Moving site

K

Ken

Using FP2000. I'm moving my site to another server and want to have a page
on my old site that automatically directs. How do I do this?

Thanks, Ken
 
D

David Baxter

Except change that "1 to a "10 or even "30 -- some search engines
reportedly view anything less than 10 seconds, or in one case 30
seconds, as an attempt to deceive - besides, 10 seconds gives your
visitor a chance to see what's happening:

<META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT="10;
URL=http://www.yoursite.com/yourpage.htm">
 
M

MD Websunlimited

Hi David,

Is there an authoritative reference for this comment?

If you're moving your site from one domain name to another you've hosed your search engine standings in the any case.
 
S

Steve Easton

Moving shouldn't affect your search engine standings one bit, as the name
servers still point the "domain" to the IP, just a different IP

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MD Websunlimited said:
Hi David,

Is there an authoritative reference for this comment?

If you're moving your site from one domain name to another you've hosed
your search engine standings in the any case.
 
D

David Baxter

Steve is correct - if done correctly, you should not lose any SE
standings.

As to the source, I am trying to locate it - Google's advice to
webmasters recommends using the "301 Moved Permanently" method but (1)
for many people this may not be an option, depending on their host, and
(2) I don't like it as much because it isn't as informative to visitors.
You can have a look at an example of how I've implemented the refresh
tag at http://www.psychlinks.ca/psychlinks.htm - this has the advantage
of telling visitors what's happening and reminding them to change their
bookmarks and it provides the delay preferred by some search engines as
well.

There is a definitive source for the 10 - 30 second guideline (one of
the Search Engine gurus, a female I think, maybe Jill Whalen or Shari
Thurow...) but I'm having trouble locating it right now - in the
meantime, here is another article that make the point and gives the
rationale:

http://www.search-marketing.info/meta-tags/meta-refresh.htm

Also note that if the Refresh value is low (e.g., 1-4 seconds) it
effectively disables the back button which is going to annoy your
visitors - and annoying visitors is not usually the point of a website,
especially a commercial site!



MD Websunlimited said:
Hi David,

Is there an authoritative reference for this comment?

If you're moving your site from one domain name to another you've
hosed your search engine standings in the any case.
 
S

Steve Easton

Actually if the domain name and all pages and links stay the same, moving to
a new IP doesn't even require folks to update bookmarks.
The move will be totally transparent to visitors.
The instant the name servers register the new IP info, the old IP will never
get another hit, and the redirect page is no longer needed

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
D

David Baxter

Yes... the redirection is only necessary if the domain name (URL) or the
page name changes.
 
M

MD Websunlimited

My point exactly Steve. Move from one server to another should have no effect on your listing provide you maintain the same domain
name.
 
M

MD Websunlimited

Did you read my response? Apparently it was at least not understood. I said, "moving your site from one domain name to another.."
another being a different domain name.

If you keep the same domain name obviously there will not be any consequences.
 
M

MD Websunlimited

Again, if the domain name has *not* changed then there are no consequences at the search engines for the move.

If you moved the site to another domain name then using a 301 would tell the search engines that the links in the search engines
indices need to be changed. Meta refresh produces a 304.

Most of the time what webmasters are trying to accomplish is to fill in the delay as the new IP address from a server (WPP) move is
propagated to the DNS servers. If that is all you wish to accomplish then using a Meta with a time delay of 1 or even 0 is perfectly
expectable. I've moved our sites several times without any difficulty at the SE.

P.S. there is no reason the visitor has to update their bookmarks as the domain name has not changed an thus the bookmarks are
correct. The visitors need to know nothing.
 
S

Steve Easton

Sorry Mike I did mis-read it.
I read it as moving the domain to another server.
Instead of changing domains.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

MD Websunlimited said:
Did you read my response? Apparently it was at least not understood. I
said, "moving your site from one domain name to another.."
 
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