Personal Address Book vs. Contacts

[LMantanona]

Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is there any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to contacts?

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]]

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability. It's had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

 

[mvince]

That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could simply type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill in the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution lists a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of luck.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.

 

[CKohlman]

I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone. No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than 100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of luck.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than 100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[CKohlman]

One can dig a ditch with a spoon as well, but it's not very effecient. Same
with my situation. I can scroll through <100 entries selecting the email
address I want to send to or I can scroll through 5000. Or I suppose I can go
through all 5000 CONTACT entries and reclassify them somehow to make
sublists, or create multiple CONTACT folders, or on and on. OR, just continue
to use the simple and effective PAB without and further overhead and/or grief.

The big question here is: Did Microsoft pull the plug on using PABs in the
manner that I want to use them as you say? I was using my PAB just fine in
OUTLOOK 2003 before I let our HelpDesk turn my environment upside down and
render using the PAB much harder to administer (especially adding addresses
easily by right clicking on an address and adding it to the PAB). I can still
use my PAB but adding addresses requires opening the PAB and adding a new
entry. This is not difficult but not as easy as right clicking on an address.

If there is no longer any support for the PAB, did this come about as a
result of a maintenance upgrade since OUTLOOK 2003 was released?

If you've got a solution to my problem that involves using CONTACTs without
the neccisity of spending hours and hours converting, I'm all ears. Change is
good when it results in improved productivity, the amount of which should
justify the effort to inact the change.

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than 100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

The PAB was dropped simply because there was no need for it and it made no
sense to store Contacts in two separate places. Using Contacts and the
Outlook Address Book provides far more robust options than the PAB ever did.
Clarify what you want to do that you can't figure out. There should be no
difference in functionality here. There is no more reason you should have to
scroll through countless Contacts with the Outlook Address Book than there
was in the PAB. They would contain the same number of Contacts.
It seems to me you just need to figure out better ways of organizing your
Contacts will serve your needs. Creating separate Contacts subfolders or
using categories should provide what you need.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

One can dig a ditch with a spoon as well, but it's not very effecient. Same
with my situation. I can scroll through <100 entries selecting the email
address I want to send to or I can scroll through 5000. Or I suppose I can go
through all 5000 CONTACT entries and reclassify them somehow to make
sublists, or create multiple CONTACT folders, or on and on. OR, just continue
to use the simple and effective PAB without and further overhead and/or grief.

The big question here is: Did Microsoft pull the plug on using PABs in the
manner that I want to use them as you say? I was using my PAB just fine in
OUTLOOK 2003 before I let our HelpDesk turn my environment upside down and
render using the PAB much harder to administer (especially adding addresses
easily by right clicking on an address and adding it to the PAB). I can still
use my PAB but adding addresses requires opening the PAB and adding a new
entry. This is not difficult but not as easy as right clicking on an address.

If there is no longer any support for the PAB, did this come about as a
result of a maintenance upgrade since OUTLOOK 2003 was released?

If you've got a solution to my problem that involves using CONTACTs without
the neccisity of spending hours and hours converting, I'm all ears. Change is
good when it results in improved productivity, the amount of which should
justify the effort to inact the change.

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than 100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

:

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[CKohlman]

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it. My contacts folder has 5000
entries in it. My PAB has less than 100(all email addresses I send to
regularly). I create an email, then go to address book, scroll down the list
of less than 100 entries, clicking and adding them to the TO, CC, BCC fields
as necessary. Then I send the email. If I had to use the contact folder, I
would have to go through all 5000 selecting the addresses I want to send to.
My point is that the PAB is much better suited to doing that than using the
contact folder as it exists now. My contact folder has 50 times more entries
than my PAB. All I want to do is quickly pick from a short list of email
addresses. BTW, the addresses may change from email to email depending on
content and intended receipient.

It used to work just fine until I was talked into copying my PAB to
contacts. Then the capability to right click on an address and put it in my
PAB was lost. At that point, using the contacts to select email addresses
was cumbersome and time consuming. All addresses in my PAB are also in
Contacts but not all Contacts are in my PAB. The PAB is so easy to use
because of its smaller size in entries than contacts.

The PAB was dropped simply because there was no need for it and it made no
sense to store Contacts in two separate places. Using Contacts and the
Outlook Address Book provides far more robust options than the PAB ever did.
Clarify what you want to do that you can't figure out. There should be no
difference in functionality here. There is no more reason you should have to
scroll through countless Contacts with the Outlook Address Book than there
was in the PAB. They would contain the same number of Contacts.
It seems to me you just need to figure out better ways of organizing your
Contacts will serve your needs. Creating separate Contacts subfolders or
using categories should provide what you need.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

One can dig a ditch with a spoon as well, but it's not very effecient. Same
with my situation. I can scroll through <100 entries selecting the email
address I want to send to or I can scroll through 5000. Or I suppose I can go
through all 5000 CONTACT entries and reclassify them somehow to make
sublists, or create multiple CONTACT folders, or on and on. OR, just continue
to use the simple and effective PAB without and further overhead and/or grief.

