Increasing problems with FrontPage.

K

Kes

For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising with many
of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems with my
internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have) prompted this
reply:
Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or patching
the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer guarantee
that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a security
patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do is get
away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are barely
supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at this time.
If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no work around
found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on this
product.

THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a number of
years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver, coffecup
etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation. Having said
that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage related
problems cropping up.



Kesdavies
www.costadelsolcommunity.com
 
R

Ronx

In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still supported
by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more years
until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by RTR
(www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.

If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any *server*
problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and Windows
updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected it in
any way.
 
K

Kes

Steve - Thank you for the information. I didn't really want to change
programs as I am "comfy" using FrontPage. Thanks again.
 
K

Kes

Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about "problems
being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I think
that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
Regards.
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for server
extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There are
several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering extensions
even though they are out of support for some systems.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about "problems
: being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I
think
: that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: Regards.
: --
: Kesdavies
: www.costadelsolcommunity.com
:
:
: "Ronx" wrote:
:
: > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
supported
: > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more
years
: > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by RTR
: > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: >
: > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any *server*
: > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
: > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and Windows
: > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected it
in
: > any way.
: > --
: > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: >
: > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising
with
: > > many
: > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems
with
: > > my
: > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have) prompted
: > > this
: > > reply:
: > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or
patching
: > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer
: > > guarantee
: > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a
: > > security
: > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do is
get
: > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are
barely
: > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at this
: > > time.
: > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no work
: > > around
: > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on
this
: > > product.
: > >
: > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a number
of
: > > years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver,
coffecup
: > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation. Having
said
: > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage
related
: > > problems cropping up.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Kesdavies
: > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: >
: >
: >
 
S

saintkelley

what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I have
been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9 years.
Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which has
moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve anything.

I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps Godaddy?),
so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.

Thanks!
Kelley

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for server
extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There are
several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering extensions
even though they are out of support for some systems.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about "problems
: being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I
think
: that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: Regards.
: --
: Kesdavies
: www.costadelsolcommunity.com
:
:
: "Ronx" wrote:
:
: > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
supported
: > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more
years
: > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by RTR
: > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: >
: > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any *server*
: > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
: > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and Windows
: > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected it
in
: > any way.
: > --
: > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: >
: > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising
with
: > > many
: > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems
with
: > > my
: > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have) prompted
: > > this
: > > reply:
: > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or
patching
: > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer
: > > guarantee
: > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a
: > > security
: > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do is
get
: > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are
barely
: > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at this
: > > time.
: > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no work
: > > around
: > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on
this
: > > product.
: > >
: > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a number
of
: > > years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver,
coffecup
: > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation. Having
said
: > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage
related
: > > problems cropping up.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Kesdavies
: > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: >
: >
: >
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for years, but have
decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly recommended to
me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and the service
is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is fast, fast,
fast.

www.crystaltech.com

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I have
: been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9
years.
: Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which has
: moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve
anything.
:
: I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
Godaddy?),
: so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
:
: Thanks!
: Kelley
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for server
: > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There are
: > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering
extensions
: > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about
"problems
: > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I
: > think
: > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : Regards.
: > : --
: > : Kesdavies
: > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > :
: > :
: > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > :
: > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
: > supported
: > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more
: > years
: > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by
RTR
: > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : >
: > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any
*server*
: > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
: > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and
Windows
: > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected
it
: > in
: > : > any way.
: > : > --
: > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : >
: > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising
: > with
: > : > > many
: > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems
: > with
: > : > > my
: > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have)
prompted
: > : > > this
: > : > > reply:
: > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or
: > patching
: > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer
: > : > > guarantee
: > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a
: > : > > security
: > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do
is
: > get
: > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are
: > barely
: > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at
this
: > : > > time.
: > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no
work
: > : > > around
: > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on
: > this
: > : > > product.
: > : > >
: > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a
number
: > of
: > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver,
: > coffecup
: > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation.
Having
: > said
: > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage
: > related
: > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
R

Ronx

I have used Webhost4life ( http://www.webhost4life.com ) for 5 years
without problems. Many users have problems hosting with GoDaddy - avoid
GoDaddy for web hosting, especially when FrontPage extensions are involved.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

saintkelley said:
what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I
have
been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9
years.
Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which
has
moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve
anything.

I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
Godaddy?),
so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.

