Problems with the "Search" webbot

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Neil

Relatively new to Frontpage I created a site using the corporate site wizard.
However I am unable to get the Search function to work. What am I missing.
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

The Search function require publishing of the FP web/site in FP http mode to a server w/ the FP Server Extensions enabled (and if a
Windows Server the Index Catalog created by your host)




| Relatively new to Frontpage I created a site using the corporate site wizard.
| However I am unable to get the Search function to work. What am I missing.
 
N

Neil

Thanks for the quick response. I am hosting on my own server and have
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise edition running. I published the site using
the FP http mode and the other webbots appear to be working but not the
Search one. It may be the Index Catalog as I have not come across this in
my travels yet. Do you know how I enable that function?
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Under IIS and manage your Computer
Configuration of Indexing service on an FPSE based web site
1. Install Indexing service through Add/Remove Windows Components.
2. Create a catalog and point this catalog to the FPSE enabled web site.
3. Follow this KB article to Configure indexing service on the FPSE site.
4. HOW TO: Create and Configure a Catalog for indexing.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308202
5. Test the catalog using 'Query the catalog' option.

Troubleshooting guidelines.
1. Check if Index this site is enabled in the web site properties
2. Ensure that Indexing service is installed. On a Windows 2003
server, also ensure that Indexing service is allowed in the Web server
extensions in the IIS manager.
3. Ensure that a catalog is created and it is mapped to the appropriate web
site.
4. Open the site in FrontPage and insert a page with a search form in it.
Right click on the Search form and go to properties, and it should contain
some additional properties which are related to index server.
5. In the code view, search for b-useindexserver. If the value is 0, then
it is not using the Indexing service and if it is 1, then it is using the
indexing service.
6. Ensure that 'noindexserver' is set to 0 in the registry. If it is 1, it
means that FPSE will not use indexing service, even it is present.
7. Ensure that .IDQ and .IDA file extensions are mapped to IDQ.DLL in the
Application configuration of the Web server properties as well as the
properties of the web site.





| Thanks for the quick response. I am hosting on my own server and have
| Windows Server 2003 Enterprise edition running. I published the site using
| the FP http mode and the other webbots appear to be working but not the
| Search one. It may be the Index Catalog as I have not come across this in
| my travels yet. Do you know how I enable that function?
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > The Search function require publishing of the FP web/site in FP http mode to a server w/ the FP Server Extensions enabled (and
if a
| > Windows Server the Index Catalog created by your host)
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | Relatively new to Frontpage I created a site using the corporate site wizard.
| > | However I am unable to get the Search function to work. What am I missing.
| >
| >
| >
 
N

Neil

Thanks Stefan, that was VERY helpful. I believe it is now working.
Appreciate you help. One other question if I may, Frontpage 2003 does not
appear, to this simple man, to differentiate between Frontpage extensions and
Sharepoint services. Are they the same thing??

Thanks again.



Stefan B Rusynko said:
Under IIS and manage your Computer
Configuration of Indexing service on an FPSE based web site
1. Install Indexing service through Add/Remove Windows Components.
2. Create a catalog and point this catalog to the FPSE enabled web site.
3. Follow this KB article to Configure indexing service on the FPSE site.
4. HOW TO: Create and Configure a Catalog for indexing.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308202
5. Test the catalog using 'Query the catalog' option.

Troubleshooting guidelines.
1. Check if Index this site is enabled in the web site properties
2. Ensure that Indexing service is installed. On a Windows 2003
server, also ensure that Indexing service is allowed in the Web server
extensions in the IIS manager.
3. Ensure that a catalog is created and it is mapped to the appropriate web
site.
4. Open the site in FrontPage and insert a page with a search form in it.
Right click on the Search form and go to properties, and it should contain
some additional properties which are related to index server.
5. In the code view, search for b-useindexserver. If the value is 0, then
it is not using the Indexing service and if it is 1, then it is using the
indexing service.
6. Ensure that 'noindexserver' is set to 0 in the registry. If it is 1, it
means that FPSE will not use indexing service, even it is present.
7. Ensure that .IDQ and .IDA file extensions are mapped to IDQ.DLL in the
Application configuration of the Web server properties as well as the
properties of the web site.





