Outlook 2007 and IMAP

[af2604]

Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP msg
this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted

Thanks

Alberto

 

[Brian Tillman]

Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP
msg this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted

What you want is not possible in Outlook 2007 because the IMAP protocols
have no concept of a "trash" or "Deleted Items" folder. That was a
Thunderbird enhancement that is not part of how IMAP works.

 

[Alberto]

Ok, but this is very strange and I don't understand the reason of this
choose.

If I use an IMAP account I can access to my email also via web (in most
cases) and if I delete some msg from web these go to trash folder.

If IMAP protocol don't use a trash folder concept, does it use a "spam"
folder as Outlook ?
I think no.

Thank you very much for the answer

Alberto

 

[Brian Tillman]

If I use an IMAP account I can access to my email also via web (in
most cases) and if I delete some msg from web these go to trash
folder.

You can't access an IMAP account via a web browser. You can access a
_mailbox_ via a web browser that an IMAP server also references, however.
In thiis case, the web browser's access methods allow working with a trash
folder. The IMAP protocols, however, do not implement such a folder.

If IMAP protocol don't use a trash folder concept, does it use a
"spam" folder as Outlook ?

The IMAP protocols don't, per se, but Outlook adds one (that's local to
Outlook's IMAP PST) and can perform junk processing on the IMAP account's
Inbox. If a message gets moved to the Junk E-mail folder you see in the
IMAP PST, it will be on Outlok only, I believe. I don't think Outlook will
create a Junk E-mail folder that can be seen on the server side. I can't
test on Outlook 2007, right now, but that's the way Outlook 2003 handles it.
I know, however, there were significant changes in Outlook 2007's IMAP
handling, so perhaps it has been changed.

 

[Gordon]

The IMAP protocols don't, per se, but Outlook adds one (that's local to
Outlook's IMAP PST) and can perform junk processing on the IMAP account's
Inbox. If a message gets moved to the Junk E-mail folder you see in the
IMAP PST, it will be on Outlok only, I believe. I don't think Outlook
will create a Junk E-mail folder that can be seen on the server side. I
can't test on Outlook 2007, right now, but that's the way Outlook 2003
handles it. I know, however, there were significant changes in Outlook
2007's IMAP handling, so perhaps it has been changed.

2007 does it that way as well.....

 

[Hector C.]

The IMAP protocols don't, per se, but Outlook adds one (that's local
to Outlook's IMAP PST) and can perform junk processing on the IMAP
account's Inbox. If a message gets moved to the Junk E-mail folder
you see in the IMAP PST, it will be on Outlok only, I believe. I
don't think Outlook will create a Junk E-mail folder that can be seen
on the server side. I can't test on Outlook 2007, right now, but
that's the way Outlook 2003 handles it. I know, however, there were
significant changes in Outlook 2007's IMAP handling, so perhaps it has
been changed.

In my case, it does create the Junk mail folder on the server side.

++Hector C.

 

[Hector C.]

Hi all, I'm coming from Thunderbird and I'm testing Outlook 2007.
Usually I use an IMAP account, by Thunderbird when i delete an IMAP
msg this is moved from incoming messages to trash.
Is it possibile to do the same with Outlook 2007 ?
I have seen that Outlook simply mark a msg as deleted

Another couple things that you'll miss from Thunderbird:

* Move the PST file associated with an IMAP account.
* Native newsgroup support.

On the other hand, the calendar in Outlook 2007 is superb.

++Hector C.

 

[Brian Tillman]

In my case, it does create the Junk mail folder on the server side.

Last night I set up an IMAP account with Outlook 2007 and it appears you're
correct. It seems to have created that folder on my server as well. I'll
test it again and see if it's consistent.

 

[Gordon]

Last night I set up an IMAP account with Outlook 2007 and it appears
you're correct. It seems to have created that folder on my server as
well. I'll test it again and see if it's consistent.

Mine also has a Junk folder on the server...

 

[Brian Tillman]

Mine also has a Junk folder on the server...

The server I use provides a folder named "SPAM" and that's where it dumps
junk mail detected by its own antispam filter. After connecting with
Outlook, I also see a "Junk E-mail" folder matching Outlook's folder's name.

 

[Gordon]

The server I use provides a folder named "SPAM" and that's where it dumps
junk mail detected by its own antispam filter. After connecting with
Outlook, I also see a "Junk E-mail" folder matching Outlook's folder's
name.

Yep, I've got a Spam one as well....

 

[Alberto]

Of course I have also 2 folders

1) SPAM from my internet provider
2) Junk E-mail from Outlook

it could be fine to say to outlook "please use SPAM folder as Junk-Email
forlder" but this seems to be impossible (I hope to be wrong ...)

An other problem is that in "Preferred folders" I have no evidence of new
msgs, while a sond is saying me that there are 1 or more new nessages ...
any idea about this ?

Thanks to all

Alberto

 

[Brian Tillman]

Of course I have also 2 folders

1) SPAM from my internet provider
2) Junk E-mail from Outlook

it could be fine to say to outlook "please use SPAM folder as
Junk-Email forlder" but this seems to be impossible (I hope to be
wrong ...)

You are correct. You cannot adjust which folder Outloook uses for Junk
E-mail.

An other problem is that in "Preferred folders" I have no evidence
of new msgs, while a sond is saying me that there are 1 or more new
nessages ... any idea about this ?

Not at the moment. I don't have access to my OL 2007 system right now. If
I get the chance, I'll look tonight.

 

[Brian Tillman]

Not at the moment. I don't have access to my OL 2007 system right
now. If I get the chance, I'll look tonight.

I can't find anything in Outlook 2007 called "Preferred Folders". Do you
have a non-English version?

 

[Alberto]

Yes I have a not english version, try with "Favorite folders"

Thanks

Alberto

 

[Brian Tillman]

Last night I set up an IMAP account with Outlook 2007 and it appears
you're correct. It seems to have created that folder on my server as
well. I'll test it again and see if it's consistent.

It was. I deleted the Junk E-mail folder from the server and as soon as I
reconnected with Outlook, it created the folder on the server again.

 

[Peter Neuhaus]

Here's how I get around IMAP not having a 'deleted items' folder.

If I want to permanently delete an email in Outlook, I just click 'delete'.

If I think I MIGHT want it back in the future, I just drag it to the TRASH folder in my IMAP account in Outlook. On the next sync, Outlook will update the TRASH folder on the IMAP server.