Thanks!
Kelley

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for server
extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There are
several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering
extensions
even though they are out of support for some systems.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about
"problems
: being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I
think
: that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: Regards.
: --
: Kesdavies
: www.costadelsolcommunity.com
:
:
: "Ronx" wrote:
:
: > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
supported
: > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more
years
: > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by
RTR
: > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: >
: > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any
*server*
: > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
: > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and
Windows
: > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected
it
in
: > any way.
: > --
: > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: >
: > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising
with
: > > many
: > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems
with
: > > my
: > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have)
prompted
: > > this
: > > reply:
: > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or
patching
: > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer
: > > guarantee
: > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a
: > > security
: > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do
is
get
: > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are
barely
: > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at
this
: > > time.
: > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no
work
: > > around
: > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on
this
: > > product.
: > >
: > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a
number
of
: > > years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver,
coffecup
: > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation.
Having
said
: > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage
related
: > > problems cropping up.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Kesdavies
: > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: >
: >
: >
 
S

saintkelley

I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is their
pricing?

One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I can't
stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it drives me
crazy trying to explain something to them!!!

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for years, but have
decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly recommended to
me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and the service
is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is fast, fast,
fast.

www.crystaltech.com

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I have
: been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9
years.
: Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which has
: moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve
anything.
:
: I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
Godaddy?),
: so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
:
: Thanks!
: Kelley
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for server
: > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There are
: > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering
extensions
: > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about
"problems
: > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I
: > think
: > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : Regards.
: > : --
: > : Kesdavies
: > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > :
: > :
: > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > :
: > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
: > supported
: > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more
: > years
: > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by
RTR
: > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : >
: > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any
*server*
: > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
: > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and
Windows
: > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected
it
: > in
: > : > any way.
: > : > --
: > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : >
: > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising
: > with
: > : > > many
: > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems
: > with
: > : > > my
: > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have)
prompted
: > : > > this
: > : > > reply:
: > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or
: > patching
: > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer
: > : > > guarantee
: > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a
: > : > > security
: > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do
is
: > get
: > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are
: > barely
: > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at
this
: > : > > time.
: > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no
work
: > : > > around
: > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on
: > this
: > : > > product.
: > : > >
: > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a
number
: > of
: > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver,
: > coffecup
: > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation.
Having
: > said
: > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage
: > related
: > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

They're located in Arizona. All information, including pricing, can be found
on their website.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
:I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is their
: pricing?
:
: One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I can't
: stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it drives
me
: crazy trying to explain something to them!!!
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for years, but
have
: > decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly
recommended to
: > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and the
service
: > is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is fast,
fast,
: > fast.
: >
: > www.crystaltech.com
: >
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I
have
: > : been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9
: > years.
: > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which
has
: > : moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve
: > anything.
: > :
: > : I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
: > Godaddy?),
: > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
: > :
: > : Thanks!
: > : Kelley
: > :
: > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > :
: > : > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for
server
: > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There
are
: > : > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering
: > extensions
: > : > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > : > --
: > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > ---------------------------
: > : > : > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about
: > "problems
: > : > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" -
well I
: > : > think
: > : > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : > : Regards.
: > : > : --
: > : > : Kesdavies
: > : > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
: > : > supported
: > : > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2
more
: > : > years
: > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are
supported by
: > RTR
: > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any
: > *server*
: > : > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
host.
: > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and
: > Windows
: > : > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not
affected
: > it
: > : > in
: > : > : > any way.
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems
arising
: > : > with
: > : > : > > many
: > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to
problems
: > : > with
: > : > : > > my
: > : > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have)
: > prompted
: > : > : > > this
: > : > : > > reply:
: > : > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading
or
: > : > patching
: > : > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no
longer
: > : > : > > guarantee
: > : > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that
eventually a
: > : > : > > security
: > : > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need
to do
: > is
: > : > get
: > : > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we
are
: > : > barely
: > : > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions
at
: > this
: > : > : > > time.
: > : > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is
no
: > work
: > : > : > > around
: > : > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who
relies on
: > : > this
: > : > : > > product.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite
a
: > number
: > : > of
: > : > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs
Dreamweaver,
: > : > coffecup
: > : > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation.
: > Having
: > : > said
: > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these
FrontPage
: > : > related
: > : > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
R

Rick Sparks

I've got a couple sites at everity.com and can't say enough good about them.
Great host.

Other sites that I was very interested in were:
cyberland.com
kionic.com
nitrozone.com

All are planning to continue FP Extensions for quite a while... and have
good reviews (a key criteria, I think)

I hope this helps!


saintkelley said:
what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I have
been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9 years.
Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which has
moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve anything.

I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps Godaddy?),
so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.

