OL07, activities page, journal view failing to display

J

jeffrey

let me give example of this recent behavior: start outlook> go to individual
contact page> click on activities> show "journal"> journal shows all 'phone
calls'. close contact> reopen contact> go through the same routine>this time
nothing shows in journal screen. if i wait about 10 minutes the journal
entries may show again.

if search on "all items" it may show only email and calendar items, but not
the phone calls that should show up in the 'journal' view.

i have tried closing and restarting outlook.
i don't recall changing any settings that should impact outlook. i did
notice today that the 'standard toolbar' was open, and i don't remember
opening it. i don't use it.

and, no, no one else uses the computer.
i have searched MS kb, and internet, and can find nothing about this
behavior.

i tried running 'office diagnostics'. it found no issues.

i also ran repair on office from add/remove. this did not help either.

does anyone have an idea about how to correct this situation?

thanks,

jeffrey
 
N

Nikki Peterson

I saw this and placed a watch on it to see if anyone else had
something more than the guess I can provide. It would appear
not.

This is definately not normal. However, there are alot of possible
culprits. Form corruption, synchronization issue, OST gone awry,
network connection, etc.

What is your set up:
Are you working on a machine at home and use Outlook for an ISP?
Are you working on a mchine at work and use Outlook for an ISP?
Are you working on a machine at work and use Exchange server?
What O/S (Operating System) do you use?

Nikki

no one has any ideas about this problem?
 
J

jeffrey

nikki, thanks for replying.
all useful details that i didn't think to include:
i am working on a machine at home. i don't know what is meant by 'use
outlook for an isp". i don't browse internet through outlook. no exchange
server,
i am using xp pro, sp 2

i might note that when i click on activities, i can see that outlook is
searching. the little magnifying glass in upper right goes around for a
while. when journal finds nothing, the magnifying glass only appears for
half a second (or not at all). not sure what this may mean.

i have tried turning off the computer, (without using start>shut down), so
that perhaps outlook will have to check data files. this didn't seem to help
either.

sometimes i will click on a contact and it will give me the correct journal
entries, and maybe do it again, next time not. or not give me journal
entries on the first try.

jeffrey
 
J

jeffrey

from another thread, i got the idea to run scanpst.exe. it found errors,
but didn't solve the journal problem.
jeffrey
 
N

Nikki Peterson

If you want to try something, try this:

Clean up the forms cache:

To do so, follow these steps:
1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click the Other tab, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Click Custom Forms.
4. Click Manage Forms.
5. Click Clear Cache.
6. Close all open windows, and then restart Outlook 2003.

If the above does not work, try the following.

Deleting the Forms Cache File:
The Frmcache.dat file is the primary file to delete. The Frmcache.dat
file serves as an index of the individual forms that have been cached
on the computer. Use the following steps to manually delete the
Frmcache.dat file. In addition, these steps delete all of the cached
forms on your computer, which are stored in subfolders of the
Forms folder.

1.. Quit Outlook.
2.. Search the Hard drive (<F3>) to locate the Frmcache.dat file.
(Be sure to check in HIDDEN files on W2K or WXP.)
3.. Delete all that are found from the FIND window.
4.. Open Outlook.

When you restart Outlook, and use a form, the forms cache
is re-created.

Please let me know if this solution works for you, or if it does not.
This is a starting point for trouble-shooting this issue.

Nikki Peterson

from another thread, i got the idea to run scanpst.exe. it found errors,
but didn't solve the journal problem.
jeffrey
 
J

jeffrey

nikki, thanks. good to have something to try as possible solution.
clearing cache from outlook didn't change the errant behavior. as usual, i
might open a contact and journal view worked fine, but when reopening the
contact the journal view is empty, then the next contact nothing shows in
journal view. perhaps switching to 'all items' and then back to journal will
get results, sometimes not.

deleting the frmcache.dat file (i found only one), seems to have produced
more consistancy. now opening a contact shows nothing in journal view, but
switching to 'all items' gets me a list of all items (previously it did not
always do this, maybe only emails, or calendar items), and then switching to
journal gets all the journal items. i tried several contacts and they all
work the same. and reopening a contact does the same. but wait, i just
tried it again, and the old behavior is back (i have not closed outlook
since writing the sentence above), nothing showing in journal view, 'all
items' only showing email, and then, still, nothing showing in journal view.
erratic. darn.

i hope, somehow, that this helps.

jeffrey
 
N

Nikki Peterson

I am not sure what to tell you at this point. It sounds like you have more
going on with your machine than your machine can handle.

