prevent photo or image theft from website

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Mauigentleman13

Is there any way to keep website visitors from taking the photos. I visited
one site and when attempting to right click a photo text came up that stated
"Please ask before taking." and I was unable to save the photo to my hard
drive. Is it possible to do something like this in Front Page 2003?
 
K

Kevin Spencer

No, there is not. In fact, although you were unable to save the photo to
your hard drive, it was because of ignorance on your part, not because of
the "no right-click" script, which is an amateur tactic that accomplishes
nothing. In fact, if you see the image in your browser, it is already on
your hard drive, in your Temporary Internet Files folder.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
M

mauigentleman13

Thank you for your quick response.

Kevin Spencer said:
No, there is not. In fact, although you were unable to save the photo to
your hard drive, it was because of ignorance on your part, not because of
the "no right-click" script, which is an amateur tactic that accomplishes
nothing. In fact, if you see the image in your browser, it is already on
your hard drive, in your Temporary Internet Files folder.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

How do I stop people from downloading my graphics or code?

http://www.digitalmidget.com/help/noclick/index.php

http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/web1/how_do_i_stop_downloading.htm

http://www.jimcoaddins.com/protect.htm
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message | Is there any way to keep website visitors from taking the photos. I
visited
| one site and when attempting to right click a photo text came up that
stated
| "Please ask before taking." and I was unable to save the photo to my hard
| drive. Is it possible to do something like this in Front Page 2003?
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Try this link you might find it helpful.

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!

The referenced software is a piece of crap. For example, it advertises that
it prevents right-clicking. Is that supposed to prevent anyone from getting
an image? Here's a link to the image in the first "protected" page:

http://www.mtopsoft.com//res/mtopsoft.jpg

How did I get it? I used the View|Source menu item, found the reference to
the image, tacked the URL onto the domain root url, and there you go.

In addition, it uses JavaScript and cheap obfuscation to make it difficult
to find your password. The password is IN the JavaScript, but it's
obfuscated. It's a simple matter to translate it back into readable
JavaScript. If the browser can read it, so can you. It is, after all, just
script.

Here are some of the "security" features it purports to provide, and why it
doesn't:

Disable right mouse click. - This accomplishes nothing, other than p**sing
people off. It's pure amateur.

Disable text selection. - Assuming that there is some REASON for this, it
doesn't accomplish it. Since it uses client-side JavaScript, and you can
view the HTML/JavaScript source, it's a simple matter to save the HTML
document, edit out the JavaScript, and you can sleect text all day long.

Disable links display in status bar. - Although there does seem to be some
demand for this (mostly from unscrupulous webmasters, running porn sites and
such), it is easily accomplished with a snippet of JavaScript, which you can
write for FREE.

Disable page printing. - Again, as you can copy and edit the page, and run
it in a browser without all the "security" in it, you can easily print the
page as well.

Disable off-line page viewing. - Try File|Save As... in your browser. If
you're using IE, not only will it save the file anywhere you want so that
you can view it offline, it even downloads ALL the images in the page and
saves them in a special folder it creates for the offline web page.

Ask any FrontPage MVP.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
What You Seek Is What You Get.
 
M

Mike Mueller

Doesn't even need to be an MVP.

The only way to stop theft of text, images, or markup is to
not publish it.




