license rule for new software

[Howdego]

I have a desktop running the OEM version of Office 2002. It is connected to
my home/office network. Nothing else is on the network. I plan to buy a new
laptop and a standalone version of Office Standard 2003. I would like to
know if the license agreement for the new software will allow me to replace
the software on my desktop with the new Office software and to run both the
laptop and the desktop at the same time when the laptop is connected to the
network?

 

[garfield-n-odie]

Office 2003 Standard is available as an OEM version and a retail version. If
Office 2003 comes preinstalled on your new laptop by the computer
manufacturer, then it is an OEM version, and the software is licensed for
installation on that computer only. If you purchase a retail version of
Office 2003 from your favorite retailer or online vendor, then the software
is licensed for installation on one desktop computer and one laptop computer
owned by you. Some online vendors offer both OEM and retail versions, so be
careful that you don't end up with an OEM version if you buy online.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines, you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being 'you' <g>).

=========

"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

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[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

That's what I meant. You mean you couldn't read my mind?

(If you could, you'd head for the nearest psychotherapist!)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines,
you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being 'you'
<g>).

=========

"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message

But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Howdego]

Thank you everybody four responses;

I think I see. I could load a single retail package of the software onto
both my machines, but I will not be able to have both computers on my home
network at the same time. Hmmm, difficult to transfer data between computers
with that restriction. And I will not be able to use my Internet access
connection simultaneously either. Or is that still possible as long as only
one application is open? But if the former is true, I might as well operate
with the old OEM version 2 on my desktop and just load the new retail version
of office on my laptop. Do I have this right?

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines, you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being 'you' <g>).

=========

"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob I]

You have it correct.

Thank you everybody four responses;

I think I see. I could load a single retail package of the software onto
both my machines, but I will not be able to have both computers on my home
network at the same time. Hmmm, difficult to transfer data between computers
with that restriction. And I will not be able to use my Internet access
connection simultaneously either. Or is that still possible as long as only
one application is open? But if the former is true, I might as well operate
with the old OEM version 2 on my desktop and just load the new retail version
of office on my laptop. Do I have this right?

:

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines, you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being 'you' <g>).

=========

"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

You could still have them networked together but you can't be using Office
on one system and your wife on the other system. That has nothing to do with
being networked together or accessing the Internet simultaneously.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Thank you everybody four responses;

I think I see. I could load a single retail package of the software onto
both my machines, but I will not be able to have both computers on my
home
network at the same time. Hmmm, difficult to transfer data between
computers
with that restriction. And I will not be able to use my Internet access
connection simultaneously either. Or is that still possible as long as
only
one application is open? But if the former is true, I might as well
operate
with the old OEM version 2 on my desktop and just load the new retail
version
of office on my laptop. Do I have this right?

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines,
you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being 'you'
<g>).

=========

"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message

But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[FrustratedCustomer!!]

Now I'm confused too.
1. Is the problem you CAN'T physically have two computers turned on with
one copy of Office on them because of some network or internet thing that
would cause the programs not to work if both are on at once, or that you MAY
NOT have both systems on at once because of the licensing agreement?

2. I have a laptop and a computer, for example, and sometimes I find it
helpful to be looking at a dataset in Excel on one screen while writing a
report in Word on another. (Yeah yeah, I know, I just need a bigger monitor,
but whatever.) Am I to understand that doing this is forbidden under a
retail Office 2003 license?

3. Why doesn't Microsoft make a license for home computing that lets a
person put ONE copy of their **EXPENSIVE** product on all computers in a
single household?!?!? It's OBVIOUS that people want to be able to do this!
They should make it available!

You could still have them networked together but you can't be using Office
on one system and your wife on the other system. That has nothing to do with
being networked together or accessing the Internet simultaneously.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Thank you everybody four responses;

I think I see. I could load a single retail package of the software onto
both my machines, but I will not be able to have both computers on my
home
network at the same time. Hmmm, difficult to transfer data between
computers
with that restriction. And I will not be able to use my Internet access
connection simultaneously either. Or is that still possible as long as
only
one application is open? But if the former is true, I might as well
operate
with the old OEM version 2 on my desktop and just load the new retail
version
of office on my laptop. Do I have this right?