I would look at how much ram do you have
How large is your pst file (Outlook data file)
Do you have other programs running?

Nikki

nikki, thanks. good to have something to try as possible solution.
clearing cache from outlook didn't change the errant behavior. as usual, i
might open a contact and journal view worked fine, but when reopening the
contact the journal view is empty, then the next contact nothing shows in
journal view. perhaps switching to 'all items' and then back to journal will
get results, sometimes not.

deleting the frmcache.dat file (i found only one), seems to have produced
more consistancy. now opening a contact shows nothing in journal view, but
switching to 'all items' gets me a list of all items (previously it did not
always do this, maybe only emails, or calendar items), and then switching to
journal gets all the journal items. i tried several contacts and they all
work the same. and reopening a contact does the same. but wait, i just
tried it again, and the old behavior is back (i have not closed outlook
since writing the sentence above), nothing showing in journal view, 'all
items' only showing email, and then, still, nothing showing in journal view.
erratic. darn.

i hope, somehow, that this helps.

jeffrey
 
J

jeffrey

i have 1gb of ram (1046 mb of physical mem, 416mb available.)
..pst is 120mb
sure there are other programs running, but not many: outlook, linkstash,
clipcache, kaspersky, magicjack, winpatrol, file manager. thats about it.

somehow, i feel that outlook not even attempting to search (as it does when
the correct entries Do appear) is a clue. somehow, it thinks that it already
has the necessary info, and doesn't need to look for it.

does this mean that i am the first to have this problem? i feel special.

jeffrey
 
J

jeffrey

diane, if you mean start>search, yes. works as well as it ever did. i
don't have the more elaborate office 2007 indexing feature (instant search?)
installed.

jeffrey

--
jeffrey
Diane Poremsky said:
Does desktop search work as expected?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]



Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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You can access this newsgroup by visiting
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newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


jeffrey said:
i have 1gb of ram (1046 mb of physical mem, 416mb available.)
.pst is 120mb
sure there are other programs running, but not many: outlook, linkstash,
clipcache, kaspersky, magicjack, winpatrol, file manager. thats about it.

somehow, i feel that outlook not even attempting to search (as it does
when the correct entries Do appear) is a clue. somehow, it thinks that it
already has the necessary info, and doesn't need to look for it.

does this mean that i am the first to have this problem? i feel special.

jeffrey
 
J

jdlatil

I'm having same issues as you with the activities button. Watching your
process. I don't think its the ram I'm running 6GB for ram on Vista program
and have same issues as you. Good luck.
Jdlatil

jeffrey said:
diane, if you mean start>search, yes. works as well as it ever did. i
don't have the more elaborate office 2007 indexing feature (instant search?)
installed.

jeffrey

--
jeffrey
Diane Poremsky said:
Does desktop search work as expected?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]



Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


jeffrey said:
i have 1gb of ram (1046 mb of physical mem, 416mb available.)
.pst is 120mb
sure there are other programs running, but not many: outlook, linkstash,
clipcache, kaspersky, magicjack, winpatrol, file manager. thats about it.

somehow, i feel that outlook not even attempting to search (as it does
when the correct entries Do appear) is a clue. somehow, it thinks that it
already has the necessary info, and doesn't need to look for it.

does this mean that i am the first to have this problem? i feel special.

jeffrey




--
jeffrey
I am not sure what to tell you at this point. It sounds like you have
more
going on with your machine than your machine can handle.

I would look at how much ram do you have
How large is your pst file (Outlook data file)
Do you have other programs running?

Nikki

nikki, thanks. good to have something to try as possible solution.
clearing cache from outlook didn't change the errant behavior. as
usual, i
might open a contact and journal view worked fine, but when reopening
the
contact the journal view is empty, then the next contact nothing shows
in
journal view. perhaps switching to 'all items' and then back to journal
will
get results, sometimes not.

deleting the frmcache.dat file (i found only one), seems to have
produced
more consistancy. now opening a contact shows nothing in journal view,
but
switching to 'all items' gets me a list of all items (previously it did
not
always do this, maybe only emails, or calendar items), and then
switching to
journal gets all the journal items. i tried several contacts and they
all
work the same. and reopening a contact does the same. but wait, i just
tried it again, and the old behavior is back (i have not closed outlook
since writing the sentence above), nothing showing in journal view, 'all
items' only showing email, and then, still, nothing showing in journal
view.
erratic. darn.

i hope, somehow, that this helps.

jeffrey

--
jeffrey
If you want to try something, try this:

Clean up the forms cache:

To do so, follow these steps:
1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click the Other tab, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Click Custom Forms.
4. Click Manage Forms.
5. Click Clear Cache.
6. Close all open windows, and then restart Outlook 2003.