Thanks!
Kelley

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for server
extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There are
several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering extensions
even though they are out of support for some systems.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about "problems
: being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - well I
think
: that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: Regards.
: --
: Kesdavies
: www.costadelsolcommunity.com
:
:
: "Ronx" wrote:
:
: > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
supported
: > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2 more
years
: > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are supported by RTR
: > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: >
: > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any *server*
: > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host.
: > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and Windows
: > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not affected it
in
: > any way.
: > --
: > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: >
: > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems arising
with
: > > many
: > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to problems
with
: > > my
: > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have) prompted
: > > this
: > > reply:
: > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading or
patching
: > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no longer
: > > guarantee
: > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that eventually a
: > > security
: > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need to do is
get
: > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we are
barely
: > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions at this
: > > time.
: > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is no work
: > > around
: > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who relies on
this
: > > product.
: > >
: > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite a number
of
: > > years and on checking out some alternative programs Dreamweaver,
coffecup
: > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation. Having
said
: > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these FrontPage
related
: > > problems cropping up.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Kesdavies
: > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: >
: >
: >
 
S

saintkelley

Tom,

Thank you for your crystal tech rec.

I transferred 3 domains to them today and I was extremely impressed.

Thanks again,
Kelley
www.yourmarketingneedshelp.com

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
They're located in Arizona. All information, including pricing, can be found
on their website.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
:I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is their
: pricing?
:
: One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I can't
: stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it drives
me
: crazy trying to explain something to them!!!
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for years, but
have
: > decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly
recommended to
: > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and the
service
: > is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is fast,
fast,
: > fast.
: >
: > www.crystaltech.com
: >
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting? I
have
: > : been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the last 9
: > years.
: > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service which
has
: > : moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to solve
: > anything.
: > :
: > : I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
: > Godaddy?),
: > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
: > :
: > : Thanks!
: > : Kelley
: > :
: > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > :
: > : > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for
server
: > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. There
are
: > : > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be offering
: > extensions
: > : > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > : > --
: > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > ---------------------------
: > : > : > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment about
: > "problems
: > : > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" -
well I
: > : > think
: > : > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : > : Regards.
: > : > : --
: > : > : Kesdavies
: > : > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are still
: > : > supported
: > : > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at least 2
more
: > : > years
: > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are
supported by
: > RTR
: > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then any
: > *server*
: > : > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
host.
: > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years, and
: > Windows
: > : > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not
affected
: > it
: > : > in
: > : > : > any way.
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems
arising
: > : > with
: > : > : > > many
: > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to
problems
: > : > with
: > : > : > > my
: > : > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still have)
: > prompted
: > : > : > > this
: > : > : > > reply:
: > : > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased upgrading
or
: > : > patching
: > : > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can no
longer
: > : > : > > guarantee
: > : > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that
eventually a
: > : > : > > security
: > : > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really need
to do
: > is
: > : > get
: > : > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that we
are
: > : > barely
: > : > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the extensions
at
: > this
: > : > : > > time.
: > : > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and there is
no
: > work
: > : > : > > around
: > : > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who
relies on
: > : > this
: > : > : > > product.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for quite
a
: > number
: > : > of
: > : > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs
Dreamweaver,
: > : > coffecup
: > : > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major operation.
: > Having
: > : > said
: > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these
FrontPage
: > : > related
: > : > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

I made up my mind based on their fast tech and sales response to questions,
all normally within 30 minutes.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Tom,
:
: Thank you for your crystal tech rec.
:
: I transferred 3 domains to them today and I was extremely impressed.
:
: Thanks again,
: Kelley
: www.yourmarketingneedshelp.com
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > They're located in Arizona. All information, including pricing, can be
found
: > on their website.
: >
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > :I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is their
: > : pricing?
: > :
: > : One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I
can't
: > : stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it
drives
: > me
: > : crazy trying to explain something to them!!!
: > :
: > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > :
: > : > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for years,
but
: > have
: > : > decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly
: > recommended to
: > : > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and the
: > service
: > : > is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is fast,
: > fast,
: > : > fast.
: > : >
: > : > www.crystaltech.com
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > ---------------------------
message
: > : > : > : > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting?
I
: > have
: > : > : been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the
last 9
: > : > years.
: > : > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service
which
: > has
: > : > : moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to
solve
: > : > anything.
: > : > :
: > : > : I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
: > : > Godaddy?),
: > : > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
: > : > :
: > : > : Thanks!
: > : > : Kelley
: > : > :
: > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for
: > server
: > : > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will.
There
: > are
: > : > : > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be
offering
: > : > extensions
: > : > : > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > ---------------------------
: > : > : > : > : > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment
about
: > : > "problems
: > : > : > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" -
: > well I
: > : > : > think
: > : > : > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : > : > : Regards.
: > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : Kesdavies
: > : > : > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are
still
: > : > : > supported
: > : > : > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at
least 2
: > more
: > : > : > years
: > : > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are
: > supported by
: > : > RTR
: > : > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then
any
: > : > *server*
: > : > : > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
: > host.
: > : > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years,
and
: > : > Windows
: > : > : > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not
: > affected
: > : > it
: > : > : > in
: > : > : > : > any way.
: > : > : > : > --
: > : > : > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > : > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > : > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems
: > arising
: > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > > many
: > : > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to
: > problems
: > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > > my
: > : > : > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still
have)
: > : > prompted
: > : > : > : > > this
: > : > : > : > > reply:
: > : > : > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased
upgrading
: > or
: > : > : > patching
: > : > : > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can
no
: > longer
: > : > : > : > > guarantee
: > : > : > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that
: > eventually a
: > : > : > : > > security
: > : > : > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really
need
: > to do
: > : > is
: > : > : > get
: > : > : > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that
we
: > are
: > : > : > barely
: > : > : > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the
extensions
: > at
: > : > this
: > : > : > : > > time.
: > : > : > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and
there is
: > no
: > : > work
: > : > : > : > > around
: > : > : > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who
: > relies on
: > : > : > this
: > : > : > : > > product.
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for
quite
: > a
: > : > number
: > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs
: > Dreamweaver,
: > : > : > coffecup
: > : > : > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major
operation.
: > : > Having
: > : > : > said
: > : > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these
: > FrontPage
: > : > : > related
: > : > : > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
S

