Office 2007 Backward Compatible

B

b

Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
S

Sairy

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or do I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
 
E

Echo S

In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

Milly Staples said:
Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
S

Sairy

Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

Echo S said:
In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

Milly Staples said:
Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
E

Echo S

Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

Echo S said:
In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
with the PST just fine.

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--------------
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Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

Echo S said:
In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
E

Echo S

Thanks, Patrick.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Patrick Schmid said:
Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
with the PST just fine.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
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Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But
when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button
|
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for
me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word
development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to
get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't
be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the
document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider
saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to
install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify
that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can
shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to
the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to
notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am
sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases
are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different
consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have
my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the
features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

:

In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format
so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack,
which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP
applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format
or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can
I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
S

Sairy

Thanks Echo. Looks like I may take 2007 out for a test drive. some of the
features are very attractive.

I convert to pdf a lot (I have Adobe) when I send 'stuff' to various
entities because I'm never sure of their capabilities but this may make it
easier.

Thanks for your help.


Echo S said:
Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

Echo S said:
In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
S

Sairy

Thanks Patrick.

I see that you are a OneNote MVP. I've been using OneNote since it came
out, even before I had a tablet pc. I love it. But I saw some disconcerting
things on the OneNote conversations re 2007 not being able to revert to 2003.
Any advice?

Patrick Schmid said:
Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
with the PST just fine.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
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Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

:

In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
S

Sairy

Thanks Patrick.

I see that you are a OneNote MVP. I've been using OneNote since it came
out, even before I had a tablet pc. I love it. But I saw some disconcerting
things on the OneNote conversations re 2007 not being able to revert to 2003.
Any advice?


Patrick Schmid said:
Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
with the PST just fine.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
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Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Sairy said:
Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

:

In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
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After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

Yes, you cannot revert back. But that is really a non-issue. Once you
used 2007, you just don't want to go back to 2003.

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Thanks Patrick.

I see that you are a OneNote MVP. I've been using OneNote since it came
out, even before I had a tablet pc. I love it. But I saw some disconcerting
things on the OneNote conversations re 2007 not being able to revert to 2003.
Any advice?


Patrick Schmid said:
Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
with the PST just fine.

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Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

:

In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
do
I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

:

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
 
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