If the above does not work, try the following.

Deleting the Forms Cache File:
The Frmcache.dat file is the primary file to delete. The Frmcache.dat
file serves as an index of the individual forms that have been cached
on the computer. Use the following steps to manually delete the
Frmcache.dat file. In addition, these steps delete all of the cached
forms on your computer, which are stored in subfolders of the
Forms folder.

1.. Quit Outlook.
2.. Search the Hard drive (<F3>) to locate the Frmcache.dat file.
(Be sure to check in HIDDEN files on W2K or WXP.)
3.. Delete all that are found from the FIND window.
4.. Open Outlook.

When you restart Outlook, and use a form, the forms cache
is re-created.

Please let me know if this solution works for you, or if it does not.
This is a starting point for trouble-shooting this issue.

Nikki Peterson

from another thread, i got the idea to run scanpst.exe. it found
errors,
but didn't solve the journal problem.
jeffrey

--
jeffrey
I saw this and placed a watch on it to see if anyone else had
something more than the guess I can provide. It would appear
not.

This is definately not normal. However, there are alot of possible
culprits. Form corruption, synchronization issue, OST gone awry,
network connection, etc.

What is your set up:
Are you working on a machine at home and use Outlook for an ISP?
Are you working on a mchine at work and use Outlook for an ISP?
Are you working on a machine at work and use Exchange server?
What O/S (Operating System) do you use?

Nikki

no one has any ideas about this problem?

--
jeffrey



let me give example of this recent behavior: start outlook> go to
individual
contact page> click on activities> show "journal"> journal shows all
'phone
calls'. close contact> reopen contact> go through the same
routine>this
time
nothing shows in journal screen. if i wait about 10 minutes the
journal
entries may show again.

if search on "all items" it may show only email and calendar items,
but
not the phone calls that should show up in the 'journal' view.

i have tried closing and restarting outlook.
i don't recall changing any settings that should impact outlook. i
did
notice today that the 'standard toolbar' was open, and i don't
remember
opening it. i don't use it.

and, no, no one else uses the computer.
i have searched MS kb, and internet, and can find nothing about this
behavior.

i tried running 'office diagnostics'. it found no issues.

i also ran repair on office from add/remove. this did not help
either.

does anyone have an idea about how to correct this situation?

thanks,

jeffrey
 
J

jeffrey

its good to hear someone else talking of having the same problem. if 2 of us
are reporting, we can be certain that many people are having the same issue.
for some reason it hasn't been talked about previously. or maybe it has. i
don't know how to access previous forum discussions for search, and a google
search didn't turn up anything for me.

lets hope that someone can come up with a solution.

jeffrey

--
jeffrey
jdlatil said:
I'm having same issues as you with the activities button. Watching your
process. I don't think its the ram I'm running 6GB for ram on Vista
program
and have same issues as you. Good luck.
Jdlatil

jeffrey said:
diane, if you mean start>search, yes. works as well as it ever did. i
don't have the more elaborate office 2007 indexing feature (instant
search?)
installed.

jeffrey

--
jeffrey
Diane Poremsky said:
Does desktop search work as expected?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]



Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point
your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


i have 1gb of ram (1046 mb of physical mem, 416mb available.)
.pst is 120mb
sure there are other programs running, but not many: outlook,
linkstash,
clipcache, kaspersky, magicjack, winpatrol, file manager. thats about
it.

somehow, i feel that outlook not even attempting to search (as it does
when the correct entries Do appear) is a clue. somehow, it thinks that
it
already has the necessary info, and doesn't need to look for it.

does this mean that i am the first to have this problem? i feel
special.

jeffrey




--
jeffrey
I am not sure what to tell you at this point. It sounds like you have
more
going on with your machine than your machine can handle.

I would look at how much ram do you have
How large is your pst file (Outlook data file)
Do you have other programs running?