The big question here is: Did Microsoft pull the plug on using PABs in the
manner that I want to use them as you say? I was using my PAB just fine in
OUTLOOK 2003 before I let our HelpDesk turn my environment upside down and
render using the PAB much harder to administer (especially adding addresses
easily by right clicking on an address and adding it to the PAB). I can still
use my PAB but adding addresses requires opening the PAB and adding a new
entry. This is not difficult but not as easy as right clicking on an address.

If there is no longer any support for the PAB, did this come about as a
result of a maintenance upgrade since OUTLOOK 2003 was released?

If you've got a solution to my problem that involves using CONTACTs without
the neccisity of spending hours and hours converting, I'm all ears. Change is
good when it results in improved productivity, the amount of which should
justify the effort to inact the change.

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than 100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

:

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

You can make it a lot clearer.
Explain, for example, why your PAB contains so many fewer Contacts than your
Contacts Folder. Then explain why you cannot create the same type of Contact
subset using different Contact subfolders or categories.
Sorry I can't get through to you. You used the PAB to create a subset of
your Contacts. You can still do the same thing.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it. My contacts folder has 5000
entries in it. My PAB has less than 100(all email addresses I send to
regularly). I create an email, then go to address book, scroll down the list
of less than 100 entries, clicking and adding them to the TO, CC, BCC fields
as necessary. Then I send the email. If I had to use the contact folder, I
would have to go through all 5000 selecting the addresses I want to send to.
My point is that the PAB is much better suited to doing that than using the
contact folder as it exists now. My contact folder has 50 times more entries
than my PAB. All I want to do is quickly pick from a short list of email
addresses. BTW, the addresses may change from email to email depending on
content and intended receipient.

It used to work just fine until I was talked into copying my PAB to
contacts. Then the capability to right click on an address and put it in my
PAB was lost. At that point, using the contacts to select email addresses
was cumbersome and time consuming. All addresses in my PAB are also in
Contacts but not all Contacts are in my PAB. The PAB is so easy to use
because of its smaller size in entries than contacts.

The PAB was dropped simply because there was no need for it and it made no
sense to store Contacts in two separate places. Using Contacts and the
Outlook Address Book provides far more robust options than the PAB ever did.
Clarify what you want to do that you can't figure out. There should be no
difference in functionality here. There is no more reason you should have to
scroll through countless Contacts with the Outlook Address Book than there
was in the PAB. They would contain the same number of Contacts.
It seems to me you just need to figure out better ways of organizing your
Contacts will serve your needs. Creating separate Contacts subfolders or
using categories should provide what you need.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

One can dig a ditch with a spoon as well, but it's not very effecient. Same
with my situation. I can scroll through <100 entries selecting the email
address I want to send to or I can scroll through 5000. Or I suppose I

can
go

through all 5000 CONTACT entries and reclassify them somehow to make
sublists, or create multiple CONTACT folders, or on and on. OR, just continue
to use the simple and effective PAB without and further overhead

and/or
grief.

The big question here is: Did Microsoft pull the plug on using PABs in the
manner that I want to use them as you say? I was using my PAB just fine in
OUTLOOK 2003 before I let our HelpDesk turn my environment upside down and
render using the PAB much harder to administer (especially adding addresses
easily by right clicking on an address and adding it to the PAB). I

can
still

use my PAB but adding addresses requires opening the PAB and adding a new
entry. This is not difficult but not as easy as right clicking on an address.

If there is no longer any support for the PAB, did this come about as a
result of a maintenance upgrade since OUTLOOK 2003 was released?

If you've got a solution to my problem that involves using CONTACTs without
the neccisity of spending hours and hours converting, I'm all ears.

Change
is

good when it results in improved productivity, the amount of which should
justify the effort to inact the change.
:

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do

with
the

Outlook Address Book.

and
was

less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I

let
our

company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and

they
still

have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all

that
is

available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy

since
I

scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less

than
100

entries to scroll through versus 5000.

:

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.

enter
quick

names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook

would
fill

in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click

of
the

mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically

use
client

info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the

creation
of

a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard

drive of
a

laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more

features,
is

there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[Sys Admin]

For the past ten years our office has had one person update contacts in the
PAB and then save a copy onto our network. When the users log in to the
network a script copies this into the user's hard drive, clean and simple.
We have over about 700 contacts that are updated on a daily basis and this
way only one person has to make the changes for the entire group. How could
you possibly do this in Contacts without having do run and Export and Import
every single morning for everyone in the office?