saintkelley

Tom,

Do you know a "security-image-verification" form program that you recommend
that integrates well with FP2003?

I have always used the FP forms, but the amount of spam i get seems worse
and worse.

If its easier, my email is guru at yourmarketingneedshelp . com

Thanks!
Kelley

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
I made up my mind based on their fast tech and sales response to questions,
all normally within 30 minutes.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Tom,
:
: Thank you for your crystal tech rec.
:
: I transferred 3 domains to them today and I was extremely impressed.
:
: Thanks again,
: Kelley
: www.yourmarketingneedshelp.com
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > They're located in Arizona. All information, including pricing, can be
found
: > on their website.
: >
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > :I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is their
: > : pricing?
: > :
: > : One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I
can't
: > : stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it
drives
: > me
: > : crazy trying to explain something to them!!!
: > :
: > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > :
: > : > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for years,
but
: > have
: > : > decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly
: > recommended to
: > : > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and the
: > service
: > : > is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is fast,
: > fast,
: > : > fast.
: > : >
: > : > www.crystaltech.com
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > ---------------------------
message
: > : > : > : > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage hosting?
I
: > have
: > : > : been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for the
last 9
: > : > years.
: > : > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech service
which
: > has
: > : > : moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to
solve
: > : > anything.
: > : > :
: > : > : I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps
: > : > Godaddy?),
: > : > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
: > : > :
: > : > : Thanks!
: > : > : Kelley
: > : > :
: > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for
: > server
: > : > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or will.
There
: > are
: > : > : > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be
offering
: > : > extensions
: > : > : > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > ---------------------------
: > : > : > : > : > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment
about
: > : > "problems
: > : > : > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" -
: > well I
: > : > : > think
: > : > : > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : > : > : Regards.
: > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : Kesdavies
: > : > : > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are
still
: > : > : > supported
: > : > : > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at
least 2
: > more
: > : > : > years
: > : > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are
: > supported by
: > : > RTR
: > : > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server, then
any
: > : > *server*
: > : > : > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
: > host.
: > : > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several years,
and
: > : > Windows
: > : > : > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not
: > affected
: > : > it
: > : > : > in
: > : > : > : > any way.
: > : > : > : > --
: > : > : > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > : > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > : > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous problems
: > arising
: > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > > many
: > : > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing to
: > problems
: > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > > my
: > : > : > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still
have)
: > : > prompted
: > : > : > : > > this
: > : > : > : > > reply:
: > : > : > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased
upgrading
: > or
: > : > : > patching
: > : > : > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can
no
: > longer
: > : > : > : > > guarantee
: > : > : > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that
: > eventually a
: > : > : > : > > security
: > : > : > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you really
need
: > to do
: > : > is
: > : > : > get
: > : > : > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that
we
: > are
: > : > : > barely
: > : > : > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the
extensions
: > at
: > : > this
: > : > : > : > > time.
: > : > : > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and
there is
: > no
: > : > work
: > : > : > : > > around
: > : > : > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who
: > relies on
: > : > : > this
: > : > : > : > > product.
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for
quite
: > a
: > : > number
: > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs
: > Dreamweaver,
: > : > : > coffecup
: > : > : > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major
operation.
: > : > Having
: > : > : > said
: > : > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these
: > FrontPage
: > : > : > related
: > : > : > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

