Outlook should allow a blocked senders list like outlook express

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scooter

Outlook 2002 does not allow you to manage nor create a blocked senders list
which I found very helpful.
 
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_Vanguard_

scooter said:
Outlook 2002 does not allow you to manage nor create a blocked senders
list
which I found very helpful.


Yeah, like spammers always use the same e-mail address when spewing
their crap. Of course, they would never think of using disposable
webmail accounts, or e-mail aliases (that can be disabled once used), or
one-time use accounts, like Trashmail, or trojanize a slew of idiot PC
boxes to run mail daemons there to spew their crap, or specifying an
innocent's e-mail address which might even be yours. A block list of
e-mail address will not deter receiving spam. The e-mail address you
block today won't be used again by the same abusive sender.

Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: Fred.
You: (Opens door.) What do you want?
Them: (Starts spamming.)
You: (Closes door and adds "Fred" to block list.)
Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: George.
You: (Opens door, see it is Fred aka George, adds "George" to
blocklist.)
Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: Mark.
You: (Opens door, sees Fred aka George aka Mark, adds "Mark" to
blocklist.)
and it continues ad nauseum.

So who is the idiot here? You for thinking the spammer is going to use
their real name or use the same one each time. I've seen users that
have filled up their blocked sender list with 3000 e-mail addresses and
wonder why the spam keeps coming. If you have a really stupid abusive
sender who continually uses the same e-mail address, they also probably
send from the same host and you can report them to DNS blocklists (used
by anti-spam products) and to their upstream provider. A block sender
list that deleted entries after some expiration period would make more
sense but filling up a static list of bogus e-mail addresses is stupid.

I'd like to use greylisting but that can only be implemented at the mail
server. Locally I use anti-spam software since blocking on domains or
e-mail addresses is just plain stupid. One a-hole sends you spam from a
domain so you punish every potential sender from that domain? Yeah,
right. An a-hole sends you spam from [email protected] and you
think they won't change it to [email protected] when they
spew again later? Yeah, right. The blocked senders lists is only
effective against clueless idiots.

By the way, your statement "Outlook 2002 does not allow you to manage
nor create a blocked senders list" is wrong! Go read its help; search
on "blocked sender" or "junk". Or go use Microsoft's support
knowledgebase site; see http://support.microsoft.com/?id=286049.
 
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Brian Tillman

scooter said:
Outlook 2002 does not allow you to manage nor create a blocked
senders list which I found very helpful.

Sure it does. It's called Junk Senders.txt and it's located in
%AppData%\Microsoft\Outlook
 
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Stephan

_Vanguard_ said:
Yeah, like spammers always use the same e-mail address when spewing
their crap. Of course, they would never think of using disposable
webmail accounts, or e-mail aliases (that can be disabled once used), or
one-time use accounts, like Trashmail, or trojanize a slew of idiot PC
boxes to run mail daemons there to spew their crap, or specifying an
innocent's e-mail address which might even be yours. A block list of
e-mail address will not deter receiving spam. The e-mail address you
block today won't be used again by the same abusive sender.

Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: Fred.
You: (Opens door.) What do you want?
Them: (Starts spamming.)
You: (Closes door and adds "Fred" to block list.)
Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: George.
You: (Opens door, see it is Fred aka George, adds "George" to
blocklist.)
Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: Mark.
You: (Opens door, sees Fred aka George aka Mark, adds "Mark" to
blocklist.)
and it continues ad nauseum.

So who is the idiot here? You for thinking the spammer is going to use
their real name or use the same one each time. I've seen users that
have filled up their blocked sender list with 3000 e-mail addresses and
wonder why the spam keeps coming. If you have a really stupid abusive
sender who continually uses the same e-mail address, they also probably
send from the same host and you can report them to DNS blocklists (used
by anti-spam products) and to their upstream provider. A block sender
list that deleted entries after some expiration period would make more
sense but filling up a static list of bogus e-mail addresses is stupid.

I'd like to use greylisting but that can only be implemented at the mail
server. Locally I use anti-spam software since blocking on domains or
e-mail addresses is just plain stupid. One a-hole sends you spam from a
domain so you punish every potential sender from that domain? Yeah,
right. An a-hole sends you spam from [email protected] and you
think they won't change it to [email protected] when they
spew again later? Yeah, right. The blocked senders lists is only
effective against clueless idiots.

By the way, your statement "Outlook 2002 does not allow you to manage
nor create a blocked senders list" is wrong! Go read its help; search
on "blocked sender" or "junk". Or go use Microsoft's support
knowledgebase site; see http://support.microsoft.com/?id=286049.

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Stephan

_Vanguard_ said:
Yeah, like spammers always use the same e-mail address when spewing
their crap. Of course, they would never think of using disposable
webmail accounts, or e-mail aliases (that can be disabled once used), or
one-time use accounts, like Trashmail, or trojanize a slew of idiot PC
boxes to run mail daemons there to spew their crap, or specifying an
innocent's e-mail address which might even be yours. A block list of
e-mail address will not deter receiving spam. The e-mail address you
block today won't be used again by the same abusive sender.

Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: Fred.
You: (Opens door.) What do you want?
Them: (Starts spamming.)
You: (Closes door and adds "Fred" to block list.)
Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: George.
You: (Opens door, see it is Fred aka George, adds "George" to
blocklist.)
Them: Ding dong.
You: Who's there?
Them: Mark.
You: (Opens door, sees Fred aka George aka Mark, adds "Mark" to
blocklist.)
and it continues ad nauseum.

So who is the idiot here? You for thinking the spammer is going to use
their real name or use the same one each time. I've seen users that
have filled up their blocked sender list with 3000 e-mail addresses and
wonder why the spam keeps coming. If you have a really stupid abusive
sender who continually uses the same e-mail address, they also probably
send from the same host and you can report them to DNS blocklists (used
by anti-spam products) and to their upstream provider. A block sender
list that deleted entries after some expiration period would make more
sense but filling up a static list of bogus e-mail addresses is stupid.

I'd like to use greylisting but that can only be implemented at the mail
server. Locally I use anti-spam software since blocking on domains or
e-mail addresses is just plain stupid. One a-hole sends you spam from a
domain so you punish every potential sender from that domain? Yeah,
right. An a-hole sends you spam from [email protected] and you
think they won't change it to [email protected] when they
spew again later? Yeah, right. The blocked senders lists is only
effective against clueless idiots.

By the way, your statement "Outlook 2002 does not allow you to manage
nor create a blocked senders list" is wrong! Go read its help; search
on "blocked sender" or "junk". Or go use Microsoft's support
knowledgebase site; see http://support.microsoft.com/?id=286049.

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While I agree with the forgoing, I would add the following. Although spammers seem to alway use a different overall email address, I find that oftentimes the domain names are the same. So what I have been doing is to add all the domain names to my blocked senders list, without the info that appears before the @ sign. While it does take some time to build a list of spamming domain names, the likelyhood that it will catch and send the spammers to the junk mail folder are increased. Of course, this technique will not catch those spammers that use the legitimate domains like hotmail or yahoo, as I do not want these domain names in the blocked sender category as it is much more likely that you will get legitimate mail from friends using these domains.
 
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