Password Crack

[JE McGimpsey]

I certainly respect that choice. I just get irritated with those who
censure others who make a different one. There are plenty of posts that
I don't respond to because they seem "off". But that's it - I don't tell
them they shouldn't be asking.

 

[Peter Foldes]

NO. His name was and is Jeff. His fathers name is Michael . There is a Publication ban on children under a certain age and his first name was never mentioned. His Family name was as was his Fathers and Mothers first names

 

[JE McGimpsey]

Slam dunk.

?? The fairy tale I was referring to was that somehow giving a password
crack to a teenager turned him into MafiaBoy. Nobody disputes that what
he did was wrong, but perhaps having a criminal for a father was a
bigger, more pervasive influence.

In any case, single anecdotes are a horrible basis for making policy. I
could list dozens of anecdotes about businesses that were saved by
cracking the passwords of critical XL files that malicious employees
wouldn't divulge. That would be a lousy reason to base policy on, too.

Instead, an evaluation of legitimate needs, widely available solutions,
and a lack of any legal or contractual basis to judge that cracking
Office passwords is inherently illegal or immoral is a better standard.

 

[JE McGimpsey]

Interesting. His father's name was reported by the Washington Post and
USA Today as "John Calce".

 

[Peter Foldes]

His Family name is correct . But his first name is Michael. I am going over in a bit to ask him why it is listed as John in the Papers you said. I will get back to you in a bit.

 

[Peter Foldes]

I just came from Michaels place. His wife said (he is not home)but that his full name is Jean(that is John in Eng.)Michael Calce. Only using Michael which is how we all no him. Only on paper will he use Jean(John) .. This I was not aware of and also here when it was in the paper and TV it always did say Michael. We all know as Michael and call him Mike and or Miki. Thanks for that bit of info. Now we can bug him and say HEY JM ..lol
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His Family name is correct . But his first name is Michael. I am going over in a bit to ask him why it is listed as John in the Papers you said. I will get back to you in a bit.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

What I say to my husband or think to myself about some posts is something
I'd never put down in writing. ;-)

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

 

[Tushar Mehta]

Slam dunk what?

According to some guy, he had his computers taken away by the cops
because his son played with some guy across the street that the cops
were investigating.

How does that have *any* thing to do with password protecting/hacking
an XL file?

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Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
Custom MS Office productivity solutions

 

[Tushar Mehta]

I just don't answer questions about how to break into files or where to find
bogus product IDs. There's no way to tell if the OP is telling the truth or
not when they say it's their file/program. If someone else chooses to
respond, that's their choice. I choose not to take the chance of aiding and
abetting.

That would be just fine. But, that is not what you did in this
discussion. You, and others, are (a) presuming guilt and (b) preaching
about the same.

I *do* stay away from such requests. In those instances where I
respond, it is along the lines of "search google...do ensure you are OK
with IP/copyright laws..."

What I find interesting is that if one starts with the presumption of
guilt, how does one help anyone on the 'Net? Just about *any* request
could be from a student violating her/his code of conduct and asking
for help with h/w.

Any attempt to access a file could be an attempt to hack into the file
("I need to get data from a file on the network server" or "I have to
access data in a file I cannot open").

Heck, even a request to add a watermark to a document could be an
illegal act. Maybe the document was written by someone else and this
person wants to steal it and put her/his name on it!

How does one stop the paranoia if we start with the presumption of the
guilt just because we don't know the person?

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Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
Custom MS Office productivity solutions

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

We can't know what's in the hearts and minds of others. We can know what
makes us feel uncomfortable. I'd much rather err on the side of caution that
to help someone violate a law, a company policy, another person's copyright,
or a friend/family member's trust.

I have to do what I think is right, as do you. I have my hands full with my
own set of personal morals and ethics without trying to impose them on
others.

 

[Don Guillett]

Perhaps it is due to a "guilty conscience"

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

No, not at all. It's what happens when you've matured enough to know what's
right in your heart.

 

[KL]

Well, some would say "maturity" is about undrestanding how little one really
knows or the meaning of "Judge not, that ye be not judged..."

Regards,
KL

No, not at all. It's what happens when you've matured enough to know
what's right in your heart.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Perhaps it is due to a "guilty conscience"

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

I'm the first to admit that I don't know everything. But It's taken me a
very long time to get to this level of understanding myself and knowing
better than to do things that make me uncomfortable. Because I *don't* know
the truth about the situation of a person who needs a crack (but seems to
know the term) I prefer to stay out of it.

Perhaps when you're my age, you'll appreciate that.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Well, some would say "maturity" is about undrestanding how little one
really knows or the meaning of "Judge not, that ye be not judged..."

Regards,
KL

No, not at all. It's what happens when you've matured enough to know
what's right in your heart.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Perhaps it is due to a "guilty conscience"

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Don Guillett
SalesAid Software
(e-mail address removed)
message
I just don't answer questions about how to break into files or where
to
find
bogus product IDs. There's no way to tell if the OP is telling the
truth
or
not when they say it's their file/program. If someone else chooses to
respond, that's their choice. I choose not to take the chance of
aiding
and
abetting.


That would be just fine. But, that is not what you did in this
discussion. You, and others, are (a) presuming guilt and (b) preaching
about the same.

I *do* stay away from such requests. In those instances where I
respond, it is along the lines of "search google...do ensure you are OK
with IP/copyright laws..."

What I find interesting is that if one starts with the presumption of
guilt, how does one help anyone on the 'Net? Just about *any* request
could be from a student violating her/his code of conduct and asking
for help with h/w.

Any attempt to access a file could be an attempt to hack into the file
("I need to get data from a file on the network server" or "I have to
access data in a file I cannot open").

Heck, even a request to add a watermark to a document could be an
illegal act. Maybe the document was written by someone else and this
person wants to steal it and put her/his name on it!

How does one stop the paranoia if we start with the presumption of the
guilt just because we don't know the person?

--
Regards,

Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
Custom MS Office productivity solutions

 

[KL]

Perhaps when you're my age, you'll appreciate that.

Well, who knows! Maybe I will... or maybe I will not have another chance to
be your age How do you know mine?

Regards,
KL

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

Do you remember when Telstar made the news? Satellite or song - take your
pick?

 

[JE McGimpsey]

I have my hands full with my own set of personal morals and ethics
without trying to impose them on others.

Yet you did so in your first post of this thread...

I'm confused.

 

[Lomax]

I have got to ask..

Eric,
Did you open the file?

Lomax

 

[JE McGimpsey]

I never told anyone that they should or should not respond to the request
for a crack. I've only said that I am skeptical about anyone who wants one.

I was referring to your telling the OP

It sounded to me like an attempt to impose your morals and ethics.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

Nope, just making a suggestion. Imposing my morals would be "Don't do that
because ....." or "It's a sin to .....". I didn't do either - I just
suggested that maybe they shouldn't be trying to break into the file.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]