You need to start your own thread with it's specific subject instead of
hijacking someone else's unrelated thread.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Tom,
:
: Do you know a "security-image-verification" form program that you
recommend
: that integrates well with FP2003?
:
: I have always used the FP forms, but the amount of spam i get seems worse
: and worse.
:
: If its easier, my email is guru at yourmarketingneedshelp . com
:
: Thanks!
: Kelley
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > I made up my mind based on their fast tech and sales response to
questions,
: > all normally within 30 minutes.
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > : Tom,
: > :
: > : Thank you for your crystal tech rec.
: > :
: > : I transferred 3 domains to them today and I was extremely impressed.
: > :
: > : Thanks again,
: > : Kelley
: > : www.yourmarketingneedshelp.com
: > :
: > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > :
: > : > They're located in Arizona. All information, including pricing, can
be
: > found
: > : > on their website.
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > ---------------------------
message
: > : > : > : > :I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is
their
: > : > : pricing?
: > : > :
: > : > : One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I
: > can't
: > : > : stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it
: > drives
: > : > me
: > : > : crazy trying to explain something to them!!!
: > : > :
: > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for
years,
: > but
: > : > have
: > : > : > decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly
: > : > recommended to
: > : > : > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and
the
: > : > service
: > : > : > is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is
fast,
: > : > fast,
: > : > : > fast.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > www.crystaltech.com
: > : > : >
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > ---------------------------
: > message
: > : > : > : > : > : > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage
hosting?
: > I
: > : > have
: > : > : > : been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for
the
: > last 9
: > : > : > years.
: > : > : > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech
service
: > which
: > : > has
: > : > : > : moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to
: > solve
: > : > : > anything.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else
(perhaps
: > : > : > Godaddy?),
: > : > : > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Thanks!
: > : > : > : Kelley
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support
for
: > : > server
: > : > : > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or
will.
: > There
: > : > are
: > : > : > : > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be
: > offering
: > : > : > extensions
: > : > : > : > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > : > : > : > --
: > : > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > : > ---------------------------
: > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment
: > about
: > : > : > "problems
: > : > : > : > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
host" -
: > : > well I
: > : > : > : > think
: > : > : > : > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : > : > : > : Regards.
: > : > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : > : Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions
are
: > still
: > : > : > : > supported
: > : > : > : > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at
: > least 2
: > : > more
: > : > : > : > years
: > : > : > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are
: > : > supported by
: > : > : > RTR
: > : > : > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server,
then
: > any
: > : > : > *server*
: > : > : > : > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of
your
: > : > host.
: > : > : > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several
years,
: > and
: > : > : > Windows
: > : > : > : > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have
not
: > : > affected
: > : > : > it
: > : > : > : > in
: > : > : > : > : > any way.
: > : > : > : > : > --
: > : > : > : > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > : > : > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > : > : > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous
problems
: > : > arising
: > : > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > : > > many
: > : > : > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing
to
: > : > problems
: > : > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > : > > my
: > : > : > : > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still
: > have)
: > : > : > prompted
: > : > : > : > : > > this
: > : > : > : > : > > reply:
: > : > : > : > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased
: > upgrading
: > : > or
: > : > : > : > patching
: > : > : > : > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we
can
: > no
: > : > longer
: > : > : > : > : > > guarantee
: > : > : > : > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that
: > : > eventually a
: > : > : > : > : > > security
: > : > : > : > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you
really
: > need
: > : > to do
: > : > : > is
: > : > : > : > get
: > : > : > : > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product
that
: > we
: > : > are
: > : > : > : > barely
: > : > : > : > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the
: > extensions
: > : > at
: > : > : > this
: > : > : > : > : > > time.
: > : > : > : > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and
: > there is
: > : > no
: > : > : > work
: > : > : > : > : > > around
: > : > : > : > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone
who
: > : > relies on
: > : > : > : > this
: > : > : > : > : > > product.
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage
for
: > quite
: > : > a
: > : > : > number
: > : > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs
: > : > Dreamweaver,
: > : > : > : > coffecup
: > : > : > : > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major
: > operation.
: > : > : > Having
: > : > : > : > said
: > : > : > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these
: > : > FrontPage
: > : > : > : > related
: > : > : > : > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
S

saintkelley

WOW! That was borderline rude. I actually did that a couple of days ago and
it hadn't generated any responses so I was merely asking somebody (you) that
had been helpful on something else. Please excuse me for bothering you and
(in your mind) VIOLATING board etiquette. Shame on me! It won't happen
again. Please accept my humble and sincere apologies...