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than 100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[Roady [MVP]]

Share the contacts folder in a mailbox or Public Folder. Eliminates the
script as well.



-----

For the past ten years our office has had one person update contacts in
the
PAB and then save a copy onto our network. When the users log in to the
network a script copies this into the user's hard drive, clean and simple.
We have over about 700 contacts that are updated on a daily basis and this
way only one person has to make the changes for the entire group. How
could
you possibly do this in Contacts without having do run and Export and
Import
every single morning for everyone in the office?

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with
the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and
was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let
our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they
still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is
gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that
is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than
100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

:

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter
quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would
fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of
the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use
client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation
of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of
a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



message
Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[Sys Admin]

That works except you lose the versatility of sharing with those not on your
Network. You can just add the file to your ftp site and all the stores
across the country also have the latest version.

Share the contacts folder in a mailbox or Public Folder. Eliminates the
script as well.



-----

For the past ten years our office has had one person update contacts in
the
PAB and then save a copy onto our network. When the users log in to the
network a script copies this into the user's hard drive, clean and simple.
We have over about 700 contacts that are updated on a daily basis and this
way only one person has to make the changes for the entire group. How
could
you possibly do this in Contacts without having do run and Export and
Import
every single morning for everyone in the office?

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with
the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and
was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let
our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they
still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is
gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that
is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than
100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

:

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter
quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would
fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of
the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use
client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation
of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of
a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



message
Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?

 

[Sys Admin]

You seem to lose the search capabilities using the contacts also, even when
setting properly in the setup of which address book to use when. For
example. We have store numbers for each of our outlets and these are in
their display names. If I want to send an email to store 300 I type 300 into
the To line and hit tab and it looks up in the PAB automatically. If store
300 is in contacts and not in the PAB and I hit tab then I get a not found
message and I am prompted to search for more contacts. Time consuming...

That works except you lose the versatility of sharing with those not on your
Network. You can just add the file to your ftp site and all the stores
across the country also have the latest version.

Share the contacts folder in a mailbox or Public Folder. Eliminates the
script as well.

For the past ten years our office has had one person update contacts in
the
PAB and then save a copy onto our network. When the users log in to the
network a script copies this into the user's hard drive, clean and simple.
We have over about 700 contacts that are updated on a daily basis and this
way only one person has to make the changes for the entire group. How
could
you possibly do this in Contacts without having do run and Export and
Import
every single morning for everyone in the office?

:

You can't nor should you. PAB's have been deprecated and are no longer
supported. There is nothing you can do with a PAB that you can't do with
the
Outlook Address Book.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I use my PAB in the exact way that MVINCE does/did. It worked great and
was
less cumbersome than using my CONTACTS which has nearly 5000 entries.

I USED to be able to right click on an email address in an open message
and
ADD TO PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which was terrific. However, after I let
our
company helpdesk talk me into migrating my PAB entries to CONTACTS (big
mistake, it took many hours to clean out my CONTACT folder, and they
still
have no clue why I would want to continue to use a PAB when they think
CONTACTS is the end all for everyone), the option to ADD TO PAB is
gone.
No
matter what I have tried, I cannot resurrect that option. Now all that
is
available is ADD TO CONTACT which I DON'T want to do.

How do I restore the capability to ADD TO PAB by right clicking on an
email
address? Using the PAB for email address selection is very easy since I
scroll down the list picking what addresses I want. That's less than
100
entries to scroll through versus 5000.

:

What feature is it that you think the PAB provided that the Outlook
Address
Book Service does not? I see nothing on your list.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That is not true at all. I used to use the PAB at work to enter
quick
names
for all my clients along with their email address. Then, I could
simply
type
a few letters when sending that client an email and Outlook would
fill
in
the
rest for me automatically, saving a lot of time on long addresses.
Additionally, the personal address book made compiling distribution
lists
a
snap because I could just add people to my lists with the click of
the
mouse.

The contacts feature is great if you want to save everything on your
clients, but it is much more cumbersome for what I typically use
client
info
for. The newest edition of Outlook doesn't even allow the creation
of
a
personal addres book, and my old ones were saved to a hard drive of
a
laptop
that was recently stolen. That appears to mean I am simply out of
luck.

:

None whatsoever. PAB support is provided for backward compability.
It's
had
the same functionality since the Exchagne client before OL97.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



message
Since Contacts stay with mail account and offer more features, is
there
any
benefit to staying with a .pab file instead of importing to
contacts?