Office 2007 Launch Delayed

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi,

In theory it will be "true PDF" although few people understand the fine
details of the PDF format and wouldn't know one from the other until it
was too late, but then most people don't use it for it's true purpose
and instead treat it as a botched alternative to authoring with HTML. In
this context Microsoft's version will be perfect, but if we're talking
it's use in commercial publishing and print, it's hard to say - it's
unlikely Microsoft will offer the advanced interface as it would scare
the kind of users they are marketing at.

One thing it's worth understanding about PDF is the difference between
"printing" to PDF and actually turning a document into a PDF document.
You can "print" from any Windows app to PDF using free tools, even for
professional work, and it will open in a PDF reader just fine, but the
"big deal" about using MS Office with Acrobat, is that you can embed
bookmarks into the document and create a TOC and the document will be
search-able. and Microsoft's new PDF will almost certainly offer this too.

But forget all that, the bigger deal is OpenDocument and Microsoft's
bungling proprietary alternative, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

As far as I know Microsoft are talking about back-tracking regarding the
licensing issues, but my guess is that Microsoft's version will end up
limited in some way.

Is it compatible to the existing PDF or is it a MS Version of PDF?
I heard a year ago that MS needed something compatible to PDF for folks that
do web stuff. They are trying to grab the market share from Adobe.

I read that with Office 2007, you will be able to create PDFs. That's a
handy little tool especially if you don't have to download another program
because you don't want to buy Adobe.

Perhaps this is why it was called Office 2007 and not Office 2006!!
They knew it all along that demand/expectation for the product is very
low if none at all! Why should they release a product which no one
would buy?

Is there anything in Office 2007 which Office 2003 can't do? I doubt
very much apart from nice blue screens and fat price!



JCO wrote:
I thought last week was just the announcement on Vista.
Thanks anyway.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old news, announced last week.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Tim asked:

| Interesting but expected:
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/tc_nm/microsoft_office_dc

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi,

In theory it will be "true PDF" although few people understand the fine
details of the PDF format and wouldn't know one from the other until it
was too late, but then most people don't use it for it's true purpose
and instead treat it as a botched alternative to authoring with HTML. In
this context Microsoft's version will be perfect, but if we're talking
it's use in commercial publishing and print, it's hard to say - it's
unlikely Microsoft will offer the advanced interface as it would scare
the kind of users they are marketing at.

One thing it's worth understanding about PDF is the difference between
"printing" to PDF and actually turning a document into a PDF document.
You can "print" from any Windows app to PDF using free tools, even for
professional work, and it will open in a PDF reader just fine, but the
"big deal" about using MS Office with Acrobat, is that you can embed
bookmarks into the document and create a TOC and the document will be
search-able. and Microsoft's new PDF will almost certainly offer this too.

But forget all that, the bigger deal is OpenDocument and Microsoft's
bungling proprietary alternative, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

As far as I know Microsoft are talking about back-tracking regarding the
licensing issues, but my guess is that Microsoft's version will end up
limited in some way.

Is it compatible to the existing PDF or is it a MS Version of PDF?
I heard a year ago that MS needed something compatible to PDF for folks that
do web stuff. They are trying to grab the market share from Adobe.

I read that with Office 2007, you will be able to create PDFs. That's a
handy little tool especially if you don't have to download another program
because you don't want to buy Adobe.

Perhaps this is why it was called Office 2007 and not Office 2006!!
They knew it all along that demand/expectation for the product is very
low if none at all! Why should they release a product which no one
would buy?

Is there anything in Office 2007 which Office 2003 can't do? I doubt
very much apart from nice blue screens and fat price!



JCO wrote:
I thought last week was just the announcement on Vista.
Thanks anyway.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old news, announced last week.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Tim asked:

| Interesting but expected:
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/tc_nm/microsoft_office_dc

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi,

In theory it will be "true PDF" although few people understand the fine
details of the PDF format and wouldn't know one from the other until it
was too late, but then most people don't use it for it's true purpose
and instead treat it as a botched alternative to authoring with HTML. In
this context Microsoft's version will be perfect, but if we're talking
it's use in commercial publishing and print, it's hard to say - it's
unlikely Microsoft will offer the advanced interface as it would scare
the kind of users they are marketing at.

One thing it's worth understanding about PDF is the difference between
"printing" to PDF and actually turning a document into a PDF document.
You can "print" from any Windows app to PDF using free tools, even for
professional work, and it will open in a PDF reader just fine, but the
"big deal" about using MS Office with Acrobat, is that you can embed
bookmarks into the document and create a TOC and the document will be
search-able. and Microsoft's new PDF will almost certainly offer this too.

But forget all that, the bigger deal is OpenDocument and Microsoft's
bungling proprietary alternative, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

As far as I know Microsoft are talking about back-tracking regarding the
licensing issues, but my guess is that Microsoft's version will end up
limited in some way.