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
You need to start your own thread with it's specific subject instead of
hijacking someone else's unrelated thread.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---------------------------
: Tom,
:
: Do you know a "security-image-verification" form program that you
recommend
: that integrates well with FP2003?
:
: I have always used the FP forms, but the amount of spam i get seems worse
: and worse.
:
: If its easier, my email is guru at yourmarketingneedshelp . com
:
: Thanks!
: Kelley
:
: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
:
: > I made up my mind based on their fast tech and sales response to
questions,
: > all normally within 30 minutes.
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > ---------------------------
: > : > : Tom,
: > :
: > : Thank you for your crystal tech rec.
: > :
: > : I transferred 3 domains to them today and I was extremely impressed.
: > :
: > : Thanks again,
: > : Kelley
: > : www.yourmarketingneedshelp.com
: > :
: > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > :
: > : > They're located in Arizona. All information, including pricing, can
be
: > found
: > : > on their website.
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > ---------------------------
message
: > : > : > : > :I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is
their
: > : > : pricing?
: > : > :
: > : > : One question....is their tech support American? No offense, but I
: > can't
: > : > : stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it
: > drives
: > : > me
: > : > : crazy trying to explain something to them!!!
: > : > :
: > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house server for
years,
: > but
: > : > have
: > : > : > decided to move them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly
: > : > recommended to
: > : > : > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are excellent and
the
: > : > service
: > : > : > is impeccable. The response to service or general questions is
fast,
: > : > fast,
: > : > : > fast.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > www.crystaltech.com
: > : > : >
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > ---------------------------
: > message
: > : > : > : > : > : > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage
hosting?
: > I
: > : > have
: > : > : > : been a winsave, then gate (who bought out winsave) user for
the
: > last 9
: > : > : > years.
: > : > : > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their tech
service
: > which
: > : > has
: > : > : > : moved offshore and their customer service, which can't seem to
: > solve
: > : > : > anything.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : I was thinking of switching my 60+ sites somewhere else
(perhaps
: > : > : > Godaddy?),
: > : > : > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Thanks!
: > : > : > : Kelley
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support
for
: > : > server
: > : > : > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the ISP/Web Hosts have to or
will.
: > There
: > : > are
: > : > : > : > several hosts who have been reporting they will still be
: > offering
: > : > : > extensions
: > : > : > : > even though they are out of support for some systems.
: > : > : > : > --
: > : > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > : > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > : > ---------------------------
: > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your comment
: > about
: > : > : > "problems
: > : > : > : > : being due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
host" -
: > : > well I
: > : > : > : > think
: > : > : > : > : that you may have hit the nail on the head there!
: > : > : > : > : Regards.
: > : > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : > : Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > : www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : "Ronx" wrote:
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : > In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions
are
: > still
: > : > : > : > supported
: > : > : > : > : > by Microsoft on Windows 2003 servers and will be for at
: > least 2
: > : > more
: > : > : > : > years
: > : > : > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches end of support, and they are
: > : > supported by
: > : > : > RTR
: > : > : > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers.
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003 (or later) server,
then
: > any
: > : > : > *server*
: > : > : > : > : > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of
your
: > : > host.
: > : > : > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not changed for several
years,
: > and
: > : > : > Windows
: > : > : > : > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have
not
: > : > affected
: > : > : > it
: > : > : > : > in
: > : > : > : > : > any way.
: > : > : > : > : > --
: > : > : > : > : > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression)
: > : > : > : > : > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: > : > : > : > : > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous
problems
: > : > arising
: > : > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > : > > many
: > : > : > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general website editing
to
: > : > problems
: > : > : > : > with
: > : > : > : > : > > my
: > : > : > : > : > > internet server. The last problem that I had(and still
: > have)
: > : > : > prompted
: > : > : > : > : > > this
: > : > : > : > : > > reply:
: > : > : > : > : > > Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased
: > upgrading
: > : > or
: > : > : > : > patching
: > : > : > : > : > > the product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we
can
: > no
: > : > longer
: > : > : > : > : > > guarantee
: > : > : > : > : > > that FrontPage will work on our systems and know that
: > : > eventually a
: > : > : > : > : > > security
: > : > : > : > : > > patch will break FrontPage. The first thing you
really
: > need
: > : > to do
: > : > : > is
: > : > : > : > get
: > : > : > : > : > > away from FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product
that
: > we
: > : > are
: > : > : > : > barely
: > : > : > : > : > > supporting. We basically install and uninstall the
: > extensions
: > : > at
: > : > : > this
: > : > : > : > : > > time.
: > : > : > : > : > > If a future security patch kills those extensions and
: > there is
: > : > no
: > : > : > work
: > : > : > : > : > > around
: > : > : > : > : > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone
who
: > : > relies on
: > : > : > : > this
: > : > : > : > : > > product.
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A SHOCK! I have used FrontPage
for
: > quite
: > : > a
: > : > : > number
: > : > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > : > > years and on checking out some alternative programs
: > : > Dreamweaver,
: > : > : > : > coffecup
: > : > : > : > : > > etc. changing over is going to be a major, major
: > operation.
: > : > : > Having
: > : > : > : > said
: > : > : > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why there are all these
: > : > FrontPage
: > : > : > : > related
: > : > : > : > : > > problems cropping up.
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > >
: > : > : > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >
 
B

Brian Mailman

No, it wasn't rude. This isn't instant- or text-messaging and even more
importantly, it's not a face-to-face synchronous conversation where you
can make an "aside" to someone.

