Outlook 2007 / Push Gmail settings

A

Abo

Could someone please help me out with the correct settings? I've got my
Gmail account pushing effectively to my Windows Mobile smartphone, but I
can't seem to get it working properly on my Outlook 2007 installation.

I've got it sending/receiving via the pop settings but I'd love it if my
inboxes on my smartphone and laptop were properly in sync...

Thanks
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the mail.
The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' - outlook should
not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8 minutes.

--
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A

Abo

Ah fair play. I guess the question I'm asking is how to make it so that when
I'm out and read mail on my Smartphone, then switch my laptop on later and
pull mail down, those mails I've read on my smartphone are already marked as
read in Outlook on my laptop?

Diane Poremsky said:
Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the
mail. The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' -
outlook should not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8
minutes.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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Abo said:
Could someone please help me out with the correct settings? I've got my
Gmail account pushing effectively to my Windows Mobile smartphone, but I
can't seem to get it working properly on my Outlook 2007 installation.

I've got it sending/receiving via the pop settings but I'd love it if my
inboxes on my smartphone and laptop were properly in sync...

Thanks
 
G

Gordon

Abo said:
Ah fair play. I guess the question I'm asking is how to make it so that
when I'm out and read mail on my Smartphone, then switch my laptop on
later and pull mail down, those mails I've read on my smartphone are
already marked as read in Outlook on my laptop?

The only way to do that AFAIK is to set GMail up as IMAP on your laptop.
 
D

Dave Warren

In message <[email protected]> "Diane Poremsky
Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the mail.
The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' - outlook should
not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8 minutes.

This really isn't true.

Gmail supports IMAP IDLE, which allows the server to push notifications
to connected clients without the client constantly polling.

However, Google doesn't push all changes via IDLE, only new messages, so
in practice you still need to poll to get updated folder views if you
use more than one mail client on a regular basis.

The above having been said, Outlook's IMAP IDLE support isn't fantastic,
Outlook doesn't always notice and reestablish the connection in the
event of a timeout, so it's not quite as good an experience as other
IMAP IDLE capable clients.
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

You'll need to use IMAP, not POP3.

--
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Abo said:
Ah fair play. I guess the question I'm asking is how to make it so that
when I'm out and read mail on my Smartphone, then switch my laptop on
later and pull mail down, those mails I've read on my smartphone are
already marked as read in Outlook on my laptop?

Diane Poremsky said:
Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the
mail. The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' -
outlook should not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8
minutes.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Abo said:
Could someone please help me out with the correct settings? I've got my
Gmail account pushing effectively to my Windows Mobile smartphone, but I
can't seem to get it working properly on my Outlook 2007 installation.

I've got it sending/receiving via the pop settings but I'd love it if my
inboxes on my smartphone and laptop were properly in sync...

Thanks
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

POP doesn't support idle and the OP said he was using POP. Switching to
IMAP will give the results he wants (mail he's read on the phone or web is
marked read), regardless of Outlook's support of IDLE.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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A

Abo

Thanks Diane

Ok, looks like this properly became an Outlook question :D When I configure
with the IMAP settings given for Gmail, Outlook sets things up with a new
pst file. It's not a massive deal, but is it possible to make it work with
the original pst file, or replace it, etc. etc.?

Diane Poremsky said:
POP doesn't support idle and the OP said he was using POP. Switching to
IMAP will give the results he wants (mail he's read on the phone or web is
marked read), regardless of Outlook's support of IDLE.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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Dave Warren said:
In message <[email protected]> "Diane Poremsky


This really isn't true.

Gmail supports IMAP IDLE, which allows the server to push notifications
to connected clients without the client constantly polling.

However, Google doesn't push all changes via IDLE, only new messages, so
in practice you still need to poll to get updated folder views if you
use more than one mail client on a regular basis.

The above having been said, Outlook's IMAP IDLE support isn't fantastic,
Outlook doesn't always notice and reestablish the connection in the
event of a timeout, so it's not quite as good an experience as other
IMAP IDLE capable clients.
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

No, you cant use the old pst. It's how imap works - it keeps copies of the
messages in outlook and it needs to make its own pst.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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Abo said:
Thanks Diane

Ok, looks like this properly became an Outlook question :D When I
configure with the IMAP settings given for Gmail, Outlook sets things up
with a new pst file. It's not a massive deal, but is it possible to make
it work with the original pst file, or replace it, etc. etc.?

Diane Poremsky said:
POP doesn't support idle and the OP said he was using POP. Switching to
IMAP will give the results he wants (mail he's read on the phone or web
is marked read), regardless of Outlook's support of IDLE.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Dave Warren said:
In message <[email protected]> "Diane Poremsky

Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the
mail.
The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' - outlook
should
not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8 minutes.

This really isn't true.

Gmail supports IMAP IDLE, which allows the server to push notifications
to connected clients without the client constantly polling.

