license

S

smbellani

when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed to 01
individual having 03 PCs
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

"licensed to 01 individual having 03 PCs"

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Microsoft MVP
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| when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install onto
| 03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed to 01
| individual having 03 PCs
 
T

Tony Jollans

If it says up to 3 PCs, it means up to 3 PCs.

If it means up to 3 PCs all belonging to the same person then it will say
(perhaps in some obscure way) up to 3 PCs all belonging to the same person.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

The reason I asked my question is because there are multi-seat licenses for
businesses and then there are your run-of-the-mill retail licenses and then
there's the Students and Teachers Edition license.

Three different critters. The answer to your question could vary depending
on what kind of license you have.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



JoAnn Paules said:
The license for what?

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smbellani said:
when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install
onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed to 01
individual having 03 PCs
 
T

Tony Jollans

I don't have the Student and Teacher edition so do not know, but what is the
purpose of the "3 PCs" bit? You are saying that one student living with his
or her parents could legally use one copy for the three of them (each with
their own PC) but three students living together would need three copies. So
the real beneficiaries of the student licence are non-student family
members.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


JoAnn Paules said:
No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smbellani said:
For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load our
individual
PC
 
B

Bob I

IF you had the 2003 S&T version, AND you and your brother and your
sister ALL live in the same house, THEN yes it would.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

It's not me - I didn't write the EULA.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Tony Jollans said:
I don't have the Student and Teacher edition so do not know, but what is
the
purpose of the "3 PCs" bit? You are saying that one student living with
his
or her parents could legally use one copy for the three of them (each with
their own PC) but three students living together would need three copies.
So
the real beneficiaries of the student licence are non-student family
members.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


JoAnn Paules said:
No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smbellani said:
For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load our
individual
PC

:

You mean the part about installing on the PCs of 3 members of the same
household?

smbellani wrote:

when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install
onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed to
01
individual having 03 PCs
 
A

Asher_N

For complete licensing details, consult MS.

Having said that, 3 broad categories:

VLK - Install on as many computers as you pay for using the same key.
Retail - Install on one computer
Student and Teacher - install on 3 computers, can belong to 3 individuals.
 
A

AR

I bought office 2003 pro retail; I have two desktops at home, I use both.
Actually, one is mostly used by my wife, and the other by myself.

We use it for non-professional activities, i.e. the closest to the business
use it gets is writing our resumes in Word.

Can I legally install second license on my other desktop?

It would be unfair if Microsoft required purchase of a second license.



JoAnn Paules said:
No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smbellani said:
For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load our
individual
PC
 
S

Susan Ramlet

Hi, AR,

To be certain of the terms of the license agreement for the software you
purchased, please read the terms that came with it.

That said, I believe that it is legal to install a single copy of Office
2003 Pro retail on a desktop and a laptop. I don't know why, but it's
basically a single-user license that they have extended to accommodate
people who also have laptops. You could contact a licensing specialist at
Microsoft if you want more information:

Call 1-800-426-9400, Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (Pacific
time)
and ask to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist. (Worldwide
customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites to find
contact information in their locations.)

I've called them and have had good luck speaking with a real person for
free.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


AR said:
I bought office 2003 pro retail; I have two desktops at home, I use both.
Actually, one is mostly used by my wife, and the other by myself.

We use it for non-professional activities, i.e. the closest to the business
use it gets is writing our resumes in Word.

Can I legally install second license on my other desktop?

It would be unfair if Microsoft required purchase of a second license.



JoAnn Paules said:
No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smbellani said:
For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load our
individual
PC

:

You mean the part about installing on the PCs of 3 members of the same
household?

smbellani wrote:

when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install
onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed to
01
individual having 03 PCs
 
A

AR

Susan, thank you for your answer.

I just spoke with a representative (pleasant surprise) and the answer is:

"Installing on two desktops is not legal, even if it's in the same
household." (unpleasant surprise)

The price of additional license is (almost) the same as for the first one.

My opinion is that this is very unfair by Microsoft. There should be some
sort of "household" license as there are many households that have more than
one computer in their home LAN.

NOTE: As stated already in this thread, the EULA permits installing second
license on a laptop (so if you have desktop + laptop you're ok, but not if
you have desktop + desktop... hmmm....)




Susan Ramlet said:
Hi, AR,

To be certain of the terms of the license agreement for the software you
purchased, please read the terms that came with it.

That said, I believe that it is legal to install a single copy of Office
2003 Pro retail on a desktop and a laptop. I don't know why, but it's
basically a single-user license that they have extended to accommodate
people who also have laptops. You could contact a licensing specialist at
Microsoft if you want more information:

Call 1-800-426-9400, Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (Pacific
time)
and ask to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist. (Worldwide
customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites to find
contact information in their locations.)

I've called them and have had good luck speaking with a real person for
free.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


AR said:
I bought office 2003 pro retail; I have two desktops at home, I use both.
Actually, one is mostly used by my wife, and the other by myself.