Nikki

nikki, thanks. good to have something to try as possible solution.
clearing cache from outlook didn't change the errant behavior. as
usual, i
might open a contact and journal view worked fine, but when
reopening
the
contact the journal view is empty, then the next contact nothing
shows
in
journal view. perhaps switching to 'all items' and then back to
journal
will
get results, sometimes not.

deleting the frmcache.dat file (i found only one), seems to have
produced
more consistancy. now opening a contact shows nothing in journal
view,
but
switching to 'all items' gets me a list of all items (previously it
did
not
always do this, maybe only emails, or calendar items), and then
switching to
journal gets all the journal items. i tried several contacts and
they
all
work the same. and reopening a contact does the same. but wait, i
just
tried it again, and the old behavior is back (i have not closed
outlook
since writing the sentence above), nothing showing in journal view,
'all
items' only showing email, and then, still, nothing showing in
journal
view.
erratic. darn.

i hope, somehow, that this helps.

jeffrey

--
jeffrey
If you want to try something, try this:

Clean up the forms cache:

To do so, follow these steps:
1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
2. Click the Other tab, and then click Advanced Options.
3. Click Custom Forms.
4. Click Manage Forms.
5. Click Clear Cache.
6. Close all open windows, and then restart Outlook 2003.

If the above does not work, try the following.

Deleting the Forms Cache File:
The Frmcache.dat file is the primary file to delete. The
Frmcache.dat
file serves as an index of the individual forms that have been
cached
on the computer. Use the following steps to manually delete the
Frmcache.dat file. In addition, these steps delete all of the cached
forms on your computer, which are stored in subfolders of the
Forms folder.

1.. Quit Outlook.
2.. Search the Hard drive (<F3>) to locate the Frmcache.dat file.
(Be sure to check in HIDDEN files on W2K or WXP.)
3.. Delete all that are found from the FIND window.
4.. Open Outlook.

When you restart Outlook, and use a form, the forms cache
is re-created.

Please let me know if this solution works for you, or if it does
not.
This is a starting point for trouble-shooting this issue.

Nikki Peterson

from another thread, i got the idea to run scanpst.exe. it found
errors,
but didn't solve the journal problem.
jeffrey

--
jeffrey
I saw this and placed a watch on it to see if anyone else had
something more than the guess I can provide. It would appear
not.

This is definately not normal. However, there are alot of possible
culprits. Form corruption, synchronization issue, OST gone awry,
network connection, etc.

What is your set up:
Are you working on a machine at home and use Outlook for an ISP?
Are you working on a mchine at work and use Outlook for an ISP?
Are you working on a machine at work and use Exchange server?
What O/S (Operating System) do you use?

Nikki

no one has any ideas about this problem?

--
jeffrey



let me give example of this recent behavior: start outlook> go to
individual
contact page> click on activities> show "journal"> journal shows
all
'phone
calls'. close contact> reopen contact> go through the same
routine>this
time
nothing shows in journal screen. if i wait about 10 minutes the
journal
entries may show again.

if search on "all items" it may show only email and calendar
items,
but
not the phone calls that should show up in the 'journal' view.

i have tried closing and restarting outlook.
i don't recall changing any settings that should impact outlook. i
did
notice today that the 'standard toolbar' was open, and i don't
remember
opening it. i don't use it.

and, no, no one else uses the computer.
i have searched MS kb, and internet, and can find nothing about
this
behavior.

i tried running 'office diagnostics'. it found no issues.

i also ran repair on office from add/remove. this did not help
either.

does anyone have an idea about how to correct this situation?

thanks,

jeffrey
 
M

Modinha

Hi, Jeffrey, I just searched for answers in Outlook General and noted a query
about a similar issue with no resolution. Please see my note below. Would
love to hear if you find answers. Thanks much, Melanie

"Has anyone figured this out? I use office 2003 and I have vista 64x. I have
a number indicating 4496 journal entries, but I can't SEE them. That is the
first journal file. I have another file listed as "Journal in Personal
Folders" with no items in it.

I've used this feature for years to track my work, but it's not showing up
in VISTA. Any microsoft gurus able to address this? would really, really
appreciate it. I've been watching here and no one has responded. My best,
Modinha"
 
J

jeffrey

mohinha, yes, it appears that this is far from an isolated incident. since,
at least for me, it is inconsistent, i am guessing that other people have
just accepted it as an Outlook inadequacy/defect, like many other defects,
and have lost hope in Microsoft addressing it. (how often do they ever
address popular problems?) The advantage that Microsoft has is that there
isn't, so far, a real competitor. when there is, it will be bye bye Outlook.
 

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