Microsoft should publish versions of its software for Linux users.

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brbm

Microsoft should publish versions of its software (particularly its Office
software) for use by users of Linux based OS. It seems to me that Microsoft
is missing a significant market by turning its back on Linux. Rather than
trying to edge it out, Microsoft should capitalize on it. Linux isn't going
to go away, so ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist is ridiculous.
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Linux users want everything free and open source, and as many Linux users
would have us believe that OpenOffice is just as good, I see little point in
your statement..
 
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XS11E

Linux users want everything free and open source, and as many
Linux users would have us believe that OpenOffice is just as good,
I see little point in your statement..

Open Office IS just as good for many users such as myself. It lacks
some things that MS Office has but many of us never need those advanced
features.
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

brbm said:
Microsoft should publish versions of its software (particularly its Office
software) for use by users of Linux based OS. It seems to me that
Microsoft
is missing a significant market by turning its back on Linux. Rather than
trying to edge it out, Microsoft should capitalize on it. Linux isn't
going
to go away, so ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist is ridiculous.

Just to quantify this "... significant market ..." you speak of.

The installed Windows user base is significantly larger then the Linux PC
user community. And that Linux community actually shrinks when you look at
the figures for PCs shipped with Linux where according to
http://news.com.com/Desktop+Linux+a+vehicle+for+pirating+Windows/2100-1016_3-5388863.html
and
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/windows/0,39020396,39168398,00.htm
40% of all preinstalled Linux PCs will be reinstalled with a pirated copy of
Windows and in emerging markets this is as high a 80%.

Also there are issues with the licensing model for applications on Linux as
well as many Linux users perception about what they should pay for software
that costs us Billions of Dollars per year to develop.

Having said that - we are a business so where there is opportunity we may
well investigate.

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Regards,

Mike
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Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
newsgroups
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Have you taken the time to look at any of the website URL's that you posted
to me..

Many companies and institutions already use UNIX/AIX running on hugely
expensive equipment.. I would wager that UNIX/AIX is losing out to Linux
because the hardware that runs Linux is way cheaper and almost as good at
doing specific tasks..

Apple Computers have absolutely no desire to use MS Windows..

IBM already have AIX, and had OS2 been worth anything, the company would
never have used MS Windows corporately.. unfortunately for IBM, they will
have a tougher time selling their AIX based mid range computing systems as
pc based servers running Linux are much more affordable.. and I believe that
the corporate workstation platform is W2K..

Percentages mean not a whole hell of a lot..

None of the uses of Linux as above require an Office suite.. so that brings
us back to the casual Linux user/supporter who uses Linux because it isn't
Microsoft.. who uses Linux because it is free.. who uses Linux because
he/she believes that it makes a person appear to be more technically able..

Notice that at no point have I made a statement that Linux has no place
anywhere.. all OS'es have their place..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
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Bob I

I'm sure that when the installed base and market is large enough to
justify the programing expense, you will see a version released.
Microsoft is after all in the business to make money.
 
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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

You miss the point here. Microsoft has a huge interest in maintaining the
integrity of its intellectual property. The GPL and other licenses that
govern open source software would provide no protection for any software
that Microsoft would write nor would there be any recourse for reverse
engineering their software to enable it to run on linux.

You want to marry apples and oranges but it is not going to happen, at least
not soon. If there is a compelling reason for Microsoft to make this move,
which at present there is NOT, then they may consider it.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, brbm asked:

| Can't see the forest for the trees I take it. The point I was getting
| at is that many profile companies in many markets are embracing Linux
| at an ever growing rate. I believe Microsofts tunel vision will
| eventually lead to its own self consumption unless it chooses to
| adapt rather than conquer because, as you have said, every OS has its
| place. And, as I said, Linux isn't going away. I believe the number
| of people using Linux will continue to grow and Microsoft can
| capitalize on this by providing high quality applications designed
| for the Linux market.
|
| As Far as Linux users wanting everything free and open source...well,
| doesn't everyone?
|
| "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
|
|| Have you taken the time to look at any of the website URL's that you
|| posted to me..
||
|| Many companies and institutions already use UNIX/AIX running on
|| hugely expensive equipment.. I would wager that UNIX/AIX is losing
|| out to Linux because the hardware that runs Linux is way cheaper and
|| almost as good at doing specific tasks..
||
|| Apple Computers have absolutely no desire to use MS Windows..
||
|| IBM already have AIX, and had OS2 been worth anything, the company
|| would never have used MS Windows corporately.. unfortunately for
|| IBM, they will have a tougher time selling their AIX based mid range
|| computing systems as pc based servers running Linux are much more
|| affordable.. and I believe that the corporate workstation platform
|| is W2K..
||
|| Percentages mean not a whole hell of a lot..
||
|| None of the uses of Linux as above require an Office suite.. so that
|| brings us back to the casual Linux user/supporter who uses Linux
|| because it isn't Microsoft.. who uses Linux because it is free.. who
|| uses Linux because he/she believes that it makes a person appear to
|| be more technically able..
||
|| Notice that at no point have I made a statement that Linux has no
|| place anywhere.. all OS'es have their place..
||
|| --
|| Mike Hall
|| MVP - Windows Shell/user
||
||
||
||
||
||
||
|| ||| Perhaps you are talking of the U.S. Department of Energy when you
||| say "Linux
||| users want everything free and open source"
|||
http://home.businesswire.com/portal...d=news_view&newsId=20050202005043&newsLang=en
||| Or are you talking of AOL or Apple Computer?
||| http://news.com.com/2100-1040-237031.html?legacy=cnet
||| You could be speeking of IBM...
||| http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/
||| With respect to value...
||| http://www.cioinsight.com/article2/0,1397,1743237,00.asp
||| "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
|||
|||| Linux users want everything free and open source, and as many
|||| Linux users would have us believe that OpenOffice is just as good,
|||| I see little point in
|||| your statement..
||||
|||| --
|||| Mike Hall
|||| MVP - Windows Shell/user
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
||||
|||| ||||| Microsoft should publish versions of its software (particularly
||||| its Office
||||| software) for use by users of Linux based OS. It seems to me that
||||| Microsoft
||||| is missing a significant market by turning its back on Linux.
||||| Rather than
||||| trying to edge it out, Microsoft should capitalize on it. Linux
||||| isn't going
||||| to go away, so ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist is
||||| ridiculous.
 
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VMS4Ever

I'd just like to point out that Outlook follows the Unix philosophy better
than any PIM available on Linux (not including Emacs as a PIM.) That is, it
is insanely customizable. It can even be scripted from Perl, for goodness
sakes !

And that is why I'd be happy to buy a copy of Outlook for Linux, should it
ever become available.
 

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