It's a newsgroup, and newsgroups have a different structure. Tom's
request was quite reasonable in order to assist you.

B/
WOW! That was borderline rude. I actually did that a couple of days
ago and it hadn't generated any responses so I was merely asking
somebody (you) that had been helpful on something else. Please
excuse me for bothering you and (in your mind) VIOLATING board
etiquette. Shame on me! It won't happen again. Please accept my
humble and sincere apologies...

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
You need to start your own thread with it's specific subject
instead of hijacking someone else's unrelated thread. -- Tom
[Pepper] Willett Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
--------------------------- "saintkelley"
: Tom, :
: Do you know a "security-image-verification" form program that
you recommend : that integrates well with FP2003? : : I have always
used the FP forms, but the amount of spam i get seems worse : and
worse. : : If its easier, my email is guru at
yourmarketingneedshelp . com : : Thanks! : Kelley : : "Tom [Pepper]
Willett" wrote: : : > I made up my mind based on their fast tech
and sales response to questions, : > all normally within 30
minutes. : > -- : > Tom [Pepper] Willett : > Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage : > --------------------------- : > "saintkelley"
: > :
Tom, : > : : > : Thank you for your crystal tech rec. : > : : > : I
transferred 3 domains to them today and I was extremely impressed.
: > : : > : Thanks again, : > : Kelley : > :
www.yourmarketingneedshelp.com : > : : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
wrote: : > : : > : > They're located in Arizona. All information,
including pricing, can be : > found : > : > on their website. : > :
: > : > -- : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett : > : > Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage : > : > --------------------------- : > : > "saintkelley"
: > : >
:I will check them out asap as I am ready to start moving. How is
their : > : > : pricing? : > : > : : > : > : One question....is
their tech support American? No offense, but I : > can't : > : > :
stand offshore tech support who can barely understand english...it
: > drives : > : > me : > : > : crazy trying to explain something
to them!!! : > : > : : > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote: : > :
: : > : > : > We've been hosting our sites on our own in-house
server for years, : > but : > : > have : > : > : > decided to move
them to another host. Crystal Tech was highly : > : > recommended
to : > : > : > me, and I've moved 4 webs so far. I think they are
excellent and the : > : > service : > : > : > is impeccable. The
response to service or general questions is fast, : > : > fast, : >
: > : > fast. : > : > : > : > : > : > www.crystaltech.com : > : > :
: > : > : > -- : > : > : > Tom [Pepper] Willett : > : > : >
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage : > : > : > --------------------------- :
: > : > "saintkelley" <[email protected]>
wrote in : > message : > : > : >
: > : >
: > : what hosts are out there that you recommend for frontpage
hosting? : > I : > : > have : > : > : > : been a winsave, then gate
(who bought out winsave) user for the : > last 9 : > : > : > years.
: > : > : > : Recently I have become extremely unhappy with their
tech service : > which : > : > has : > : > : > : moved offshore and
their customer service, which can't seem to : > solve : > : > : >
anything. : > : > : > : : > : > : > : I was thinking of switching
my 60+ sites somewhere else (perhaps : > : > : > Godaddy?), : > : >
: > : so I am looking for recommendations and testimonials. : > : >
: > : : > : > : > : Thanks! : > : > : > : Kelley : > : > : > : : >
: > : > : "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote: : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
Also keep in mind that just because MS is dropping support for :
: > server : > : > : > : > extensions, it doesn't mean the
ISP/Web Hosts have to or will. : > There : > : > are : > : > : > :
several hosts who have been reporting they will still be : >
offering : > : > : > extensions : > : > : > : > even though they
are out of support for some systems. : > : > : > : > -- : > : > : >
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett : > : > : > : > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
: > : > : > : > --------------------------- : > : > : > : > "Kes"
: > : >
: > : > : Thank you Ron for your very helpful info plus your
comment : > about : > : > : > "problems : > : > : > : > : being due
to the competence (or lack thereof) of your host" - : > : > well I
: > : > : > : > think : > : > : > : > : that you may have hit the
nail on the head there! : > : > : > : > : Regards. : > : > : > : >
: -- : > : > : > : > : Kesdavies : > : > : > : > :
www.costadelsolcommunity.com : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > : :
: > : > : > : "Ronx" wrote: : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > : >
In addition to Steve's comments, FrontPage extensions are : > still
: > : > : > : > supported : > : > : > : > : > by Microsoft on
Windows 2003 servers and will be for at : > least 2 : > : > more :
: > : > : > years : > : > : > : > : > until Server 2003 reaches
end of support, and they are : > : > supported by : > : > : > RTR
: > : > : > : > : > (www.rtr.com) on Windows 2008 servers. : > : >
: > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > If you are hosted on a Windows 2003
(or later) server, then : > any : > : > : > *server* : > : > : > :
: > problems are due to the competence (or lack thereof) of your
: > : > host. : > : > : > : > : > FrontPage (the program) has not
changed for several years, : > and : > : > : > Windows : > : > : >
: > : > updates in Windows XP (I cannot comment on Vista) have not
: > : > affected : > : > : > it : > : > : > : > in : > : > : > : >
: > any way. : > : > : > : > : > -- : > : > : > : > : > Ron Symonds
- Microsoft MVP (Expression) : > : > : > : > : > Reply only to
group - emails will be deleted unread. : > : > : > : > : >
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : > : > > For the last number of months I have had numerous
problems : > : > arising : > : > : > : > with : > : > : > : > : > >
many : > : > : > : > : > > of the FrontPage aspects, from general
website editing to : > : > problems : > : > : > : > with : > : > :
: > : > > my : > : > : > : > : > > internet server. The last
problem that I had(and still : > have) : > : > : > prompted : > : >
: > : > : > > this : > : > : > : > : > > reply: : > : > : > : > : >
Microsoft has discontinued FrontPage and has ceased : > upgrading
: > : > or : > : > : > : > patching : > : > : > : > : > > the
product. As of 2006 it has been end of life, we can : > no : > : >
longer : > : > : > : > : > > guarantee : > : > : > : > : > > that
FrontPage will work on our systems and know that : > : > eventually
a : > : > : > : > : > > security : > : > : > : > : > > patch will
break FrontPage. The first thing you really : > need : > : > to do
: > : > : > is : > : > : > : > get : > : > : > : > : > > away from
FrontPage ASAP. FrontPage is a dead product that : > we : > : > are
: > : > : > : > barely : > : > : > : > : > > supporting. We
basically install and uninstall the : > extensions : > : > at : > :
: > this : > : > : > : > : > > time. : > : > : > : > : > > If a
future security patch kills those extensions and : > there is : > :
no : > : > : > work : > : > : > : > : > > around : > : > : > : >
: > > found, then its going to be a major issue for anyone who : >
: > relies on : > : > : > : > this : > : > : > : > : > > product. :
: > : > : > : > > : > : > : > : > : > > THIS REALLY GAVE ME A
SHOCK! I have used FrontPage for : > quite : > : > a : > : > : >
number : > : > : > : > of : > : > : > : > : > > years and on
checking out some alternative programs : > : > Dreamweaver, : > : >
: > : > coffecup : > : > : > : > : > > etc. changing over is going
to be a major, major : > operation. : > : > : > Having : > : > : >
: > said : > : > : > : > : > > that, it does perhaps explain why
there are all these : > : > FrontPage : > : > : > : > related : > :
: > : > : > > problems cropping up. : > : > : > : > : > > : > : >
: > : > : > > : > : > : > : > : > > : > : > : > : > : > > Kesdavies
: > : > : > : > : > > www.costadelsolcommunity.com : > : > : > : >
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Trevor Lawrence

If I understand what you want, try googling for "captcha"

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Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org

Brian Mailman said:
No, it wasn't rude. This isn't instant- or text-messaging and even more
importantly, it's not a face-to-face synchronous conversation where you
can make an "aside" to someone.

It's a newsgroup, and newsgroups have a different structure. Tom's
request was quite reasonable in order to assist you.

B/
WOW! That was borderline rude. I actually did that a couple of days
ago and it hadn't generated any responses so I was merely asking
somebody (you) that had been helpful on something else. Please
excuse me for bothering you and (in your mind) VIOLATING board
etiquette. Shame on me! It won't happen again. Please accept my
humble and sincere apologies...

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
You need to start your own thread with it's specific subject
instead of hijacking someone else's unrelated thread. -- Tom
[Pepper] Willett Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ---------------------------
"saintkelley"
: Tom, :
: Do you know a "security-image-verification" form program that
you recommend : that integrates well with FP2003? : : I have always
used the FP forms, but the amount of spam i get seems worse : and
worse. : : If its easier, my email is guru at
yourmarketingneedshelp . com : : Thanks! : Kelley
 

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