Poor Webmaster Personal Sites

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Stephen Horrillo

There's something that's been bothering me and I hope it's not taken the
wrong way. Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
amateurish personal (and professional) websites. They sound so knowledgeable
in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them. Is it
because they're working so hard on other people's sites they neglect their
own? Sort of like the gourmet chef that eats TV dinner when he gets home
from work. I've known some maids and house cleaners whose home's were as
dirty as can be. Is it that sort of syndrome of are these people just full
of it?

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Warmest regards,

Stephen Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht.
For MLS & Computer Training: http://www.BrokerAgentTraining.com
Realtors Earn Over 100% at EXIT: http://www.over100percent.com
 
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Greywyvern

Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
amateurish personal (and professional) websites. They sound so
knowledgeable
in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them.
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You should talk...

Oh, wait, you x-posted to mpfc. That explains it.

Grey
 
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Tom Pepper Willett

Be specific about sites you are referring to. And people you are referring
to. Otherwise, we don't know what you are referring to.

Provide specifics to your criticiism...

And, I would further request you give us your credentials that entitle you
to make these comments.

So we can all learn...


Thanks.'


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| There's something that's been bothering me and I hope it's not taken the
| wrong way. Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
| amateurish personal (and professional) websites. They sound so
knowledgeable
| in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them. Is
it
| because they're working so hard on other people's sites they neglect their
| own? Sort of like the gourmet chef that eats TV dinner when he gets home
| from work. I've known some maids and house cleaners whose home's were as
| dirty as can be. Is it that sort of syndrome of are these people just full
| of it?
|
| --
| Warmest regards,
|
| Stephen Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht.
| For MLS & Computer Training: http://www.BrokerAgentTraining.com
| Realtors Earn Over 100% at EXIT: http://www.over100percent.com
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

Let not start this cross-posting again, as this is the same individual that start this before.

Remove "alt.www.webmaster" when replying

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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B

Blinky the Shark

Stephen said:
There's something that's been bothering me and I hope it's not taken the
wrong way. Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
amateurish personal (and professional) websites. They sound so knowledgeable
in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them. Is it
Click to expand...

You accidentally posted this to alt.www.webmaster, too.
 
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Windsun

Well:

HTML Validation Result
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http://www.over100percent.com/

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William Tasso

There's something that's been bothering me and I hope it's not taken the
wrong way.
Cobblers

Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
amateurish personal (and professional) websites.
Cobblers

They sound so knowledgeable
in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them.
Cobblers

Is it because they're working so hard on other people's sites they
neglect their own?
Cobblers

Sort of like the gourmet chef that eats TV dinner when he gets home
from work.
Shoes

I've known some maids and house cleaners whose home's were as
dirty as can be.
Click to expand...

Just their homes? wait till I write that book ...
Is it that sort of syndrome of are these people just full of it?
Click to expand...

Cobblers shoes
 
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saz

There's something that's been bothering me and I hope it's not taken the
wrong way. Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
amateurish personal (and professional) websites. They sound so knowledgeable
in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them. Is it
because they're working so hard on other people's sites they neglect their
own? Sort of like the gourmet chef that eats TV dinner when he gets home
from work. I've known some maids and house cleaners whose home's were as
dirty as can be. Is it that sort of syndrome of are these people just full
of it?
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You mean they look like your sites - hideous? Isn't this the pot
calling the kettle black?

You need to make your sites much more attractive before you have any
right to criticize others.
 
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Trevor L.

Well, I think we're being a bit picky.

The message "NAME must be a single token" happens for any FrontPage site
from which these meta tags have not been removed.

<style> without a type= is incorrect but not all that bad

The only really crook bit is not having a DOCTYPE

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Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au


I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
 
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Linda R

Stephen said:
There's something that's been bothering me and I hope it's not taken the
wrong way. Why is it that the Web Designers on these groups have such
amateurish personal (and professional) websites. They sound so knowledgeable
in what they say but most sites look like a 10 year old designed them.
Click to expand...

Web design and Web development are two different things. You wouldn't
hire a mechanical engineer to paint a portrait, or an artist to design a
transfer street for an engine test stand, would you? It's pretty rare
for someone to be as good at design as they are at markup and coding,
and vice versa. Most of the good folks who give technical advice in
forums like this are brilliant at markup and scripting. They probably
subcontract designers for their professional work, but don't bother for
their personal sites.
 
B

Baho Utot

It's about the glass houses effect.
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Glass houses? I don't think I have ever seen one of those. What does it
look like and how does one bath etc. Won't everyone be watching?
 
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HomeNews

Touche' Linda

What I'd like to know, upon reading all these posts and who posted them, why
hasn't the guy replied to anyone? Who was that masked man, a fly by critic?
Go away!
 
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William Tasso

...
Who was that masked man ...
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well - he's not from A.W.W, I suspect everyone here thought he was a reg
at M.P.FP.C

A bit too soon after his last hit to gen too much passion I hope - we'll
see.
 
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Stephen Horrillo

Be specific about sites you are referring to. And people you are referring

to. Otherwise, we don't know what you are referring to.

Provide specifics to your criticiism...

And, I would further request you give us your credentials that entitle you

to make these comments.

So we can all learn...
Click to expand...

I'm speaking from the eyes of a consumer. I have NO right to comment from a
technical standpoint. All I can tell you is I haven't found one single site
that I like. They seem to be all ... barren. That's the best word that comes
to mind. Poor choice of fonts. Very few graphics. Just an awkward feel when
navigating the sites. Being that Microsoft is the standard, why not mimic
the XP colors and style Microsoft uses? I would think people are more use to
that look and feel. I'm sure my sites suck too but as I'm learning I'm
trying to move in the direction of the "XP/Microsoft look." See
http:/www.brokeragenttraining.com/CMS

BTW I'm also a hypnotherapist so I know from experience people are
predominantly visual and known to respond well to the XP choice of colors.
MS sites seem to invoke a sense of relaxation and trust. Not that I do trust
MS, but their sites give me that sort of feeling.

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Warmest regards,

Stephen Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht.
For MLS & Computer Training: http://www.BrokerAgentTraining.com
Realtors Earn Over 100% at EXIT: http://www.over100percent.com
 

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