Installing Access 2000 or Access 2003 using Vista

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Tracy

Does anyone know if Access 2000 and/or Access 2003 will run on a computer
with Vista as the operating system. I went to buy a new laptop and the
salesperson didn't think I could run anything but 2007.

Thanks
 
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Gina Whipp

I called Microsoft to ask (for one of my other machines) and according to
them Access 2002 and up will load on Vista.
 
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Tracy

Tracy said:
Does anyone know if Access 2000 and/or Access 2003 will run on a computer
with Vista as the operating system. I went to buy a new laptop and the
salesperson didn't think I could run anything but 2007.

Thanks
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Tracy

Thank you. Everyone I have talked to said no (,computer sales people are
telling me no I have to buy a machine with XP on it) I am going to bite the
bullet and buy the Vista machine and will try to load 2003. If I run into
any problems I will post.

I really appreciate your help.

Tracy
 
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Chris Mills

Ah,
It was good of Gina to check with Microsoft.

But also, Microsoft has no interest in whether really obsolete MS stuff works
or not, and they certainly don't support such if you have problems.

It is my understanding that all Access (since Access 2.0), has been reported
to work on all Windows, at least up until Vista.

Having said that, I have struck problems with old Access on previous Windows,
but since others have had the opposite experience, I must put it down to my
particular app.

I would think a fair approach would be to say, try it. If you strike problems,
MS will be of no help (they won't be of much help, beyond the KB, on any
obsolete s/w incl A2003?)

I am hoping that A2000 runs on Vista. Being "pro-active" -Haa Haaa- I will
wait for a customer or the newsgroup to complain. I would be surprised if
A2000 does not run, or can't be made to run.

There was some pro-active interest in the topic by Tony Toews(MVP) such as
here:
microsoft.public.access.devtoolkits
Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:28
Tony Toews [MVP]
Re: Access 2002 Runtime and Vista

HTH
Chris
 
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Gina Whipp

Not only did I call Microsoft but I also bought the machine... I had to
have Windows XP because Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 won't load/work on
Vista, as far as I know (not sure 2.0 will load/work either) and Windows
Vista (for testing purposes for when the customers I support decided to
upgrade). So I know you can load 2002, 2003 and 2007 on Windows Vista with
no issues... so far anyway. My Windows XP machine has 2000, 2002, 2003 and
2007 and my Windows 98 machine has 97 on it. (Yes, I have seperate licenses
for all machines.)
 
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Chris Mills

Thanks very much, Gina.

My post was "generic" and certainly not getting at you or anything else (if
that's what you thought).

I have often had compatibility problems (e.g. A97 on WinXP falling over), but
the newsgroup reports this runs fine and therefore I assume it's some problem
or unusual feature of my app!

Since I already had an A2000 version of my app, which was current at the time,
it was easier to just upgrade them than try to fix some pesky problem I had
with A97!

Since that time, I have read reports that even A2.0 works fine at least on
WinXP (not aware of Vista reports).

Well, A2.0 DOES NOT WORK for me on WinXP. Who is right, me or the newsgroup?
Neither. My app probably doesn't work because it has special dll's, and again
it was easier for me to upgrade them to newer Access (since I had it
distributed already) than try and work out some pesky A2.0 problem.

I have not read, that earlier Access will not run on Vista. I HAVE read (Tony
Toews) that there may be some issues or installation issues. I am interested
in all such opinions.

I remain, that asking Microsoft what will or will not run on Vista is probably
a waste of time. I would find it hard to believe, that they care very much
whether A2, A97, A2000, A2002, run or not, since their position (naturally) is
to encourage upgrade.

I very much appreciate your feedback.
For myself, I'll wait and see what problems I actually come across, in my
circumstances. It seems to me, that the experience can differ amongst
developers, or their particular programs. Which makes your experiences
perfectly valid of course! (and valuable!)

Best Regards
Ta
Chris
 
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Gina Whipp

No I did not take your remarks the 'wrong' way but noticed I failed to
mention that I actually had done the installs and they work for me. As for
97 on a Windows XP machine??? It's why I opted to leave my old WIndows 98
machine set up. And never did try to load Access 2.0 on 98 or anything
above that.

Allen Browne has a web site about Vista/ Microsoft Access issues, check out
http://allenbrowne.com:80/tips.html might be of some insight.
 
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Chris Mills

Thanks again, for Allen Browne's tips.

My reading, is that A2000 can be made to work, but there are problems if
trying to run multiple versions.

(I wouldn't be surprised if there are other problems too, of course!)

Chris
 
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Paul Sanguinetti

Tracy, Access 2003 as well as Access XP seem to run on Vista, but I've
encountered one nightmare you should be aware of. When Compact/Repair was run
on the back end data store of an application that had been running fine (the
be was transferred from an XP machine with data already entered), all of the
data that had been entered while it was on the Vista machine was errased.
Only the original transferred data was left. In addition, the backup mdb got
put in a location that was very difficult to find (under user/application
data/.../.../transition files/) and were named db1.mdb.

I suspect that compact/repair has to be run as administrator as Vista
blocked the normal copy/rename process because the mdb was determined to be
"read only", but I haven't been able to test the process (it happened on a
customer's machine).
 
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Chris Mills

I'd be naturally suspicious, that if it's not reproducible (i.e. that unless
it happened more than one) then it might just be happenstance.

I mean, I believe I've had customers run a Repair and scrogg a file beyond
redemption, very seldom (once or twice in 10yrs), on any OS really (no such
forensic tests between OS were possible!).

But interesting and valid to post suspicions. The second part, of course, was
not a scrogged file but just losing where Vista put it?
Chris
 
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