We use it for non-professional activities, i.e. the closest to the business
use it gets is writing our resumes in Word.

Can I legally install second license on my other desktop?

It would be unfair if Microsoft required purchase of a second license.



JoAnn Paules said:
No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load our
individual
PC

:

You mean the part about installing on the PCs of 3 members of the same
household?

smbellani wrote:

when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install
onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed to
01
individual having 03 PCs
 
S

Susan Ramlet

Yeah, it seems a little archaic--not sure why that would be any different.
But what you bought is a single license...I will be curious to see how
licensing will go for future versions; I wonder if it will change. Wouldn't
a household license be great? There are enterprise licenses for businesses,
so why not? I guess it would be difficult to define what a "household" is.

Anyhow, despite the disappointing answer, I'm glad you at least got one.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


AR said:
Susan, thank you for your answer.

I just spoke with a representative (pleasant surprise) and the answer is:

"Installing on two desktops is not legal, even if it's in the same
household." (unpleasant surprise)

The price of additional license is (almost) the same as for the first one.

My opinion is that this is very unfair by Microsoft. There should be some
sort of "household" license as there are many households that have more than
one computer in their home LAN.

NOTE: As stated already in this thread, the EULA permits installing second
license on a laptop (so if you have desktop + laptop you're ok, but not if
you have desktop + desktop... hmmm....)




Susan Ramlet said:
Hi, AR,

To be certain of the terms of the license agreement for the software you
purchased, please read the terms that came with it.

That said, I believe that it is legal to install a single copy of Office
2003 Pro retail on a desktop and a laptop. I don't know why, but it's
basically a single-user license that they have extended to accommodate
people who also have laptops. You could contact a licensing specialist at
Microsoft if you want more information:

Call 1-800-426-9400, Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (Pacific
time)
and ask to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist. (Worldwide
customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites to find
contact information in their locations.)

I've called them and have had good luck speaking with a real person for
free.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


AR said:
I bought office 2003 pro retail; I have two desktops at home, I use both.
Actually, one is mostly used by my wife, and the other by myself.

We use it for non-professional activities, i.e. the closest to the business
use it gets is writing our resumes in Word.

Can I legally install second license on my other desktop?

It would be unfair if Microsoft required purchase of a second license.



:

No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load our
individual
PC

:

You mean the part about installing on the PCs of 3 members of the same
household?

smbellani wrote:

when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can install
onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be
licensed
to
01
individual having 03 PCs
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

From what I read about Office 2007, the Home and Student Edition may ease
the cost for multi-computer households. (Please be aware that I am not privy
to "insider information" so I could be completely wrong.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Susan Ramlet said:
Yeah, it seems a little archaic--not sure why that would be any different.
But what you bought is a single license...I will be curious to see how
licensing will go for future versions; I wonder if it will change.
Wouldn't
a household license be great? There are enterprise licenses for
businesses,
so why not? I guess it would be difficult to define what a "household"
is.

Anyhow, despite the disappointing answer, I'm glad you at least got one.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


AR said:
Susan, thank you for your answer.

I just spoke with a representative (pleasant surprise) and the answer is:

"Installing on two desktops is not legal, even if it's in the same
household." (unpleasant surprise)

The price of additional license is (almost) the same as for the first
one.

My opinion is that this is very unfair by Microsoft. There should be
some
sort of "household" license as there are many households that have more than
one computer in their home LAN.

NOTE: As stated already in this thread, the EULA permits installing
second
license on a laptop (so if you have desktop + laptop you're ok, but not if
you have desktop + desktop... hmmm....)




Susan Ramlet said:
Hi, AR,

To be certain of the terms of the license agreement for the software
you
purchased, please read the terms that came with it.

That said, I believe that it is legal to install a single copy of
Office
2003 Pro retail on a desktop and a laptop. I don't know why, but it's
basically a single-user license that they have extended to accommodate
people who also have laptops. You could contact a licensing specialist at
Microsoft if you want more information:

Call 1-800-426-9400, Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (Pacific
time)
and ask to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist. (Worldwide
customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites to find
contact information in their locations.)

I've called them and have had good luck speaking with a real person for
free.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


I bought office 2003 pro retail; I have two desktops at home, I use both.
Actually, one is mostly used by my wife, and the other by myself.

We use it for non-professional activities, i.e. the closest to the
business
use it gets is writing our resumes in Word.

Can I legally install second license on my other desktop?

It would be unfair if Microsoft required purchase of a second
license.



:

No, that is not a legal use of Office.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



For say my brother, sister & myself each have a PC can we load
our
individual
PC

:

You mean the part about installing on the PCs of 3 members of
the
same
household?

smbellani wrote:

when the products says for upto 03 PCs , does it means one can
install
onto
03 PCS beloging to 03 individuals , or it just meant to be licensed
to
01
individual having 03 PCs
 
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