Is it compatible to the existing PDF or is it a MS Version of PDF?
I heard a year ago that MS needed something compatible to PDF for folks that
do web stuff. They are trying to grab the market share from Adobe.

I read that with Office 2007, you will be able to create PDFs. That's a
handy little tool especially if you don't have to download another program
because you don't want to buy Adobe.

Perhaps this is why it was called Office 2007 and not Office 2006!!
They knew it all along that demand/expectation for the product is very
low if none at all! Why should they release a product which no one
would buy?

Is there anything in Office 2007 which Office 2003 can't do? I doubt
very much apart from nice blue screens and fat price!



JCO wrote:
I thought last week was just the announcement on Vista.
Thanks anyway.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old news, announced last week.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Tim asked:

| Interesting but expected:
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/tc_nm/microsoft_office_dc

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi,

In theory it will be "true PDF" although few people understand the fine
details of the PDF format and wouldn't know one from the other until it
was too late, but then most people don't use it for it's true purpose
and instead treat it as a botched alternative to authoring with HTML. In
this context Microsoft's version will be perfect, but if we're talking
it's use in commercial publishing and print, it's hard to say - it's
unlikely Microsoft will offer the advanced interface as it would scare
the kind of users they are marketing at.

One thing it's worth understanding about PDF is the difference between
"printing" to PDF and actually turning a document into a PDF document.
You can "print" from any Windows app to PDF using free tools, even for
professional work, and it will open in a PDF reader just fine, but the
"big deal" about using MS Office with Acrobat, is that you can embed
bookmarks into the document and create a TOC and the document will be
search-able. and Microsoft's new PDF will almost certainly offer this too.

But forget all that, the bigger deal is OpenDocument and Microsoft's
bungling proprietary alternative, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

As far as I know Microsoft are talking about back-tracking regarding the
licensing issues, but my guess is that Microsoft's version will end up
limited in some way.

Is it compatible to the existing PDF or is it a MS Version of PDF?
I heard a year ago that MS needed something compatible to PDF for folks that
do web stuff. They are trying to grab the market share from Adobe.

I read that with Office 2007, you will be able to create PDFs. That's a
handy little tool especially if you don't have to download another program
because you don't want to buy Adobe.

Perhaps this is why it was called Office 2007 and not Office 2006!!
They knew it all along that demand/expectation for the product is very
low if none at all! Why should they release a product which no one
would buy?

Is there anything in Office 2007 which Office 2003 can't do? I doubt
very much apart from nice blue screens and fat price!



JCO wrote:
I thought last week was just the announcement on Vista.
Thanks anyway.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old news, announced last week.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Tim asked:

| Interesting but expected:
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/tc_nm/microsoft_office_dc

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi,

In theory it will be "true PDF" although few people understand the fine
details of the PDF format and wouldn't know one from the other until it
was too late, but then most people don't use it for it's true purpose
and instead treat it as a botched alternative to authoring with HTML. In
this context Microsoft's version will be perfect, but if we're talking
it's use in commercial publishing and print, it's hard to say - it's
unlikely Microsoft will offer the advanced interface as it would scare
the kind of users they are marketing at.

One thing it's worth understanding about PDF is the difference between
"printing" to PDF and actually turning a document into a PDF document.
You can "print" from any Windows app to PDF using free tools, even for
professional work, and it will open in a PDF reader just fine, but the
"big deal" about using MS Office with Acrobat, is that you can embed
bookmarks into the document and create a TOC and the document will be
search-able. and Microsoft's new PDF will almost certainly offer this too.

But forget all that, the bigger deal is OpenDocument and Microsoft's
bungling proprietary alternative, see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

As far as I know Microsoft are talking about back-tracking regarding the
licensing issues, but my guess is that Microsoft's version will end up
limited in some way.

Is it compatible to the existing PDF or is it a MS Version of PDF?
I heard a year ago that MS needed something compatible to PDF for folks that
do web stuff. They are trying to grab the market share from Adobe.

I read that with Office 2007, you will be able to create PDFs. That's a
handy little tool especially if you don't have to download another program
because you don't want to buy Adobe.

Perhaps this is why it was called Office 2007 and not Office 2006!!
They knew it all along that demand/expectation for the product is very
low if none at all! Why should they release a product which no one
would buy?

Is there anything in Office 2007 which Office 2003 can't do? I doubt
very much apart from nice blue screens and fat price!



JCO wrote:
I thought last week was just the announcement on Vista.
Thanks anyway.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old news, announced last week.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Tim asked:

| Interesting but expected:
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/tc_nm/microsoft_office_dc

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Gerry,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/


--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

Pricing and Packages for '2007 Microsoft Office System'
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Gerry,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/


--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

Pricing and Packages for '2007 Microsoft Office System'
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Gerry,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/


--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

Pricing and Packages for '2007 Microsoft Office System'
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.

 

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Bob,

FWIW, you can read and post to the Blog of the team at Microsoft that designs and maintains the Office Open XML format
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/

Thanks for the link; it's one to watch.