losing server connection mid-stream

[mv]

Hi again all you FP know-it-alls! I just cannot seem to
get this problem solved. It still seems to be some type
of setting that relates to connection to my web-host's
server. This is what is happening:

1. When I first open FP, it says: "An error occurred
processing your FP web files. Authors, if authoring
against a web server, contact the webmaster for this
server's site. Webmasters, please see the server's system
log for more details." I then have to go to the File menu
and go down to recent webs and then open it that way. It
will usually do it this way but sometimes I have to try it
a couple of times. The only time this error does not come
up is when I close FP and then IMMEDIATELY open it again.

2. This brings me to the 2nd problem, which seems
related. Once I have opened FP and am working, I can do
anything I need to do as long as I am quick and saving
pages regularly. If I have a page open and then for some
reason don't save quickly enough, the connection seems to
get lost and FP just runs and runs and then I have to End
Task and I lose anything I've been doing.

Is this some sort of setting issue? My web host has tried
to look from his end and he doesn't see anything that
could be causing the problem. (He has current extensions
installed, etc. etc.) When I went to Proxy Settings,
Connections, LAN settings, no boxes were checked. Is this
as it should be? Also, I found an option to "use passive
FTP" . . . should this be checked?

Any insight? Thanks so much in advance,

Michelle

 

[Jim Buyens]

-----Original Message-----

Hi again all you FP know-it-alls!

Howdy and many apologies if, by responding, I appear vain.

Try this:

o In Windows Explorer, find and delete all FP Temp Files.
By default, these reside in
C:\Documents and Settings\username\
Local Settings\Temp\FrontPageTempDir.
o In Windows Explorer, find and delete all hidden *.web
files .
o In Windows Explorer, find and delete the cmdui.prf
file.

If that doesn't solve the problem, please post again to
this thread and include:

o The size of your Web site, in total bytes and number
of files.
o The type and speed of your network connection.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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[mv]

Hi--you're not vain at all . . . I should have put a
little (tee hee) in there with that opener! sorry if I
offended!

Here's what happened:

Try this:

o In Windows Explorer, find and delete all FP Temp Files.
By default, these reside in
C:\Documents and Settings\username\
Local Settings\Temp\FrontPageTempDir.

My FrontPageTempDir was under WINNT and it contained no
files.

o In Windows Explorer, find and delete all hidden *.web
files .

I did a search and there were no *.web files, though I
don't know if there's something special needing to be done
for "hidden" files

o In Windows Explorer, find and delete the cmdui.prf
file.

And, there was no cmdui.prf file to be found . . . .

As for the size of the site, it is 62,773,352 bytes and
has 2056 files, 80 folders.

We have a cable connection and I don't know any further
specs. about this, but I could find out.

Here is my email address if you need to contact me for any
other detailed info. ([email protected]); or,
I'll check back here later. Thanks for your help!

Michelle

 

[Jim Buyens]

Hi--you're not vain at all . . . I should have put a
little (tee hee) in there with that opener! sorry if I
offended!

Here's what happened:

My FrontPageTempDir was under WINNT and it contained no
files.


I did a search and there were no *.web files, though I
don't know if there's something special needing to be done
for "hidden" files

In Windows XP:
1. Open My Computer.
2. Right-click drive C: and choose Search.
3. In the All Or Part Of The File Name box, enter .web.
4. Click the More Advanced Options icon (a little circle
with two down-arrows).
5. Select: Search System Folders.
Search Hidden Files And Folders
Search Subfolders
6. Click OK.

And, there was no cmdui.prf file to be found . . . .

As above, but in step 3, enter cmdui.prf.

The most common location on Windows 2000 and Windows XP machines is
Documents and Settings\user name\Application
Data\Microsoft\FrontPage\State

Application Data is a hidden folder. To view it in Windows Explorer:
1. Choose Folder Options from the Tools menu.
2. Click the View tab.
3. Under Advanced Settings, Files and Folders, Hidden Files and
Folders,
select Show Hidden Files and Folders.

As for the size of the site, it is 62,773,352 bytes and
has 2056 files, 80 folders.

That's way too big. I strongly encourage you to split this site into
8-12 smaller ones: that is, a root web and a bunch of subwebs.

This is going to be a lot of work, but it will have many benefits.

We have a cable connection and I don't know any further
specs. about this, but I could find out.

That helps the oversized-Web problem, but won't overcome it
completely. Surely there's some way of breaking those 2056 files
into logical units.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------

 

[Guest]

Hi Jim--thanks for your responses. I did go back in and
delete the .web files and the cmdui.prf files, but I still
didn't find any files or folders under under Documents and
Settings\username\ApplicationData\Microsoft\FrontPage\State

So as far as setting up subwebs, I would like to go ahead
and proceed. The help files talk about it minimally. How
is this actually helping the size problem if they are all
subwebs? I don't really get it (surprise). And will
subwebs work the same way (are the subwebs just like
direct links?)

 

[Jim Buyens]

Hi Jim--thanks for your responses. I did go back in and
delete the .web files and the cmdui.prf files, but I still
didn't find any files or folders under under Documents and
Settings\username\ApplicationData\Microsoft\FrontPage\State

So as far as setting up subwebs, I would like to go ahead
and proceed. The help files talk about it minimally. How
is this actually helping the size problem if they are all
subwebs? I don't really get it (surprise). And will
subwebs work the same way (are the subwebs just like
direct links?)

Well, if you have a Zoo Web site with 2056 files, maybe you could
break it down into:

o A root web with 56 files.
o A Reptiles subweb with 550 files.
o A Birds subweb with 450 files.
o A Mammals subweb with 600 files.
o A Marine subweb with 400 files.

Then, when you publish, or recalculate hyperlinks, or apply a Theme,
or do anything else that affects a whole web, you only have to process
at most 600 files at a time. And that avoids timeouts that may be
occurring with 2056 files.

Breaking a large web into subwebs does, however, take some planning
and testing. This is because the root webs and each subseb are
quite independent from each other. They can't share the same Nav
view, for example, and if you move or rename a file on one subweb,
FrontPage won't fix links in the other webs. That's why you should
organize your content under the appropraite folders first, and only
then convert the folders to subwebs. If you do this properly, the
dependencies that cross Web boundaries will be few and clearly
defined.

This can be a lot of work, but if 2056 files are failing now, imagine
how much worse the problem (and the cure) will be at 3,000 or 5,000
files.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------

 

[mv]

Hi and thanks for the message. I am going to try and get
this going at some point . . . the only books I have are
for FP2000, so I am going to try and pick up a newer one.
I found your book on ebay - I assume it comes highly
recommended? (tee hee again) Can you tell me, does it
have detailed info. on setting up subwebs? I did go into
tools/server/admin.home yesterday just to check it out,
and I'm a little nervous about the whole thing--I'm hoping
that a book will guide me thru the process.

 

[Jim Buyens]

Hi and thanks for the message. I am going to try and get
this going at some point . . . the only books I have are
for FP2000, so I am going to try and pick up a newer one.
I found your book on ebay - I assume it comes highly
recommended? (tee hee again)

Yes, highly.

Can you tell me, does it have detailed info. on setting up subwebs?
Yes.

I did go into tools/server/admin.home yesterday just to check it
out, and I'm a little nervous about the whole thing--I'm hoping
that a book will guide me thru the process.

Setting up a subweb is easy; for example, you can just right-click
a new or existing folder, and choose Convert To Web. You can also
use FrontPage menu commands, or the FPSE Admin pages.

Segregating you content cleanly and accurate is, of course, a
manual process, and much more challenging.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------