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines,
you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being 'you'
<g>).

=========
But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Office *can* be installed on both a laptop and a desktop. This has nothing
to do with whether or not two systems are networked together.

From the EULA:
"install an additional copy of the Software on a second, portable device for
the exclusive use of the primary user of the first copy of the Software."

If I'm not mistaken, Office 2007 will have an edition that will allow
multiple installations for a family. But don't hold me to that - I can't
find anything right now.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Now I'm confused too.
1. Is the problem you CAN'T physically have two computers turned on with
one copy of Office on them because of some network or internet thing that
would cause the programs not to work if both are on at once, or that you
MAY
NOT have both systems on at once because of the licensing agreement?

2. I have a laptop and a computer, for example, and sometimes I find it
helpful to be looking at a dataset in Excel on one screen while writing a
report in Word on another. (Yeah yeah, I know, I just need a bigger
monitor,
but whatever.) Am I to understand that doing this is forbidden under a
retail Office 2003 license?

3. Why doesn't Microsoft make a license for home computing that lets a
person put ONE copy of their **EXPENSIVE** product on all computers in a
single household?!?!? It's OBVIOUS that people want to be able to do
this!
They should make it available!

You could still have them networked together but you can't be using
Office
on one system and your wife on the other system. That has nothing to do
with
being networked together or accessing the Internet simultaneously.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Thank you everybody four responses;

I think I see. I could load a single retail package of the software
onto
both my machines, but I will not be able to have both computers on my
home
network at the same time. Hmmm, difficult to transfer data between
computers
with that restriction. And I will not be able to use my Internet
access
connection simultaneously either. Or is that still possible as long
as
only
one application is open? But if the former is true, I might as well
operate
with the old OEM version 2 on my desktop and just load the new retail
version
of office on my laptop. Do I have this right?

:

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines,
you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being
'you'
<g>).

=========
But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[VManes]

1 - you can have both installations working at the same time, networked or
not. If there is any communication between them, it's a verrrrry deep dark
secret, and no one has reported it blowing up their computers. (Let's not
give MS any ideas.)

2 - If you are the licenced user, both copies are for your exclusive use.
Again, no mention of concurrency is in the licence, just exclusivity.

3 - If you "qualify" for the Student and Teacher Edition, you may install on
up to three computers (any type) in your household (for non-commercial use.)

Val


...
Now I'm confused too.
1. Is the problem you CAN'T physically have two computers turned on with
one copy of Office on them because of some network or internet thing that
would cause the programs not to work if both are on at once, or that you MAY
NOT have both systems on at once because of the licensing agreement?

2. I have a laptop and a computer, for example, and sometimes I find it
helpful to be looking at a dataset in Excel on one screen while writing a
report in Word on another. (Yeah yeah, I know, I just need a bigger
monitor,
but whatever.) Am I to understand that doing this is forbidden under a
retail Office 2003 license?

3. Why doesn't Microsoft make a license for home computing that lets a
person put ONE copy of their **EXPENSIVE** product on all computers in a
single household?!?!? It's OBVIOUS that people want to be able to do this!
They should make it available!

You could still have them networked together but you can't be using Office
on one system and your wife on the other system. That has nothing to do
with
being networked together or accessing the Internet simultaneously.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Thank you everybody four responses;

I think I see. I could load a single retail package of the software
onto
both my machines, but I will not be able to have both computers on my
home
network at the same time. Hmmm, difficult to transfer data between
computers
with that restriction. And I will not be able to use my Internet access
connection simultaneously either. Or is that still possible as long as
only
one application is open? But if the former is true, I might as well
operate
with the old OEM version 2 on my desktop and just load the new retail
version
of office on my laptop. Do I have this right?

Hi JoAnn,

Ummm, not quite You can install a retail edition on both machines,
you're basically not intended to be using both copies
simultaneously (i.e. trying to not have two different people being
'you'
<g>).

=========
But *not* both at the same time. It's one system or the other.

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx