 

[Echo S]

After you do the round-trip, open the HTML file back in PPT and replace the
messed up images with the images that should be there. Then save the file
again. Hopefully the correct images will stay in place.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Well, you're right about 1 thing: reinstalling PPT doesn't (didn't) help
8^\

I tried the 'round tripping' but I confess to not seeing the benefit of
the
exercise: the same images that went AWOL in the PPT went AWOL in the .mht
file too (plus those slides that had text builds looked particularly
nasty).
Maybe it's my lack of what comes next. What am I supposed to learn from
the
'round trip?' Is there some sort of source code that I could spot in the
.mht
file?

I appreciate your encouragement though, and hope to find an answer soon!

We've had reports of this type of thing happening in various files, but I
don't know that we've nailed down a cause. Reinstalling PPT isn't going
to
solve the issue, though.

One thing is to make sure you've turned off Allow Fast Saves in
Tools|Options|Save.

Also, try "round tripping" your file. It often weeds out the wonkies in
PPT
files, and you've definitely got a wonky! See
http://www.powerpointworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm to learn how to
"round trip" your file.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Thanks again for trying to figure this one out, however the problem
keeps
on
occurring.

This file is 6.3 MB, by no means the largest file of its type that I've
ever
created (and yes, I understand that copying images creates larger file
sizes), but the problem persists. Every time I save the file (using
'save
as') and reopen it, one image or more is different -- and usually it's
getting swapped with one that's currently in the document! (The
original
one
is in its place, but now it's also showing up in the spot where another
should be.)

Should I be thinking about uninstalling and reinstalling PPT?

Robin

:

However, when you say 'compressing the file', are you referring to
the
image
compression option, or compressing it in another way, such as
WinZip?
In
either case, I've not done that with this file, so some of the image
switches
are unaccounted for.

When mentioning compression, I was referring to the image compression
in
Format - Graphics. WinZip does not have any influence, as far as I
know.

BTW, how large is your file? (MB, not No. of slides) Sometimes
problems
arise with very large files - and files do get larger, if you use Copy
&
Paste.

Best regards,
Ute

 

[Glen Millar]

Hi,

I had this problem in PowerPoint 2002 which I figured happened with
compression. You could go to Help| Check for updates. I solved it by
upgrading to 2003 which of course is not a valid option in many cases.

--

Regards,

Glen Millar
Microsoft PPT MVP
www.powerpointworkbench.com

Australia

glen at powerpointworkbench dot com

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Well, you're right about 1 thing: reinstalling PPT doesn't (didn't) help
8^\

I tried the 'round tripping' but I confess to not seeing the benefit of
the
exercise: the same images that went AWOL in the PPT went AWOL in the .mht
file too (plus those slides that had text builds looked particularly
nasty).
Maybe it's my lack of what comes next. What am I supposed to learn from
the
'round trip?' Is there some sort of source code that I could spot in the
.mht
file?

I appreciate your encouragement though, and hope to find an answer soon!

We've had reports of this type of thing happening in various files, but I
don't know that we've nailed down a cause. Reinstalling PPT isn't going
to
solve the issue, though.

One thing is to make sure you've turned off Allow Fast Saves in
Tools|Options|Save.

Also, try "round tripping" your file. It often weeds out the wonkies in
PPT
files, and you've definitely got a wonky! See
http://www.powerpointworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm to learn how to
"round trip" your file.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Thanks again for trying to figure this one out, however the problem
keeps
on
occurring.

This file is 6.3 MB, by no means the largest file of its type that I've
ever
created (and yes, I understand that copying images creates larger file
sizes), but the problem persists. Every time I save the file (using
'save
as') and reopen it, one image or more is different -- and usually it's
getting swapped with one that's currently in the document! (The
original
one
is in its place, but now it's also showing up in the spot where another
should be.)

Should I be thinking about uninstalling and reinstalling PPT?

Robin

:

However, when you say 'compressing the file', are you referring to
the
image
compression option, or compressing it in another way, such as
WinZip?
In
either case, I've not done that with this file, so some of the image
switches
are unaccounted for.

When mentioning compression, I was referring to the image compression
in
Format - Graphics. WinZip does not have any influence, as far as I
know.

BTW, how large is your file? (MB, not No. of slides) Sometimes
problems
arise with very large files - and files do get larger, if you use Copy
&
Paste.

Best regards,
Ute