Office 2011

[John]

I like the look of this new office and it will be great when the apps
dont take a minute to launch. Mike Rosenberg says that Office 2008 is
slower than 2004 on a Intel Mac, but I did not see this when I tested it
on another Mac running leopard. Maybe Mike means that Office 2008 is
slower on a Snow Leopard Mac over 2004. Regardless I look forward to the
new office 2011 and the new Outlook. Will it be as good as the PC
version?

Since Entourage 2004 seems a bit slower on my new Intel Mac over my now
dead Tiger PPC iBook, I have switched to using Mail. I hope that Outlook
2011 becomes the best Mac mail client. Any thoughts on this new version
and Outlook?


John

 

[Guest]

I like the look of this new office and it will be great when the apps
dont take a minute to launch. Mike Rosenberg says that Office 2008 is
slower than 2004 on a Intel Mac, but I did not see this when I tested it
on another Mac running leopard. Maybe Mike means that Office 2008 is
slower on a Snow Leopard Mac over 2004. Regardless I look forward to the
new office 2011 and the new Outlook. Will it be as good as the PC
version?

excel 2011 is slower than 2008, and microsoft is claiming that
customers wanted it to be slower, if you can believe that (i don't).

<http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/671497/review/excel_2011_for_ma
c.html>

In back-to-back comparisons between Excel 2004, 2008, and 2011, the
2011 release was easily the slowest of the three‹it took over six
times as long to scroll through my test document as did Excel 2004.
(Microsoft has told us they slowed the scrolling down due to user
complaints about it being too fast. While it may have been too fast
in Excel 2004, it's currently twice as slow as Excel 2008, which
seems like an excessive slowdown to me.) When you add in the
lag-on-window-resize, the Excel 2011 interface can feel slow at times.

however, calculations are supposedly faster.

in my spreadsheets, i do more scrolling than i do calculating, so 2011
is a huge, huge step backwards. it's really sad that emulated powerpc
code is faster than native intel code.

Since Entourage 2004 seems a bit slower on my new Intel Mac over my now
dead Tiger PPC iBook, I have switched to using Mail. I hope that Outlook
2011 becomes the best Mac mail client. Any thoughts on this new version
and Outlook?

<http://www.macworld.com/article/154410/2010/09/outlook2011firstlook.htm>

 

[John]

The review of excel 2011 was very positive. Its a shame you focused on
the negatives. Regarding Outlook I did not get enough in the basic
review to make a educated decision.

 

[Kerry]

The review of excel 2011 was very positive. Its a shame you focused on
the negatives. Regarding Outlook I did not get enough in the basic
review to make a educated decision.

I heard from Corentin that sync services in 2011 currently doesn't
support the sync of events which is what I mainly do. Also you can
only load it on one machine. I have a iMac and a Macbook pro so this
product would be a way too expensive for me.

 

[Alan Browne]

excel 2011 is slower than 2008, and microsoft is claiming that
customers wanted it to be slower, if you can believe that (i don't).

Funny, the press release claims it is faster and that is one of the main
objectives of the 2011 release.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/28/microsoft_to_launch_office_for_mac_2011_on_oct_26.html

"Microsoft also said that the newest Office for Mac was developed with
performance improvements a top priority. The team said they hope users
appreciate the effort that went into it when they experience the launch
speed of each application, as well as the overall speed of the suite."

So, MS are saying it is faster, not slower. Certainly no claim
regarding users wanting it to be slower.

 

[Dave Fritzinger]

Funny, the press release claims it is faster and that is one of the main
objectives of the 2011 release.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/28/microsoft_to_launch_off...

"Microsoft also said that the newest Office for Mac was developed with
performance improvements a top priority. The team said they hope users
appreciate the effort that went into it when they experience the launch
speed of each application, as well as the overall speed of the suite."

So, MS are saying it is faster, not slower.  Certainly no claim
regarding users wanting it to be slower.

I read the review from MacWorld (I believe). They said that
*scrolling* was slower, and that MS commented that this was done
because people complained that scrolling could be too fast in
Excel2004 and 2008.

 

[Alan Browne]

I read the review from MacWorld (I believe). They said that
*scrolling* was slower, and that MS commented that this was done
because people complained that scrolling could be too fast in
Excel2004 and 2008.

So the application is not slower, the presentation is adjusted for user
preferences. I'd want that to be an option however - either a few
flavors or a percentage.

 

[Alan Browne]

I heard from Corentin that sync services in 2011 currently doesn't
support the sync of events which is what I mainly do. Also you can
only load it on one machine. I have a iMac and a Macbook pro so this
product would be a way too expensive for me.

Maybe get the student edition (at least the 2008 edition had 3 licenses).

 

[sbt]

I like the look of this new office and it will be great when the apps
dont take a minute to launch. Mike Rosenberg says that Office 2008 is
slower than 2004 on a Intel Mac, but I did not see this when I tested it
on another Mac running leopard. Maybe Mike means that Office 2008 is
slower on a Snow Leopard Mac over 2004. Regardless I look forward to the
new office 2011 and the new Outlook. Will it be as good as the PC
version?

Since Entourage 2004 seems a bit slower on my new Intel Mac over my now
dead Tiger PPC iBook, I have switched to using Mail. I hope that Outlook
2011 becomes the best Mac mail client. Any thoughts on this new version
and Outlook?

Just as an FYI, the "Student" version lacks Outlook (need Home &
Business version to get it) and the 3-license pack that people got used
to with Office 2008 costs $30 more than the single-license pack.

So, for the $120 price of the 2011 Home & Student, you lose 2 licenses
and the Entourage/Outlook functionality as compared to the 2008
version.

 

[James]

Just as an FYI, the "Student" version lacks Outlook (need Home &
Business version to get it) and the 3-license pack that people got used
to with Office 2008 costs $30 more than the single-license pack.

So, for the $120 price of the 2011 Home & Student, you lose 2 licenses
and the Entourage/Outlook functionality as compared to the 2008
version.

Hi, do you know whether an installation of 2011 Home & Student (Word,
XL and PPT) will co-exist with Entourage 2008? I can't use Outlook 2011
as my firm's still running Exchange 2003, but it would be nice if I
could still benefit from leaner versions of the other applications.

 

[pmhapp]

Hi, do you know whether an installation of 2011 Home & Student (Word,
XL and PPT) will co-exist with Entourage 2008? I can't use Outlook 2011
as my firm's still running Exchange 2003, but it would be nice if I
could still benefit from leaner versions of the other applications.

I'm running both (for the same reason).

 

[James]

I'm running both (for the same reason).

Thanks

 

[Kerry]

I just found out that Outlook has dropped the linking capability which
I used extensively. So no events sync, more moneyt for two machines
and no links. This is defininitely a no go product for me.