Old Outlook 2001 emails dragged to desktop

[Miker789]

Version: 2004
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
Processor: intel
Email Client: Exchange

First time I have run into this as a support person. Most everybody else that keeps old mail in Outlook creates a PST file. I have 2 users that would just drag the e-mail from the Outlook 2001 window to their desktop or Mac folder of choice. It would then copy it there with a nice little envelope icon. Then later on when they needed to reference that e-mail, they would double click it, Outlook would launch and open the e-mail.

Well moving to Intel Macs, OS 9 is dead, so Outlook 2001 is also dead. I have not found an OS X program that can open and read these files. Word can open them, but with lots of formatting junk strewn throughout the file. No user friendly.

I need some way to do this because these two users have filed their e-mail this way for 5 years and it is scattered all over folders, CDs and servers.

If anyone has any ideas please help.

 

[Miker789]

Forgot to mention they are using Office 2004 now, with Entourage 11.3.6 and that can't open or import the files either. If you get info on the files the Kind is listed as MSMLServer Document.

 

[William Smith]

First time I have run into this as a support person. Most everybody
else that keeps old mail in Outlook creates a PST file. I have 2
users that would just drag the e-mail from the Outlook 2001 window to
their desktop or Mac folder of choice. It would then copy it there
with a nice little envelope icon. Then later on when they needed to
reference that e-mail, they would double click it, Outlook would
launch and open the e-mail.

Well moving to Intel Macs, OS 9 is dead, so Outlook 2001 is also
dead. I have not found an OS X program that can open and read these
files. Word can open them, but with lots of formatting junk strewn
throughout the file. No user friendly.

I need some way to do this because these two users have filed their
e-mail this way for 5 years and it is scattered all over folders, CDs
and servers.

I'd say try to find a machine where you can run Outlook 2001 and put the
files back into a PST file. Then you can import that PST file into
Entourage using the PST Import Tool from Microsoft found here
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...E2-EA2B-4088-AF2C-2FD497E2A6F8&displaylang=en>
or <http://tinyurl.com/clzkw>.

Outlook 2001 is no longer available from Microsoft but a quick search in
Google finds this
<http://microsoft-outlook.en.malavida.com/mvdwn/en/2937>.

If you don't have an Exchange Server 5.5 system, which is needed to set
up Outlook 2001 for the first time, then you may need to also download
the empty Exchange Profile that I have in this blog post:

"Use an empty Exchange profile to open PST files in Outlook 2001"
<http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2007...eader_migrates_from_outlook_to_entourage.html>


Hope this helps!

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

 

[Miker789]

Bill,

That would be great if they were in one place all together.

These two users have filed their e-mail this way for 5 years and it is scattered all over folders, CDs and servers. They put it with the art files and projects for reference. So at any given time, they might open a folder of archived Quark files and some of these Outlook e-mails will be in there too. At that point they would just double click on the Outlook file and it would open in Outlook 2001. So you would have a nightmare trying to collect all these rogue files everywhere, put in a PST file, do the conversions to Entourage, then try to file them back in the folders they had them.

Obviously they can't do that on an Intel Mac.

Is there any application that can open these files just to view them on an Intel Mac?

Thanks, Mike

 

[Diane Ross]

At that point they would just double click on the Outlook file and it would
open in Outlook 2001. So you would have a nightmare trying to collect all
these rogue files everywhere, put in a PST file, do the conversions to
Entourage, then try to file them back in the folders they had them.

Obviously they can't do that on an Intel Mac.

Is there any application that can open these files just to view them on an
Intel Mac?

Do a Get Info on one of the files. Select Entourage to open then select
"Change All."

 

[megawatt]

Hello,

I am having the same problem here! Did anyone find a useful solution?

Thanks for any ideas!

 

[Sue Donum]

Hello,

I am having the same problem here! Did anyone find a useful solution?

Thanks for any ideas!

Not sure if this is relevant, but I migrated to Entourage 2004 from Outlook
Express 5. The migration was quite simple, because all I needed to do was
install Entourage on my new iMac, and then import my OE files (which I had
saved from my old OS 9 machine to a backup drive).

Entourage 2004 can't import files from Outlook (I don't have a clue about
other versions of Entourage). However, it can import from tab- or
comma-delimted as well as MBOX-format text files. So, if your users still
have Outlook 2001 on a pre-Intel/OS 9 machine, perhaps they can
"re-populate" it with those old e-mails, and then export them in one of the
three text formats, which could then be imported into Entourage 2004.

(Sorry if I'm babbling. )

 

[megawatt]

Not sure if this is relevant, but I migrated to Entourage 2004 from Outlook
Express 5. The migration was quite simple, because all I needed to do was
install Entourage on my new iMac, and then import my OE files (which I had
saved from my old OS 9 machine to a backup drive).

Entourage 2004 can't import files from Outlook (I don't have a clue about
other versions of Entourage). However, it can import from tab- or
comma-delimted as well as MBOX-format text files. So, if your users still
have Outlook 2001 on a pre-Intel/OS 9 machine, perhaps they can
"re-populate" it with those old e-mails, and then export them in one of the
three text formats, which could then be imported into Entourage 2004.

(Sorry if I'm babbling. )

Thanks, but again the problem is, that all the mail is stored as files (not
sure wich format this is) on a large Storage in many different folders.
Really impossible to collect together. So the only thing that might help
would be a viewer or even better a converter for this strange file format.
There are enclosures in that files that are also necessary to keep.
I tried to get Outlook to work on an Intel machine with SheepShaver, but I
did not succeed yet. Continue to work on it.

