Outlook 2003 x Newsgroups

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Kdti

I need to read newgroups with my outlook 2003. This is possible?
How to do?
Tks

Kdti
Brazil
 
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

No. Outlook is not a news reader.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I need to read newgroups with my outlook 2003. This is possible?
How to do?
Tks

Kdti
Brazil
 
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Don Caton

Kdti:

A more accurate answer to your question is that yes, you can read
newsgroups with Outlook 2003 (as well as Outlook 2000 and 2002), with
the help of a 3rd party "add-in".

My company sells one such product; you can find more info at
http://www.shorelinesoftware.com. There are a couple of others as well;
there is a listing at http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/olexpr.htm (not
associated with us, but it's a good site from a helpful MVP with lots of
info about Outlook).
 
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

I question whether suggesting that a user purchase an add-in so that Outlook
can read news constitutes a "more accurate" answer. People who post this
question want to know if Outlook has the native ability to function as a
news reader. The question arises often because Netscape combined mail
reading and news reading in the same program and many users wonder if
Outlook will do the same thing. The answer is no. Outlook has never been and
most likely never will be a news reader. Internet Mail and NNTP are two
separate and largely unrelated activities. The decision to keep them
separate was deliberate.

There are plenty of good news readers available for free. Microsoft even
provides one that can be invoked seamlessly from Outlook.

For those who want to keep news reading and Internet Mail within the same
application, your software and the others listed are excellent choices.
 
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Don Caton

Russ:

The OP's question was: "I need to read newgroups with my outlook 2003.
This is possible? How to do?".

He did not inquire (and probably does not care) about the historical
design decisions of Netscape or Microsoft. He simply asked if something
was possible, and you replied with a definitive, unqualified "No.
Outlook is not a news reader.".

Whether internet mail and NNTP are unrelated activities is a matter of
opinion. Netscape, Microsoft and many other companies have created
products that perform both tasks. Also consider that recording notes,
tracking appointments or reminding you about someone's anniversary are
activities largely unrelated to internet mail, yet all are native
features of Outlook.

Microsoft clearly markets Outlook as a "personal information manager and
communications program"
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/outlook/prodinfo/default.mspx). The
number of messages here and in other groups asking how to read
newsgroups in Outlook would seem to indicate that it is an activity many
people consider compatible with Outlook.

Of course Microsoft's decision not to provide native support for NNTP in
Outlook is deliberate; MS will gladly sell you a copy of Exchange if you
want to do NNTP in Outlook. And there are plenty of consultants and
book writers standing by to help. Nothing wrong with that if it solves
your need, but none of that is free. Outlook isn't free either, nor is
Outlook Express for that matter.

The issue is no different than if someone were to ask whether it is
possible to read RSS feeds in Outlook, or any of the dozens of other
things that Outlook cannot do natively. With all due respect, "no" is
not an accurate answer to that, or any other similar question. Why not
just refer the person to a appropriate source of information and let
them make an informed decision?

--
Regards,
Don Caton
Shoreline Software, Inc.
 
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

The vast majority of users asking this question simply want to know if
Outlook has the native ability to read news. When they learn it does not,
they are content to fire up the news reader of their choice. Those who are
not are perfectly capable or researching third party add-ins available for
purchase on their own.

I make no pretense that I have reviewed, used and can therefore recommend
third party add-ins. I'll stick to the Outlook questions. You are more than
welcome to provide information on your add-in. That's what the group is for.
 
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Don Caton

Russ:

Not to belabor the point, but it's not always clear what someone wants
to know or what their experience level is. The OP may not even be aware
that Outlook can be extended with add-ins.

The people who ask questions here _are_ doing research. Not everyone is
experienced enough to know about Google or the Outlook-specific sites.
Sometimes people don't even know the proper question to ask. We've all
been there at one point or another.

Please don't misunderstand - I certainly wasn't expecting you (or anyone
else) to recommend, endorse or provide specifics about any particular
product. I'll respond to NNTP-related posts if nobody else does, but
there's a fine line between offering help and using the newsgroup for
marketing purposes when the response comes from a vendor, so it isn't
something I'm particularly comfortable with.
 
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

There is indeed a fine line between offering help and marketing. But it is
not a line that is hard to distinguish and to your credit it is a line you
have respected very well. The only vendors who raise my eyebrows (if not
ire) are those who promote their product by pretending that are just another
end user who just "happened" to have discovered the very product that they
are selling. Ick.
 
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