However, Google doesn't push all changes via IDLE, only new messages, so
in practice you still need to poll to get updated folder views if you
use more than one mail client on a regular basis.

The above having been said, Outlook's IMAP IDLE support isn't fantastic,
Outlook doesn't always notice and reestablish the connection in the
event of a timeout, so it's not quite as good an experience as other
IMAP IDLE capable clients.
 
A

Abo

How about making the IMAP pst the default? Or is that a no-no?

Diane Poremsky said:
No, you cant use the old pst. It's how imap works - it keeps copies of the
messages in outlook and it needs to make its own pst.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Abo said:
Thanks Diane

Ok, looks like this properly became an Outlook question :D When I
configure with the IMAP settings given for Gmail, Outlook sets things up
with a new pst file. It's not a massive deal, but is it possible to make
it work with the original pst file, or replace it, etc. etc.?

Diane Poremsky said:
POP doesn't support idle and the OP said he was using POP. Switching to
IMAP will give the results he wants (mail he's read on the phone or web
is marked read), regardless of Outlook's support of IDLE.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


In message <[email protected]> "Diane Poremsky

Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the
mail.
The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' - outlook
should
not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8 minutes.

This really isn't true.

Gmail supports IMAP IDLE, which allows the server to push notifications
to connected clients without the client constantly polling.

However, Google doesn't push all changes via IDLE, only new messages,
so
in practice you still need to poll to get updated folder views if you
use more than one mail client on a regular basis.

The above having been said, Outlook's IMAP IDLE support isn't
fantastic,
Outlook doesn't always notice and reestablish the connection in the
event of a timeout, so it's not quite as good an experience as other
IMAP IDLE capable clients.
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

That's a no-no too, since it does not support the special folders -
calendar, contacts, tasks. You can set outlook to open to the imap inbox
and you can move it.

Setting the start up folder -
http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2004/20040427.htm
See http://www.slipstick.com/config/moveimap.asp for moving instructions


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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Abo said:
How about making the IMAP pst the default? Or is that a no-no?

Diane Poremsky said:
No, you cant use the old pst. It's how imap works - it keeps copies of
the messages in outlook and it needs to make its own pst.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Abo said:
Thanks Diane

Ok, looks like this properly became an Outlook question :D When I
configure with the IMAP settings given for Gmail, Outlook sets things up
with a new pst file. It's not a massive deal, but is it possible to make
it work with the original pst file, or replace it, etc. etc.?

POP doesn't support idle and the OP said he was using POP. Switching
to IMAP will give the results he wants (mail he's read on the phone or
web is marked read), regardless of Outlook's support of IDLE.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


In message <[email protected]> "Diane Poremsky

Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the
mail.
The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' - outlook
should
not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8 minutes.

This really isn't true.

Gmail supports IMAP IDLE, which allows the server to push
notifications
to connected clients without the client constantly polling.

However, Google doesn't push all changes via IDLE, only new messages,
so
in practice you still need to poll to get updated folder views if you
use more than one mail client on a regular basis.

The above having been said, Outlook's IMAP IDLE support isn't
fantastic,
Outlook doesn't always notice and reestablish the connection in the
event of a timeout, so it's not quite as good an experience as other
IMAP IDLE capable clients.
 
A

Abo

Perfect! Thank you very much :)

Diane Poremsky said:
That's a no-no too, since it does not support the special folders -
calendar, contacts, tasks. You can set outlook to open to the imap inbox
and you can move it.

Setting the start up folder -
http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2004/20040427.htm
See http://www.slipstick.com/config/moveimap.asp for moving instructions


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Abo said:
How about making the IMAP pst the default? Or is that a no-no?

Diane Poremsky said:
No, you cant use the old pst. It's how imap works - it keeps copies of
the messages in outlook and it needs to make its own pst.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Thanks Diane

Ok, looks like this properly became an Outlook question :D When I
configure with the IMAP settings given for Gmail, Outlook sets things
up with a new pst file. It's not a massive deal, but is it possible to
make it work with the original pst file, or replace it, etc. etc.?

POP doesn't support idle and the OP said he was using POP. Switching
to IMAP will give the results he wants (mail he's read on the phone or
web is marked read), regardless of Outlook's support of IDLE.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


In message <[email protected]> "Diane Poremsky

Gmail doesn't push to outlook. Outlook goes to gmail and collects the
mail.
The phone and desktop should be within 5 minutes of 'sync' - outlook
should
not be set to collect mail any more frequently than 5 - 8 minutes.

This really isn't true.

Gmail supports IMAP IDLE, which allows the server to push
notifications
to connected clients without the client constantly polling.

However, Google doesn't push all changes via IDLE, only new messages,
so
in practice you still need to poll to get updated folder views if you
use more than one mail client on a regular basis.

The above having been said, Outlook's IMAP IDLE support isn't
fantastic,
Outlook doesn't always notice and reestablish the connection in the
event of a timeout, so it's not quite as good an experience as other
IMAP IDLE capable clients.
 

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