Mime Format

L

lmstuter

I recently upgraded to Vista OS, installing Office 2003 programs. I now have
a problem, in the Outlook 2003 e-mail program, receiving MIME formatted
messages.

I've searched and searched through my options and properties windows and
find no cure for this problem.

Any ideas?
 
B

Brian Tillman

lmstuter said:
I recently upgraded to Vista OS, installing Office 2003 programs. I
now have a problem, in the Outlook 2003 e-mail program, receiving
MIME formatted messages.

I've searched and searched through my options and properties windows
and find no cure for this problem.
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Depending on the nature of the problem (you have a significant lack of
details), there may be nothing you can do about it at this time. There is a
condition that when you receive a message via Bcc, that you will see the raw
message instead of the rendered message and perhaps that's what you're
seeing. I've told Microsoft about it and they're investigating. If you
send me some screen shots of the problem and a statement as to which mail
editor and reader you're using (i.e., do you use Word as your mail editor
and to read messages), I'll pass them to Microsoft. Use the address with
which I posted this reply.
 
L

lmstuter

Brian Tillman said:
Depending on the nature of the problem (you have a significant lack of
details), there may be nothing you can do about it at this time. There is a
condition that when you receive a message via Bcc, that you will see the raw
message instead of the rendered message and perhaps that's what you're
seeing. I've told Microsoft about it and they're investigating. If you
send me some screen shots of the problem and a statement as to which mail
editor and reader you're using (i.e., do you use Word as your mail editor
and to read messages), I'll pass them to Microsoft. Use the address with
which I posted this reply.
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I'm using Office 2003 Word as my editor/reader. I sent you an e-mail with a
"screen shot" of the problem under sepearate cover which looks like this:

Return-Path: <(deleted)@sbcglobal.net>
X-Original-To: (e-mail address removed)
Delivered-To: (e-mail address removed)
Received: from mail.my180.net (mail.my180.net [216.229.188.250])
by mail.icehouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AD86015D
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:51:51 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 10630 invoked by uid 110); 21 Jan 2008 00:58:45 -0000
Delivered-To: (e-mail address removed)
Received: (qmail 10626 invoked by uid 110); 21 Jan 2008 00:58:45 -0000
Received: from mxa.go180.net (216.229.188.254)
by mail.my180.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2008 00:58:45 -0000
Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com
(smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.202])
by mxa.go180.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F093A5A2
for <[email protected]>; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:03:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 34799 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2008 00:56:39 -0000
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net;

h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;

b=OTVkfpDJJh40vu6Oy44cVeszX3Tiu+eP/bsHgXK0jnj5ZbWxfwstEdM1CVyIsgNEY3CV1Jx1K4//C9CXDmzZO7dG9Il0phU5Pewg2XQpP4I/4VqLofYgLrQfZWcPsXAWnJlkHSDFEG6rqtyQa7KXscJPR/H+Wbtjx1nNIwHo59M= ;
Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.64?)
((deleted)@[email protected] with plain)
by smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2008 00:56:39 -0000
X-YMail-OSG:
qa7HyAgVM1ki.VEm0isL9CN_P3Sjk1M4jCVEHyd6QZb0PDVAIPZogCtyRqflFwvSWPARxlCtQ2Ri.NXsr3ovsvf3HlUHEfo4mE7c
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:56:26 -0600
From: (deleted) <(deleted)@sbcglobal.net>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: This is hilarious
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3243" name="GENERATOR">
<style></style>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
<br>
<br>

I cannot say for sure that this e-mail was sent to me via the BCC field but
it likely that such is the case.

The problem appears to be between Vista and Office 2003 Outlook.
 
L

lmstuter

Brian Tillman said:
Depending on the nature of the problem (you have a significant lack of
details), there may be nothing you can do about it at this time. There is a
condition that when you receive a message via Bcc, that you will see the raw
message instead of the rendered message and perhaps that's what you're
seeing. I've told Microsoft about it and they're investigating. If you
send me some screen shots of the problem and a statement as to which mail
editor and reader you're using (i.e., do you use Word as your mail editor
and to read messages), I'll pass them to Microsoft. Use the address with
which I posted this reply.
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In answer your questions on the Microsoft forum; follows the header on one
of the e-mails I am receiving that has the MIME format problem. This header
is actually the first thing you see when opening the e-mail where there is a
MIME format problem

Return-Path: <(deleted)@earthlink.net>

X-Original-To: (e-mail address removed)

