Import iWork Pages 'Page Layout' into Word 'Publishing Layout'


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PeterRHawkes

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Processor: Intel I have several publications produced in iWork Pages using Pages Layout. As a new convert to Office 2008 I need to get these publications into Word Publishing Layout so they can be updated and published.

I can save the Pages version as a Word Document but then it appears as a basic word document without the ability to use the tools in Publishing Layout.

Is there a simple way to 'import' the document into Word Publishing Layout? Have I missed a simple step!?

Peter R Hawkes
 
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CyberTaz

I'm going on instinct here because I've never attempted what you're trying
to do, so this isn't gospel :) But just based on general information...

The 2 programs use completely different file structures, which is why you
have to Save As in Word format from Pages in the first place. As yet, Word
has not been supplied with filters for the .pages file format. (All file
types Word can use are built into the Open dialog - there is no "Import"
command in the program.) Combine with that the fact that the 2 programs go
about things in differently designed manners, I'm guessing that what you
want to do cannot be done in any way other than how you're going about it.

What happens if you use Word to open the Word document generated by Pages
then switch to Pub Layout View?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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John McGhie

I think Bob is correct.

Each program has a different way of pretending that a collection of computer
information is a piece of paper with text laid out in a way that is
meaningful to human beings.

All programs do this, and they nearly all do it differently.

Pages is more like a "Desktop Publisher" than a "Word Processor". So, for
example, it is built around a concept of "positioning objects on a grid".

Word is a "Word Processor". It's built around the concept of "stacking
objects one on top of the other in empty space."

It's like the difference between a ship and an aircraft: they are both forms
of transport, and there are some similarities. But not many.

Microsoft Word has to do some things that are very unnatural to it to
produce its publishing layout. It's unlikely to succeed with a document
built in a completely different manner using pages.

Publishing Layout is a very specific use of Section Breaks, Headers,
Footers, Linked Text Boxes, and Columns. To use it, you would need to
create these objects in your imported file. They won't import (and, as you
will discover, they won't export, either!).

Best to stick to normal documents in Word.

Hope this helps

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Processor: Intel
I have several publications produced in iWork Pages using Pages Layout. As a
new convert to Office 2008 I need to get these publications into Word
Publishing Layout so they can be updated and published.

I can save the Pages version as a Word Document but then it appears as a basic
word document without the ability to use the tools in Publishing Layout.

Is there a simple way to 'import' the document into Word Publishing Layout?
Have I missed a simple step!?

Peter R Hawkes

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matters unless you intend to pay!
 
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PeterRHawkes

Thank you Bob & John.

I can save my Pages publication as a Doc file, open in Word and then View in Publishing Layout.
 
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John McGhie

Hi Peter:

Yes, you can. And from there, if you build the objects in the document that
turn it into a Pub Layout document, it will actually become a pub layout
document.

However, if you are intending to produce a lot of graphics-rich
layout-intensive documents, such as newsletters and magazines, you need to
look at additional software.

Word is good at "words", but when it comes to laying those words out on the
page, at some point you may need to consider adding to the toolkit.

I produced documents in the range 1,000 to 5,000 pages, and I tend to take
them direct to press from Word. But many of the documents I am working on
are never printed on paper!

For me, the dividing line is "more than one picture on a page" or
"publishing to the web". Once either of those requirements enters your
workflow, you need more software.

The industry standard is, of course, Adobe's CS4. That's $2,500, but if you
are in the business, professional tools are easily worth the cost to buy and
the time to learn.

On the other hand, if your only interest is the club newsletter, and you
don't have another lifetime to learn complex software, Pages is a great
start.

For something a little more complex, look at PageMaker. Full publishing
capability comes with QuarkExpress. For the high end, Adobe CS4.

See here:
http://desktoppub.about.com/od/softwarehardware/tp/Mac_Pro_Desktop_Publishin
g.htm

Hope this helps


Thank you Bob & John.

I can save my Pages publication as a Doc file, open in Word and then View in
Publishing Layout.

This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!
 
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CyberTaz

Geesh... Don't scare the poor guy off John. He doesn't necessarily need the
full Adobe CS4 *Suite* for god's sake. List on InDesign is only [?] US$699.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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John McGhie

Oh good: I'll take two! :)

People need to know where the top end is. One of the reasons I posted that
figure is that it would help some in here to understand what a bargain
Microsoft Office actually is; if people realised that a graphics
professional or print publishing professional probably runs at least $5,000
worth of a software on a workstation costing around $20,000.

Office enables you to do almost everything they can (with some ingenuity!)
for $150 on an iMac :)

Cheers

Geesh... Don't scare the poor guy off John. He doesn't necessarily need the
full Adobe CS4 *Suite* for god's sake. List on InDesign is only [?] US$699.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



Hi Peter:

Yes, you can. And from there, if you build the objects in the document that
turn it into a Pub Layout document, it will actually become a pub layout
document.

However, if you are intending to produce a lot of graphics-rich
layout-intensive documents, such as newsletters and magazines, you need to
look at additional software.

Word is good at "words", but when it comes to laying those words out on the
page, at some point you may need to consider adding to the toolkit.

I produced documents in the range 1,000 to 5,000 pages, and I tend to take
them direct to press from Word. But many of the documents I am working on
are never printed on paper!

For me, the dividing line is "more than one picture on a page" or
"publishing to the web". Once either of those requirements enters your
workflow, you need more software.

The industry standard is, of course, Adobe's CS4. That's $2,500, but if you
are in the business, professional tools are easily worth the cost to buy and
the time to learn.

On the other hand, if your only interest is the club newsletter, and you
don't have another lifetime to learn complex software, Pages is a great
start.

For something a little more complex, look at PageMaker. Full publishing
capability comes with QuarkExpress. For the high end, Adobe CS4.

See here:
http://desktoppub.about.com/od/softwarehardware/tp/Mac_Pro_Desktop_Publishin
g.htm

Hope this helps




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