message :> Try this link you might find it helpful.
: > http://www.mtopsoft.com/
:
: AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!
:
: The referenced software is a piece of crap. For example,
it advertises that
: it prevents right-clicking. Is that supposed to prevent
anyone from getting
: an image? Here's a link to the image in the first
"protected" page:
:
: http://www.mtopsoft.com//res/mtopsoft.jpg
:
: How did I get it? I used the View|Source menu item, found
the reference to
: the image, tacked the URL onto the domain root url, and
there you go.
:
: In addition, it uses JavaScript and cheap obfuscation to
make it difficult
: to find your password. The password is IN the JavaScript,
but it's
: obfuscated. It's a simple matter to translate it back into
readable
: JavaScript. If the browser can read it, so can you. It is,
after all, just
: script.
:
: Here are some of the "security" features it purports to
provide, and why it
: doesn't:
:
: Disable right mouse click. - This accomplishes nothing,
other than p**sing
: people off. It's pure amateur.
:
: Disable text selection. - Assuming that there is some
REASON for this, it
: doesn't accomplish it. Since it uses client-side
JavaScript, and you can
: view the HTML/JavaScript source, it's a simple matter to
save the HTML
: document, edit out the JavaScript, and you can sleect text
all day long.
:
: Disable links display in status bar. - Although there does
seem to be some
: demand for this (mostly from unscrupulous webmasters,
running porn sites and
: such), it is easily accomplished with a snippet of
JavaScript, which you can
: write for FREE.
:
: Disable page printing. - Again, as you can copy and edit
the page, and run
: it in a browser without all the "security" in it, you can
easily print the
: page as well.
:
: Disable off-line page viewing. - Try File|Save As... in
your browser. If
: you're using IE, not only will it save the file anywhere
you want so that
: you can view it offline, it even downloads ALL the images
in the page and
: saves them in a special folder it creates for the offline
web page.
:
: Ask any FrontPage MVP.
:
: --
: HTH,
:
: Kevin Spencer
: Microsoft MVP
: .Net Developer
: What You Seek Is What You Get.
:
: : > Try this link you might find it helpful.
: > http://www.mtopsoft.com/
: > rcla396
: >
: > "Mauigentleman13"
: > message
: >> Is there any way to keep website visitors from taking
the photos. I
: >> visited
: >> one site and when attempting to right click a photo
text came up that
: >> stated
: >> "Please ask before taking." and I was unable to save
the photo to my hard
: >> drive. Is it possible to do something like this in
Front Page 2003?
: >
: >
:
:
 
C

Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage

While all the comments given to you are correct. If you have valuable
pictures that must be shown on the web, you can always use this:
http://digimark.com/
and let their tracking system inform you of thieves, who you can
aggressively follow up on.

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
a fantastic convenience for site owners.
http://contentseed.com/
 
J

Jim Cheshire \(JIMCO\)

Kevin said:
AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!

The referenced software is a piece of crap. For example, it
advertises that it prevents right-clicking. Is that supposed to
prevent anyone from getting an image? Here's a link to the image in
the first "protected" page:

They use the same method as other products that claim to do the same thing.
They are rip-offs and those selling them should be ashamed.

For example, here is the JavaScript from their page that is supposedly
"encrypted."

<SCRIPT
LANGUAGE="JavaScript">eval(unescape("%66%75%6e%63%74%69%6f%6e%20%52%72%52%72%52%72%52%72%28%74%65%61%61%62%62%29%20%7b%76%61%72%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%3d%22%22%3b%6c%3d%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%6c%65%6e%67%74%68%3b%77%77%77%3d%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%3d%4d%61%74%68%2e%72%6f%75%6e%64%28%6c%2f%32%29%3b%69%66%28%6c%3c%32%2a%77%77%77%29%09%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%3d%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%2d%31%3b%66%6f%72%28%69%3d%30%3b%69%3c%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%3b%69%2b%2b%29%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%3d%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%2b%20%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%63%68%61%72%41%74%28%69%29%2b%20%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%63%68%61%72%41%74%28%69%2b%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%29%3b%69%66%28%6c%3c%32%2a%77%77%77%29%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%3d%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%2b%20%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%63%68%61%72%41%74%28%6c%2d%31%29%3b%64%6f%63%75%6d%65%6e%74%2e%77%72%69%74%65%28%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%29%3b%7d%3b"));</script>

Now take that and paste it into my page here:
http://www.jimcoaddins.com/decrypt.htm

Click the button that says "Decrypt HTML Code" and voila! You now have
their "encrypted" source code.