Delivered-To: (e-mail address removed)

Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net
(elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70])

by mail.icehouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432CF609DE

for <[email protected]>; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:38:59 -0800 (PST)

DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;

s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net;

b=tgDfbGsI6E89tss0AcCaTlsTwHBxj56cujTqHgpyHoEueY6iHS5L+ww1dseYRsgy;


h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;

Received: from [4.225.97.143] (helo=earthlink.net)

by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67)

(envelope-from <(deleted)@earthlink.net>)

id 1JH2Vj-0001cH-IS; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:40:49 -0500

Message-ID: <[email protected]>

X-Priority: 3

Reply-To: (deleted)@earthlink.net

X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.3.14.0 (Windows)

From: "Julie (deleted)" <(deleted)@earthlink.net>

Subject: DOI USBR Budget Justifications - FY08

Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:41:03 -0500

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary="----=_NextPart_102916212577219413347"

X-ELNK-Trace:
cf402b0c9a5921b508d0186b38e530c794f5150ab1c16ac04d04932202c5b85ba54a5fe3c663b1726b4a0307004c287c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c

X-Originating-IP: 4.225.97.143

To: undisclosed-recipients:;



------=_NextPart_102916212577219413347

Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII



This is followed by a text version of the actual message (rendered message),
followed by the same message showing HTML coding (raw message).

There is no way of knowing, either from the above or from the actual e-mail
itself, if this is coming in with my e-mail address in the “bcc†field. I
would presume, as this individual sends out e-mail to a number of people,
that such is the case. However, I do not know that to be the case.

On a similar e-mail coming in, in MIME format, when I contacted the sender
and he responded to me, individually, there was no problem.

I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Word as my e-mail reader/editor program.

It appears to me, looking at the forum postings, that a lot of people are
experiencing this problem. I did not experience this problem until I changed
my OS to Vista from XP Pro.
 
B

Brian Tillman

lmstuter said:
I cannot say for sure that this e-mail was sent to me via the BCC
field but it likely that such is the case.
Click to expand...

Since the "To" field contains "undisclosed-recipients", it's likely.
I sent you an e-mail with a "screen shot" of the problem under sepearate
cover
which looks like this:
Click to expand...

Thanks. I've received several from various people and I've forwarded them
to my Microsoft contact. They've been trying to reproduce the problem and
so far have failed. If you could, send me a copy of the message as an
attached .msg file. Include what type of account you're using (looks like a
Yahoo POP account to me).
 
L

lmstuter

Brian Tillman said:
Since the "To" field contains "undisclosed-recipients", it's likely.


Thanks. I've received several from various people and I've forwarded them
to my Microsoft contact. They've been trying to reproduce the problem and
so far have failed. If you could, send me a copy of the message as an
attached .msg file. Include what type of account you're using (looks like a
Yahoo POP account to me).
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No, I am not using a Yahoo POP account. What the sender is using, I can't
say. It appears, however, that his IP is sbcglobal.net while mine is
icehouse.net In the second header I sent you, posted below, the sender IP is
earthlink.com.

Receiving no answer to my two reply posts, which were actually written on
1/21/2008, not posted until 1/22/2008, apparently late, I called Microsoft
direct yesterday. They tell me they are working on the problem. I hope that
is for real. Considering that Vista came on the market in late 2006, I can't
think this problem just occurred recently but has been a problem all along,
between Vista and Office 2003 Outlook.
 
B

Brian Tillman

lmstuter said:
No, I am not using a Yahoo POP account. What the sender is using, I
can't say. It appears, however, that his IP is sbcglobal.net while
mine is icehouse.net In the second header I sent you, posted below,
the sender IP is earthlink.com.
Click to expand...

Fine, but you still didn't say if it is a POP account.
 
L

lmstuter

Brian Tillman said:
Did you send me an example msg file?
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I sent you the actual message, two of them, showing the expanded header
contained in the message. My Outlook saves e-mails as .pst files, not .msg
files. I can forward e-mails to you, attaching them isn't possible that I
know of.
 
B

Brian Tillman

lmstuter said:
I sent you the actual message, two of them, showing the expanded
header contained in the message. My Outlook saves e-mails as .pst
files, not .msg files. I can forward e-mails to you, attaching them
isn't possible that I know of.
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Open a new message, using my address as the recipient. Drag the message in
question from the Inbox to the new message window. It will attach as a .msg
file. Sent it to me.
 

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