Thanks again for any ideas!

 

[Sue Donum]

Thanks, but again the problem is, that all the mail is stored as files (not
sure wich format this is) on a large Storage in many different folders.
Really impossible to collect together. So the only thing that might help
would be a viewer or even better a converter for this strange file format.
There are enclosures in that files that are also necessary to keep.
I tried to get Outlook to work on an Intel machine with SheepShaver, but I
did not succeed yet. Continue to work on it.

Thanks again for any ideas!

"... all the mail is stored as files (not sure wich format this is) on a
large Storage in many different folders."

I guess I'm confused. If your users saved their e-mails to folders, I assume
they simply dragged & dropped them as copies from their Identity (or
whatever it's called in Outlook) files. And you did say that their copies of
Outlook were able to open the individual e-mails they saved in this manner.

Have they completely trashed their OS 9 machines, along with Outlook? If
not, why can't they copy the e-mail folders they created back into their old
OS 9/Outlook machines?

 

[megawatt]

I guess I'm confused. If your users saved their e-mails to folders, I assume
they simply dragged & dropped them as copies from their Identity (or
whatever it's called in Outlook) files. And you did say that their copies of
Outlook were able to open the individual e-mails they saved in this manner.

They dragged and drpped the mails. They now can open them with Outlook.

Have they completely trashed their OS 9 machines, along with Outlook? If
not, why can't they copy the e-mail folders they created back into their old
OS 9/Outlook machines?

They want to completly trash their Classic and Outlook. They cannot put the
mails back to Outlook, because they all are in different folders (one for
each project, hundreds of projects)

 

[Sue Donum]

They dragged and drpped the mails. They now can open them with Outlook.


They want to completly trash their Classic and Outlook. They cannot put the
mails back to Outlook, because they all are in different folders (one for
each project, hundreds of projects)

"... I have not found an OS X program that can open and read these files."

? But Outlook is such a program (albeit, it's not an OS X app).

Let's assume you could find such an OS X program, you'd still be faced with
the chore of grabbing onto those many folders to capture those e-mails,
right? So why isn't Outlook a candidate "intermediate" program (i.e., for
re-capturing those e-mails and then exporting them in tab- or comma-delimted
text or MBOX format for importing into Entourage)?

 

[megawatt]

I do not want to capture all of this mail - I want to leave it where it is -
this is fine as it is. But I have to be able to deal with this files in OSX
on an Intel Mac. I have to be able to view and print them and I have to be
able to deal with the attachments.

 

[Diane Ross]

I'm confused too over exactly what your questions is. It's never a good idea
to add your question on to another user's post.

Are you trying to work with PST files, or files created by the Mac Outlook
2001 application saved as individual emails? Please start a new thread and
give details for your problem. What version of the OS and Entourage? What
type of account? (POP, IMAP, Exchange) What are the exact file types you
have?

 

[megawatt]

I'm confused too over exactly what your questions is. It's never a good idea
to add your question on to another user's post.

Sorry, if I did something wrong - but the problem described in this thread
is exactly the same that I have!

Are you trying to work with PST files, or files created by the Mac Outlook
2001 application saved as individual emails? Please start a new thread and
give details for your problem. What version of the OS and Entourage? What
type of account? (POP, IMAP, Exchange) What are the exact file types you
have?

Miker789 and me are both dealing with files dragged to desktop (or anywhere
else) from Outlook 2001 Mac in Classic Environment. Outlook 2001 is only
working with an Exchange account. The files generated have the creator EXCH
and the type MSG and no extension.

 

[Diane Ross]

Sorry, if I did something wrong - but the problem described in this thread
is exactly the same that I have!

The forum is just not clear about this and we are having a rash of messages
all getting mixed up. Regardless of having a same or exact problem, always
ask in a new thread. This way you are required to give the basics like the
version of the OS and Entourage you are using along with the account type.

The original message: (posted 6/11/2008)

Version: 2004
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
Processor: intel
Email Client: Exchange

Yours:

Version: 2004
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel
Email Client: Exchange

Not the same. Different versions of the OS. Sometimes this makes a big
difference in the reply.

I've seen threads end up with over 70 messages and over 10 different people
asking a similar question...so you can see how confusing that can get
especially is someone where using search to find an answer.

Miker789 and me are both dealing with files dragged to desktop (or anywhere
else) from Outlook 2001 Mac in Classic Environment. Outlook 2001 is only
working with an Exchange account. The files generated have the creator EXCH
and the type MSG and no extension.

This helps and I'll see what I can find out.

 

[Diane Ross]

Thanks for any ideas!

Received the following from a couple MVPs. Once you get these open, managing
them is a whole other ballgame. Hopefully, Spotlight will help there. I
would put them in a separate Entourage Identity. It would be easy to switch
Identities to view the old mail when needed.

Outlook messages are not .eml type, and nothing else can open them.

Their best bet is probably to get the messages over to a PC running Outlook
- I bet it can import them. Then go through one of the methods to export
Outlook messages to some other PC email program that can import them
(Outlook Express, Eudora, Thunderbird) where they will become .eml messages
when dragged out. Bring these .eml messages back to the Mac where Entourage
should be able to import and open them.

If you get really lucky, the originator specified "RTF" as the format. If
they did, they will be in TNEF, and the Mac Application TNEF's Enough will
get them open.