What a crock.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO
http://www.jimcoaddins.com

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M

Mike Mueller

digimarc does nothing for people who just steal the images.
It can only find those who have stolen them AND reposted
them on the web.



message : While all the comments given to you are correct. If you
have valuable
: pictures that must be shown on the web, you can always use
this:
: http://digimark.com/
: and let their tracking system inform you of thieves, who
you can
: aggressively follow up on.
:
: --
: Chris Leeds,
: Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
:
: ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
: a fantastic convenience for site owners.
: http://contentseed.com/
: --
: "Mauigentleman13"
: message
: > Is there any way to keep website visitors from taking
the photos. I
: visited
: > one site and when attempting to right click a photo text
came up that
: stated
: > "Please ask before taking." and I was unable to save the
photo to my hard
: > drive. Is it possible to do something like this in
Front Page 2003?
:
:
 
C

Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage

true, but if they've not done anything with them have they really "stolen"
them?

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
a fantastic convenience for site owners.
http://contentseed.com/
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

<SCRIPT
LANGUAGE="JavaScript">eval(unescape("function RrRrRrRr(teaabb) {var
tttmmm="";l=teaabb.length;www=hhhhffff=Math.round(l/2);if(l<2*www)
hhhhffff=hhhhffff-1;for(i=0;i<hhhhffff;i++)tttmmm = tttmmm +
teaabb.charAt(i)+ teaabb.charAt(i+hhhhffff);if(l<2*www) tttmmm = tttmmm +
teaabb.charAt(l-1);document.write(tttmmm);};"));</script>
| Kevin Spencer wrote:
| >> Try this link you might find it helpful.
| >> http://www.mtopsoft.com/
| >
| > AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!
| >
| > The referenced software is a piece of crap. For example, it
| > advertises that it prevents right-clicking. Is that supposed to
| > prevent anyone from getting an image? Here's a link to the image in
| > the first "protected" page:
|
| They use the same method as other products that claim to do the same
thing.
| They are rip-offs and those selling them should be ashamed.
|
| For example, here is the JavaScript from their page that is supposedly
| "encrypted."
|
| <SCRIPT
|
LANGUAGE="JavaScript">eval(unescape("%66%75%6e%63%74%69%6f%6e%20%52%72%52%72%52%72%52%72%28%74%65%61%61%62%62%29%20%7b%76%61%72%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%3d%22%22%3b%6c%3d%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%6c%65%6e%67%74%68%3b%77%77%77%3d%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%3d%4d%61%74%68%2e%72%6f%75%6e%64%28%6c%2f%32%29%3b%69%66%28%6c%3c%32%2a%77%77%77%29%09%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%3d%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%2d%31%3b%66%6f%72%28%69%3d%30%3b%69%3c%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%3b%69%2b%2b%29%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%3d%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%2b%20%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%63%68%61%72%41%74%28%69%29%2b%20%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%63%68%61%72%41%74%28%69%2b%68%68%68%68%66%66%66%66%29%3b%69%66%28%6c%3c%32%2a%77%77%77%29%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%3d%20%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%20%2b%20%74%65%61%61%62%62%2e%63%68%61%72%41%74%28%6c%2d%31%29%3b%64%6f%63%75%6d%65%6e%74%2e%77%72%69%74%65%28%74%74%74%6d%6d%6d%29%3b%7d%3b"));</script>
|
| Now take that and paste it into my page here:
| http://www.jimcoaddins.com/decrypt.htm
|
| Click the button that says "Decrypt HTML Code" and voila! You now have
| their "encrypted" source code.
|
| What a crock.
|
| --
| Jim Cheshire
| JIMCO
| http://www.jimcoaddins.com
|
| Check out Spam Spoiler, our new add-in!
| Add e-mail links to your Web site again
| without fear of spammers!
|
|
|
 
K

Kevin Spencer

The real point is, you can't prevent people from copying images. Copyright
laws don't prevent people from copying. They provide a legal remedy for the
author if the author can catch them. Of course, catching them has always
been a problem. Copyright laws have been around a lot longer than computers,
and methods for duplicating copyrighted material (such as VCRs, copiers,
etc) have existed for a long time too. I don't understand why people think
that computers should be the exception for this stuff.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
What You Seek Is What You Get.
 
