Internet service provider

George · Jan 23, 2008

&I am an end user and i have been trying to get my e-mail account
synchronised(received/sent) on the Microsoft Outlook...

Now, the e-mail account i am trying to set up is a co.uk account and
therefore i need to get the relevant info (POP & SMTP)...

I have e-mailed the company (note : it is a charity/free account) and ended
up nowhere...
Is there another way i can get the information??

F. H. Muffman · Jan 23, 2008

George said:
&I am an end user and i have been trying to get my e-mail account
synchronised(received/sent) on the Microsoft Outlook...

Now, the e-mail account i am trying to set up is a co.uk account and
therefore i need to get the relevant info (POP & SMTP)...

I have e-mailed the company (note : it is a charity/free account) and
ended
up nowhere...
Is there another way i can get the information??

Try the obvious ones like mail.(whatever) or pop.(whatever).
Try Googling for the domain name with pop3.
Maybe try saying what the domain name actually is and, y'know, we could
supplant your research.

Gordon · Jan 23, 2008

George said:
&I am an end user and i have been trying to get my e-mail account
synchronised(received/sent) on the Microsoft Outlook...

Now, the e-mail account i am trying to set up is a co.uk account and
therefore i need to get the relevant info (POP & SMTP)...

I have e-mailed the company (note : it is a charity/free account) and
ended
up nowhere...
Is there another way i can get the information??

Do they have a web site? How did you sign up for your account?

Brian Tillman · Jan 23, 2008

F. H. Muffman said:
Maybe try saying what the domain name actually is and, y'know, we
could supplant your research.

Or even supplement it.

F. H. Muffman · Jan 24, 2008

Brian Tillman said:
Or even supplement it.

Bleh. Words are words. =)

George · Jan 24, 2008

Dear "F. H. Muffman,

Thank you for your reply...

the company finally replied (see below)...
However, it looks to me that they provided the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)
and not the POP details...

Any other advice...of how to reach my goal??

REPLY:
MagicTaxi incoming mail server (pop3) details are as follows:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk
We do not supply an outgoing mail server (SMTP).

George · Jan 24, 2008

Dear Mr Tilman,

Thanks you for your reply.

I am attaching a copy of the reply that i ginally received from the e-mail
providr...

However, it seems that they provided me with outgoing mail server , rather
than the POP info

REPLY
MagicTaxi incoming mail server (pop3) details are as follows:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk
We do not supply an outgoing mail server (SMTP).

Any other advice would be mostly appreciated

Brian Tillman · Jan 24, 2008

George said:
I am attaching a copy of the reply that i ginally received from the
e-mail providr...

However, it seems that they provided me with outgoing mail server ,
rather than the POP info

Crazy. How can a mail provider supply service that is inbound only and
expect to stay in business?

Since you don't have an SMTP server, why not create a free gmail account and
use that SMTP server? You can certainly keep your existing POP service if
you don't wish to change email addresses, or you can switch to gmail for
both inbound and outbound service.

Brian Tillman · Jan 24, 2008

George said:
I am attaching a copy of the reply that i ginally received from the
e-mail providr...

However, it seems that they provided me with outgoing mail server ,
rather than the POP info

REPLY
MagicTaxi incoming mail server (pop3) details are as follows:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk
We do not supply an outgoing mail server (SMTP).

Guess what? They're lying to you. There is an SMTP server running on
mail.magictaxi.co.uk. I can connect to it. It's listening on the standard
port 25. If I were in your shoes, I'd try setting up your account to use
mail.magictaxi.co.uk as the SMTP server, port 25 as the port, and enable
authentication to the outgoing server, specifying that the incoming
credentials should be used, and see what happens.

Rich/rerat · Jan 27, 2008

George,
MagicTaxi's reply states that Do Not Provide an Outgoing (SMTP) server in
their service. So you would have to use their webmail interface, to send
mail from the account. Or use another ISP/Mail service SMTP server to send
mail from Outlook.

The Incoming (POP) Mail server is:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk

"REPLY
MagicTaxi incoming mail server (pop3) details are as follows:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk
We do not supply an outgoing mail server (SMTP)."

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Dear Mr Tilman,

Thanks you for your reply.

I am attaching a copy of the reply that i ginally received from the e-mail
providr...

However, it seems that they provided me with outgoing mail server , rather
than the POP info

REPLY
MagicTaxi incoming mail server (pop3) details are as follows:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk
We do not supply an outgoing mail server (SMTP).

Any other advice would be mostly appreciated

Brian Tillman · Jan 27, 2008

Rich/rerat said:
MagicTaxi's reply states that Do Not Provide an Outgoing (SMTP)
server in their service. So you would have to use their webmail
interface, to send mail from the account. Or use another ISP/Mail
service SMTP server to send mail from Outlook.

The Incoming (POP) Mail server is:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk

"REPLY
MagicTaxi incoming mail server (pop3) details are as follows:
mail.magictaxi.co.uk
We do not supply an outgoing mail server (SMTP)."

And yet, funny thing, there is an SMTP server listening on port 25.

