Office 2007 on Terminal Server

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Figbash

I managed to install the beta on my Windows 2003 server no trouble, but then
when I actaully tried to start the apps I got told that this software
wouldn't work on a terminal server (though I note that it does work with
remote desktop under XP). When will support for terminal server make it into
the beta?
 
G

GABTGURL

I am guessing that this will ot be available until final **GOLD** release.
MVP's feel free to interject with the Microsoft view on this....
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Retail versions of Office 2007 will never work with Terminal Services - you
will need an Enterprise or Volume licensed edition for this to work.

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After furious head scratching, GABTGURL asked:

| I am guessing that this will ot be available until final **GOLD**
| release. MVP's feel free to interject with the Microsoft view on
| this....
|
| "Figbash" wrote:
|
|| I managed to install the beta on my Windows 2003 server no trouble,
|| but then when I actaully tried to start the apps I got told that
|| this software wouldn't work on a terminal server (though I note that
|| it does work with remote desktop under XP). When will support for
|| terminal server make it into the beta?
 
F

Figbash

WHAT!!!??? So how exactly will the small Terminal Services user be able to
work? Where do I buy the thing from if 'retail' versions won't work for me?
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Volume licenses are available in packages as small as 5 programs.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Figbash asked:

| WHAT!!!??? So how exactly will the small Terminal Services user be
| able to work? Where do I buy the thing from if 'retail' versions
| won't work for me?
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Retail versions of Office 2007 will never work with Terminal
|| Services - you will need an Enterprise or Volume licensed edition
|| for this to work.
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, GABTGURL asked:
||
||| I am guessing that this will ot be available until final **GOLD**
||| release. MVP's feel free to interject with the Microsoft view on
||| this....
|||
||| "Figbash" wrote:
|||
|||| I managed to install the beta on my Windows 2003 server no trouble,
|||| but then when I actaully tried to start the apps I got told that
|||| this software wouldn't work on a terminal server (though I note
|||| that it does work with remote desktop under XP). When will
|||| support for terminal server make it into the beta?
 
O

Offi07

Hi,
I also installed the Beta on our TS in order to TRY it in our environment
and test its behaviour in TS (graphic, speed, usability)... (that's what a
Beta is for, right?). Now, if I cannot verify that Office 2007 will work
perfectly in our environment and if I am not convinced by my own eyes, you
will never get me to tell our CFO that I want him to provide the money for
purchasing the new Office.

Come on, isn't there any possibility to convince the MS guys to provide a
copy which is TS ready, for us, the pitiable TS administrators?

Occasions like this one make me feel so wrong about defending MS software
against my Open Source colleagues...

Anyway, if anybody got an idea on how I could continue betaing what looked
so good until the featureisnotavailablepleasecontactyouradministrator-message
arrived, please tell me! :)

Thanks.
 
O

Offi07

Unfortunately, OpenOffice is no real alternative to MS Office, at least for
us - once you have trained all your users to get along with MS Office, you
cannot practically afford to retrain them for OpenOffice or similar (too
expensive and unpracticable and so on).
Furthermore all the new features of Office 2007 seem unsurpassed - so far :)

Anyway, is it so difficult for MS to just provide us with a TS-enabled copy
of Office 2007 Beta 2?
Hello? Anybody out there in Redmond or elsewhere hearing me?

Thank you!!!
 
R

RatCatcher

Totally agree - it is imperative that I trial Office 2007 in a TS environment
before I can justify purchasing the software - and I'm talking about 10,000
licenses.

There must be a way of allowing this to happen!
 
C

CarlosAl

Good ...

We have an Office 2003 volume license, and run it on a terminal server with
50 clients connected. It´s a school.
Can we use the Office 2003 volume licence number to make "Office 2007 BETA
TEST" work over the system? It´s just good for Microsoft, 500 students
testing their software evry single day!!
 
O

Offi07

I called Microsoft today on the phone.
It looks like there exist special "PID-keys", i.e. license keys, that you
have to enter upon installation instead of the given beta license key from
the e-mail. The point is that only non-activating copies of Office 2007 Beta
2 are TS-enabled. That means, copies that have to be activated, won't work on
TS. You can see that when you install such a copy on TS: Instead of the
activation window the error message appears, which can easily be suppressed
but it of course reappears on the next start of the respective application.
With the given standard keys from the beta website or e-mail, the office
products have to be activated. So, in order to avoid activation, you need to
enter one of that special volume keys that tells the beta that you have a
volume license which doesn't need to be activated.
Now, the problem is that the Microsoft people I reached on the phone don't
know anything else but what I wrote here above. They e.g. don't know where to
get those volume PID-keys from.
They told me there was another Beta 2 version called "Technical Beta" which
is in fact TS-enabled but only available for small circle of enterprise beta
testers, but they couldn't tell me where to get this beta from.
Seems a little bit like Microsoft tells their people only the theory (how
the whole license thing works) but they don't tell them the practice (where
to get the TS-enabled beta).
Maybe there is somebody here that knows a bit more or has a MS contact that
knows how to apply for these beta 2 volume keys.
It would be very important for me, and again I have to emphasize as well
that it obviously could not be bad for MS if there would be some 500 pupils
testing their software every day. Everyone that is related with a school's
networks administration knows that pupils have their very own ways to "test"
a software... :)

CarlosAl said:
Good ...

We have an Office 2003 volume license, and run it on a terminal server with
50 clients connected. It´s a school.
Can we use the Office 2003 volume licence number to make "Office 2007 BETA
TEST" work over the system? It´s just good for Microsoft, 500 students
testing their software evry single day!!
Click to expand...
....
 
R

RatCatcher

That's great Offi07 - I'm calling my account manager as I type! I will get
those PID keys!!
 
C

CarlosAl

Great tip Offi07, thanks a lot.
So, what do we have up to now:

1- There´s an Office 2007 Beta 2 version called "Technical Beta" which is
TS-enabled;
2- It doesn´t have to be activated, instead it has a special volume key (
PID-keys ?) that enables its use as a terminal server application;
3- It is only avaiable for "enterprise beta testers".

Of course Microsoft has right to make rules to regulate their new
applications software tests, but it is also obvious that it has to give their
clients the information they need to do a good job. Is this case we need:

If 1, 2 and 3 are true:

a- how can we become an "enterprise beta testers"?
b- where is the downloadable files of Office 2007 Technical Beta 2 version?
c- what is the special volume key?

If one of 1, 2 or 3 is not true:

a- where is the truth?

I need to build a new lab in my school, and I want good information for the
project, so I can decide the use of terminal clients or independent desktops.
If I go to terminal clients, I need to now the behavior of OFFICE 2007 in
this environment.

Besides, our experience shows that students turn to be partners when you
offer then the edge of technology. Even for a legal testing. If there´s 2.000
small schools around the word thinking like this, Microsoft could have
1.000.000 students "testing" software every day.

Or .... this politics (disable applications TS capabilities) may be a clear
message from Microsoft:

CLIENTS, FORGET IT ALL, GO BACK TO DESKTOPS :-0

Thanks again Offi07
 
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