C

Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage

The thing that's always baffled me is that if software companies with
resources beyond compare, both financial and intellectual, can't keep people
from ripping them off; why would a "regular" user think they could?
 
M

Mike Mueller

Reposting it on the web is not the only way something can be
stolen
Example- printing & selling




Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage wrote:
: true, but if they've not done anything with them have
: they really "stolen" them?
:
: --
: Chris Leeds,
: Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
:
: ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
: a fantastic convenience for site owners.
: http://contentseed.com/
:: digimarc does nothing for people who just steal the
:: images. It can only find those who have stolen them AND
:: reposted them on the web.
::
::
::
:: message ::: While all the comments given to you are correct. If you
:: have valuable
::: pictures that must be shown on the web, you can always
::: use
:: this:
::: http://digimark.com/
::: and let their tracking system inform you of thieves, who
:: you can
::: aggressively follow up on.
:::
::: --
::: Chris Leeds,
::: Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
:::
::: ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
::: a fantastic convenience for site owners.
::: http://contentseed.com/
::: --
::: "Mauigentleman13"
::: message
::
:::: Is there any way to keep website visitors from taking
:::: the photos. I visited one site and when attempting to
:::: right click a photo text came up that stated "Please
:::: ask before taking." and I was unable to save the
:: photo to my hard
:::: drive. Is it possible to do something like this in
:: Front Page 2003?
 
C

Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage

I suppose, but I've never seen a picture on the web that would print out
properly unless it's the intent (or mistake)of the designer.


--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
a fantastic convenience for site owners.
http://contentseed.com/
 
M

Mike Mueller

I can't believe someone would ever make a msteak....

Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage wrote:
: I suppose, but I've never seen a picture on the web that
: would print out properly unless it's the intent (or
: mistake)of the designer.
:
:
: --
: Chris Leeds,
: Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
:
: ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
: a fantastic convenience for site owners.
: http://contentseed.com/
:: Reposting it on the web is not the only way something
:: can be stolen
:: Example- printing & selling
::
::
::
::
:: Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage wrote:
::: true, but if they've not done anything with them have
::: they really "stolen" them?
:::
::: --
::: Chris Leeds,
::: Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
:::
::: ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
::: a fantastic convenience for site owners.
::: http://contentseed.com/
:::: digimarc does nothing for people who just steal the
:::: images. It can only find those who have stolen them AND
:::: reposted them on the web.
::::
::::
::::
:::: message ::::: While all the comments given to you are correct. If
::::: you
:::: have valuable
::::: pictures that must be shown on the web, you can always
::::: use
:::: this:
::::: http://digimark.com/
::::: and let their tracking system inform you of thieves,
::::: who
:::: you can
::::: aggressively follow up on.
:::::
::::: --
::::: Chris Leeds,
::::: Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
:::::
::::: ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
::::: a fantastic convenience for site owners.
::::: http://contentseed.com/
::::: --
::::: "Mauigentleman13"
::::: message
::::
::
:::::: Is there any way to keep website visitors from taking
:::::: the photos. I visited one site and when attempting
:::::: to right click a photo text came up that stated
:::::: "Please ask before taking." and I was unable to save
:::::: the
:::: photo to my hard
:::::: drive. Is it possible to do something like this in
:::: Front Page 2003?
 
J

John Cello

Sadly, by copying and pasting as a new picture in a different format, you can
remove the digimark protection also.
 
J

Jim Cheshire \(JIMCO\)

John said:
Sadly, by copying and pasting as a new picture in a different format,
you can remove the digimark protection also.

Not true. Digital copyrights are embedded in the pixels that make up the
image. Even cropping the image dramatically will not remove it.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO
http://www.jimcoaddins.com

Check out Spam Spoiler, our new add-in!
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K

Kevin Spencer

Not true. Digital copyrights are embedded in the pixels that make up the
image. Even cropping the image dramatically will not remove it.

That's true, Jim, with one caveat: If the color resolution on the target
machine is not high enough, the differences in the pixels might not show up.
However, these days that is rare.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
What You Seek Is What You Get.
 

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