F.H. Muffman · Jan 27, 2008

Rich/rerat said:
And yet, funny thing, there is an SMTP server listening on port 25.

Probably because that's where the MX record for magictaxi.co.uk points for
inbound mail?

Brian Tillman · Jan 28, 2008

F.H. Muffman said:
Probably because that's where the MX record for magictaxi.co.uk
points for inbound mail?

C:\ nslookup

set type=cname
smtp.magicmail.co.uk

magicmail.co.uk
primary name server = ns0.ukfast.net
responsible mail addr = support.ukfast.net
serial = 2007082370
refresh = 7200 (2 hours)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 604800 (7 days)
default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

set type=mx
smtp.magicmail.co.uk

magicmail.co.uk
primary name server = ns0.ukfast.net
responsible mail addr = support.ukfast.net
serial = 2007082370
refresh = 7200 (2 hours)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 604800 (7 days)
default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

set type=any
smtp.magicmail.co.uk

Non-authoritative answer:
smtp.magicmail.co.uk internet address = 81.201.128.7

set type=a
smtp.magicmail.co.uk

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: smtp.magicmail.co.uk
Address: 81.201.128.7

mail.magicmail.co.uk

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: mail.magicmail.co.uk
Address: 81.201.128.7

F.H. Muffman · Jan 29, 2008

F.H. Muffman said:
C:\ nslookup

magicmail.co.uk
primary name server = ns0.ukfast.net
responsible mail addr = support.ukfast.net
serial = 2007082370
refresh = 7200 (2 hours)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 604800 (7 days)
default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

Uhhh, why did you look up the MX record for *smtp.magicmail.co.uk*?

a) It was magictaxi.co.uk.
b) You don't lookup the MX record for the server, you look up the MX record
for the domain, which, in this case, would be magictaxi.co.uk.

C:\>nslookup
Default Server: cns.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net
Address: 68.87.69.146:53

set type=mx
magictaxi.co.uk

Server: cns.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net
Address: 68.87.69.146:53

Non-authoritative answer:
magictaxi.co.uk MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.magictaxi.co.uk

mail.magictaxi.co.uk internet address = 88.208.222.197

Brian Tillman · Jan 29, 2008

F.H. Muffman said:
Uhhh, why did you look up the MX record for *smtp.magicmail.co.uk*?

Um, because I'm stupid and typed the wrong thing.

smtp.magictaxi.co.uk

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: smtp.magictaxi.co.uk
Address: 89.200.136.82

set type=mx
smtp.magictaxi.co.uk

magictaxi.co.uk
primary name server = ns.iomart.co.uk
responsible mail addr = dns.iomart.com
serial = 2008012202
refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 604800 (7 days)
default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

Leonard Little · Jan 29, 2008

Brian, I saw your name on another forum entry regarding corrupted file attachemtns sent by outlook when running Computer Associates firewall. I have the exact problem but can't come up with a fix. DId you find one?

F.H. Muffman · Jan 30, 2008

F.H. Muffman said:
Um, because I'm stupid and typed the wrong thing.

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: smtp.magictaxi.co.uk
Address: 89.200.136.82
magictaxi.co.uk
primary name server = ns.iomart.co.uk
responsible mail addr = dns.iomart.com
serial = 2008012202
refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 604800 (7 days)
default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

Again, you don't look for an MX record for smtp.magictaxi.co.uk, unless you
plan on mailing [email protected]. Try looking up magictaxi.co.uk,
and I think you'll see that the primary (and only) MX record for the *domain*
is the *server* smtp.magictaxi.co.uk.

Brian Tillman · Jan 30, 2008

F.H. Muffman said:
Again, you don't look for an MX record for smtp.magictaxi.co.uk,
unless you plan on mailing [email protected]. Try looking
up magictaxi.co.uk, and I think you'll see that the primary (and
only) MX record for the *domain* is the *server* smtp.magictaxi.co.uk.

I don't think that's the point, though. The OP said can receive magictaxi
mail but they can't send mail via a magictaxi SMTP server and I still don't
see why that would be true when magictaxi cleary HAS an SMTP server, despite
what they claim, since I can connect to it.

F.H. Muffman · Jan 30, 2008

Again, you don't look for an MX record for smtp.magictaxi.co.uk,

I don't think that's the point, though. The OP said can receive
magictaxi mail but they can't send mail via a magictaxi SMTP server
and I still don't see why that would be true when magictaxi cleary HAS
an SMTP server, despite what they claim, since I can connect to it.

It might not be the point, but it is still a valid correction on how to properly
look for MX records.

You've never seen an SMTP server that only accepts inbound messages, messages
for the domain which the server is responsible for? It isn't that uncommon.
In fact, that sort of lock down prevents spam.

Brian Tillman · Jan 31, 2008

F.H. Muffman said:
It might not be the point, but it is still a valid correction on how
to properly look for MX records.
Certainly.

You've never seen an SMTP server that only accepts inbound messages,
messages for the domain which the server is responsible for? It
isn't that uncommon. In fact, that sort of lock down prevents spam.

But we don't know whether or not this is the case here because, even though
I've siggested it several times now, the OP hasn't TRIED it to see if it
would work.

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