Include A Newsreader In Outlook 2007

[Sam]

This is something which the free MS email programs (Outlook Express, Windows
Mail, Windows Live Mail) all have built-in, and yet MS fails to include one
in its PAID mail programs.
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[Gordon]

This is something which the free MS email programs (Outlook Express,
Windows
Mail, Windows Live Mail) all have built-in, and yet MS fails to include
one
in its PAID mail programs.

Because - the huge majority of installations of Outlook are in BUSINESSES
where employees do NOT, and in most organisations are not allowed to, use a
news reader.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Haven't been paying attention, have you? This is a long dead issue. This is
by design. Most Outlook users do not want their email and PIM program to
read news too. There are plenty of free news reader you can use for that
purpose.

 

[VanguardLH]

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This is something which the free MS email programs (Outlook Express, Windows
Mail, Windows Live Mail) all have built-in, and yet MS fails to include one
in its PAID mail programs.

Outlook is part of MS Office, a suite of utilities geared to the
business or corporate environment, not for personal or non-enterprise
use. Few companies operate their own NNTP servers. Few companies want
their users spending time in newsgroups. Many block NNTP accesss to
outside hosts trying to get their employees to do work instead of play
at work. Some newsgroups are useful for work but that is not the
typical of use newsgroups at work. Companies are not clamoring for NNTP
support to be added to Outlook. They don't want it. Sales to home or
end users is picyune compared to corporate sales, so they are listening
to the wants of their major customers, the ones that generate the vast
majority of their revenue.

Outlook is oriented towards business use.
Outlook EXPRESS and Windows [Live] Mail are oriented towards personal
use.

Unless one or more mega-corporations clamor for NNTP support, it will
not happen in Outlook. Single-license end users are unimportant to the
design of corporate-level software. Outlook already provides a means to
call Outlook EXPRESS (or whatever is designated as the default
newsgroups client) so what's the problem? It is rather clumsy to be
loading Outlook to only go load Outlook EXPRESS when you could've just
started by loading Outlook Express itself (or whatever NNTP client you
want to use).

If you really feel an unsubstantiated need to have newsgroups available
within Outlook, you can pay for 3rd party plug-ins to do that, like
Newshound (http://shorelinesoftware.com/, $30). But that still means
NNTP is not supported by Outlook. The plug-in is providing that
support.

 

[F.H. Muffman]

Outlook is part of MS Office, a suite of utilities geared to the
business or corporate environment, not for personal or non-enterprise
use.

While I agree that Outlook, in the end, shouldn't have NNTP functionality
built into it[1], this is a false line of reasoning.

For example:

Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition *isn't* geared for the business
or corporate environment.

But wait FH, you say, Home and Student doesn't come with Outlook! I stand
victorious over your faulty reasoning!

Not quite.

Consider Office 2007 Standard. It comes with Outlook.

And it's geared for the home user.

"Office Standard 2007
Providing homes and small businesses with the software essentials they need
to get tasks done quickly and easily."
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/suites/FX101674071033.aspx"


[1] Although with Public Folders, and obviously NNTP with it, are going
away in Exchange v.next, one must wonder what the excuse will be, since once
excuse was that the server itself could handle NNTP conversation, there's
no reason to abuse the Internet pipe with multiple clients requesting the
same data.

 

[VanguardLH]

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Outlook is part of MS Office, a suite of utilities geared to the
business or corporate environment, not for personal or non-enterprise
use.

While I agree that Outlook, in the end, shouldn't have NNTP functionality
built into it[1], this is a false line of reasoning.

For example:

Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition *isn't* geared for the business
or corporate environment.

But wait FH, you say, Home and Student doesn't come with Outlook! I stand
victorious over your faulty reasoning!

Not quite.

Consider Office 2007 Standard. It comes with Outlook.

And it's geared for the home user.

"Office Standard 2007
Providing homes and small businesses with the software essentials they need
to get tasks done quickly and easily."
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/suites/FX101674071033.aspx"

Actually I think that was the Marketing folks getting out of control.
I'm sure they're intent on selling into whatever market generates any
revenue, large or small, as long as the result is a net gain in sales
over cost. It does seem as of version 2007 of Office along with Windows
Vista that Microsoft seems to have decided to slice and dice their
products into so many varied versions that no one quite know what the
hell is their direction anymore.

However, the Standard version still has a plethora of enterprise
functionality that the home user couldn't even touch. Or did Microsoft
slice out all those enterprise-level features in the Standard version?
I'm sure a monster truck could also be used for duck hunting and go to
the grocery store and you could use a bobcat for tilling your veggie
garden. If there were a consumer market that would buy monster trucks
for daily transportation or a consumer market to sell bobcats for
gardening then they'd probably not refuse to sell them in those markets.
But the bobcat manufacturer really isn't going to redesign his bobcat
because he managed to snag a low-end market for which his product really
wasn't designed.

 

[Diane Poremsky {MVP}]

As an FYI, the next version of exchange will have public folders.



** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **

 

[F.H. Muffman]

[1] Although with Public Folders, and obviously NNTP with it, are

As an FYI, the next version of exchange will have public folders.

I could have sworn it was v.next. v.nextnext? Or is this the same but opposite
of a feature that will be added Real Soon Now? =)

 

[Diane Poremsky {MVP}]

Back in April it was announced that public folders will be in the next
"major version". No idea what a minor version is - maybe it's the Real Soon
Now version.
http://www.slipstick.com/emo/2008/up080410.htm





** Please include your Outlook version, Account type, and Windows Version
when requesting assistance **

[1] Although with Public Folders, and obviously NNTP with it, are
going away in Exchange v.next, one must wonder what the excuse will
be, since once excuse was that the server itself could handle NNTP
conversation, there's no reason to abuse the Internet pipe with
multiple clients requesting the same data.

As an FYI, the next version of exchange will have public folders.

I could have sworn it was v.next. v.nextnext? Or is this the same but
opposite of a feature that will be added Real Soon Now? =) --
-f.h.

 

[Jan Kuipers]

There already is an Outlook Newsreader.

Look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/outlookvsoe.mspx and
you can read:

Tip: You don't have to install Outlook to see what the Outlook Newsreader
looks like.

1.
Make sure Outlook Express is closed.

2.
Click Start, and then click Run.

3.
In the Open box, type msimn /outnews.

4.
Click OK.








It is in fact Outlook Express but now it's called Outlook Newsreader. And
at:
http://www.howto-outlook.com/downloads
you can download a reg-file that sets Outlook as the default newsreader. It
also works with Outlook 2007.
Or make a new shortcut and put "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe"
/outnews in it.

Jan