Page check please - can't get layout right?

T

Terry Pinnell

Could someone be kind enough to take a quick look at this page please:
http://www.cupod-mentoring.com/uctc-2005comments.htm

I just cannot understand why I can't get it within an 800 x 600 page.
as I can with other broadly similar pages, such as
http://www.cupod-mentoring.com/Uckfield1.htm

I've made the overall outlying table a width of 100% (and I also tried
leaving it unspecified altogether). I've ensured no individual cell
has a width specified. The pictures are all a max width of 300 pixels.
But still it won't fit ;-(
 
S

Steve Easton

Both closing table tags: </table> are at the bottom of the page.
You need to move one up to the point just before you open the second table.


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T

Terry Pinnell

Steve Easton said:
Both closing table tags: </table> are at the bottom of the page.
You need to move one up to the point just before you open the second table.
Click to expand...

Thanks Steve - but I can't find that in the FP HTML! A search finds
only one table opening tag, and one table closing tag. How does the
second one you spotted get into the Source?

See samples below:

FP 2000 HTML window: first few lines
------------------------------------
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>

<head>
<title>Uckfield Trainee Feedback 2005</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="cupod_css1.css">
</head>

<body>

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr>
<td width="146" height="143" align="left">

<p align="center"><img border="0"
src="images/logo_smoothed111b.gif" width="116" height="111"></p>

ETC

FP 2000 HTML window: last few lines
------------------------------------

<img border="0"
src="images/PGCESecondPlacementTrainees300x200.jpg" width="300"
height="200"><br>
PGCE Second Placement Trainees</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="left" valign="top" height="35"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="center" colspan="2">

<p align="center">&nbsp;

<p align="center"><b>This is Page 6. Other Uckfield Teacher
Training
Pages:<a href="uckfield1.htm"><br>
Page 1</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="uckfield2.htm">Page
2</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</b><a href="uckfield3.htm"><b>Page
3</b></a><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="uckfield4.htm">Page 4</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a
href="uckfield5.htm">Page
5</a></b></p>

<p><img border="0" src="images/acnvrule600-t.gif" width="580"
height="9"></p>
<!--webbot bot="Include" u-include="bottom_links1.htm"
tag="BODY" --></td>
</tr>
</table> ******* ONLY ONE OF THESE ************

</body>

</html>
====================

View>Source
-----------
<center>
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="4">
<tr>
<td><a href="default.htm"><b>Home</b></a></td>
<td><a href="schools.htm"><b>Schools</b></a></td>
<td><a href="links.htm"><b>Ext. Links</b></a></td>

<td><a href="resources.htm"><b>Resources</b></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="projects2003.htm"><b>Projects</b></a></td>
<td><b>&nbsp;<a href="glossary.htm">Glossary</a></b></td>
<td><a href="cupod_team.htm">CUPOD Team</a></td>
<td><a href="mailto:[email protected]"><b>Contact
Us</b></a></td>

</tr>
</table>
</center>

<!--webbot bot="Include" endspan i-checksum="50815" --></td>
</tr>
</table>

</body>

</html>
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Are you using any shared borders or FP includes?

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T

Terry Pinnell

Terry Pinnell said:
Thanks Steve - but I can't find that in the FP HTML! A search finds
only one table opening tag, and one table closing tag. How does the
second one you spotted get into the Source?
Click to expand...

[snip]

After a few minutes further study, I think that's a side issue anyway
Steve. To answer my own question, that extra code is just the little
table added at the bottom of all pages by FP. That's why it's not in
Source. And no effect on the page width.
 
T

Terry Pinnell

Thomas A. Rowe said:
Are you using any shared borders or FP includes?
Click to expand...

Our posts must have crossed, Thomas. See my quick follow-up to Steve.
Yes, I am, so that's unrelated to my sizing problem.

I'm in the course of rebuilding the page, and one thing is very
obvious: you just cannot rely on Cell Properties of FP 2000 to tell
you anything useful. For example, in 3 cells alongside each other,
left to right, the first is 146, the second 344, and the third 490
pixels according to individual readings obtained by r-clicking each
and looking at Cell Properties. (Note: solid check marks within the
Specify Width box.) That's a total of 980. Yet Preview in Browser and
the published page at this stage both display the page *completely*
with no scrolling within an 800 pixel wide window!
 
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