| Thanks for the quick response. I am hosting on my own server and have
| Windows Server 2003 Enterprise edition running. I published the site using
| the FP http mode and the other webbots appear to be working but not the
| Search one. It may be the Index Catalog as I have not come across this in
| my travels yet. Do you know how I enable that function?
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > The Search function require publishing of the FP web/site in FP http mode to a server w/ the FP Server Extensions enabled (and
if a
| > Windows Server the Index Catalog created by your host)
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | Relatively new to Frontpage I created a site using the corporate site wizard.
| > | However I am unable to get the Search function to work. What am I missing.
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

No, they are not the same. However, if you are talking about the
information you see in the publishing window, they are considered to be one
in the same as far as selecting that feature.
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Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| Thanks Stefan, that was VERY helpful. I believe it is now working.
| Appreciate you help. One other question if I may, Frontpage 2003 does
not
| appear, to this simple man, to differentiate between Frontpage extensions
and
| Sharepoint services. Are they the same thing??
|
| Thanks again.
|
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Under IIS and manage your Computer
| > Configuration of Indexing service on an FPSE based web site
| > 1. Install Indexing service through Add/Remove Windows Components.
| > 2. Create a catalog and point this catalog to the FPSE enabled web site.
| > 3. Follow this KB article to Configure indexing service on the FPSE
site.
| > 4. HOW TO: Create and Configure a Catalog for indexing.
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308202
| > 5. Test the catalog using 'Query the catalog' option.
| >
| > Troubleshooting guidelines.
| > 1. Check if Index this site is enabled in the web site properties
| > 2. Ensure that Indexing service is installed. On a Windows 2003
| > server, also ensure that Indexing service is allowed in the Web server
| > extensions in the IIS manager.
| > 3. Ensure that a catalog is created and it is mapped to the appropriate
web
| > site.
| > 4. Open the site in FrontPage and insert a page with a search form in
it.
| > Right click on the Search form and go to properties, and it should
contain
| > some additional properties which are related to index server.
| > 5. In the code view, search for b-useindexserver. If the value is 0,
then
| > it is not using the Indexing service and if it is 1, then it is using
the
| > indexing service.
| > 6. Ensure that 'noindexserver' is set to 0 in the registry. If it is 1,
it
| > means that FPSE will not use indexing service, even it is present.
| > 7. Ensure that .IDQ and .IDA file extensions are mapped to IDQ.DLL in
the
| > Application configuration of the Web server properties as well as the
| > properties of the web site.
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | Thanks for the quick response. I am hosting on my own server and have
| > | Windows Server 2003 Enterprise edition running. I published the site
using
| > | the FP http mode and the other webbots appear to be working but not
the
| > | Search one. It may be the Index Catalog as I have not come across
this in
| > | my travels yet. Do you know how I enable that function?
| > |
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
|
| > | > The Search function require publishing of the FP web/site in FP http
mode to a server w/ the FP Server Extensions enabled (and
| > if a
| > | > Windows Server the Index Catalog created by your host)
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | Relatively new to Frontpage I created a site using the corporate
site wizard.
| > | > | However I am unable to get the Search function to work. What am
I missing.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
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Neil

One other comment/question. My mix up between FrontPage and SharePoint came
from couple of sources. Firstly I was not familiar with either but have
become more so since help from this thread. Secondly, I was confused by how
they are referrenced on our servers. We are running two servers. One with
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition which in IIS lists the same folders and files
under Websites/FrontPage Administration as the other server running
Enterprice Edition lists in IIS under Websites/Microsoft SharePoint
Administration?? It appeared that these servers were having the same
functions managed through different IIS sites?? In addition when extending a
site for FrontPage the Properties/Server Extensions 2002 tab indicates that
"Microsoft SharePoint is installed on this Web Site. Does this mean that
FrontPage runs within SharePoint.

Thanks in anticipation....
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

No. SharePoint must be downloaded from MS and installed, if this has not been done, then you do not
have SharePoint Services installed.

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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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Neil

I know that we did not install SharePoint on our servers so I am still
confused as to why it keeps coming up and the differences between our to
servers. Thanks for your reponse.
 
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