Publish and Word

[Brett...]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message


But if they need a paper-printing output that is not
layout-orientated, they can use Word to create it.

Err yes but we are assuming that the originator has good reason to use
Publisher.
The issue is with the secondary users who need copy by email - see below

If they need a paper-printed output that is layout-oriented, then they
should use Publisher and not convert to Word, as their layout
orientation will be lost. Whereas if they use the PDF option, their
layout will be preserved.

Yes but only IF the second person needs to preserve layout.
Otherwise RTF or even text makes far more sense.


--
Brett

I don't like the sound of my phone ringing so I put my phone inside my
fish tank. I can't hear it, but every time I get a call I see the fish
go like this <<<>>><<>><<<<. I go down to the pet store, "Gimme
another ten guppies, I got a lotta calls yesterday."

 

[Randall Arnold]

I'm all out of piss, or I'd keep adding my own caveats to the conversation.

; )

Randall Arnold

 

[Brett...]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message

That's a dangerous thing to assume.

Well it is far more logical to assume that he is than he isn't.
Tip - the clue is in the name of this newsgroup.

If the publication is layout-oriented, then the sender should always
do anything in his/her power to preserve the layout for any secondary
users.

Sorry but that is utter codswallop. I suggest you compare on-line and
traditional versions of a few newspapers for a start.



--
Brett

I don't like the sound of my phone ringing so I put my phone inside my
fish tank. I can't hear it, but every time I get a call I see the fish
go like this <<<>>><<>><<<<. I go down to the pet store, "Gimme
another ten guppies, I got a lotta calls yesterday."

 

[Ed Bennett]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message

Well it is far more logical to assume that he is than he isn't.
Tip - the clue is in the name of this newsgroup.

You said that they had *good reason* to use Publisher, not that they just
were.

Sorry but that is utter codswallop. I suggest you compare on-line and
traditional versions of a few newspapers for a start.

That's different. The web users are a different class of primary user.

 

[Brett...]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message


You said that they had *good reason* to use Publisher, not that they
just were.

Questioning the motivation of a user in using a particular application
without any evidence to suggest that the particular application is
inappropriate is perverse and patronising.

That's different. The web users are a different class of primary
user.

It makes no difference - two outputs from the same source each with their
own distinct requirements.



--
Brett

I don't like the sound of my phone ringing so I put my phone inside my
fish tank. I can't hear it, but every time I get a call I see the fish
go like this <<<>>><<>><<<<. I go down to the pet store, "Gimme
another ten guppies, I got a lotta calls yesterday."

 

[Randall Arnold]

I'd suggest you get another shtick, but you seem to have a perverted
obsession with cockroaches and trailer parks, so by all means continue
entertaining yourself with your meager skills.

I know *I'm* laughing!

Randall Arnold

 

[Brett...]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message


Isn't that what we're doing in this entire discussion? PDF over
Word/RTF?

Certainly not. I am questioning your blanket assertion that PDF was the "way
to go".
PDF MAY me appropriate but as others have said, it may well be totally
innapropriate.

Anyway, some people use the first application they find to
create something without giving a thought to what the best choice of
application would be. It is up to more experienced users to show them
which application is best for the job, and why.

All very true, but that doesn't mean we can second guess the needs of a
particular user or assume we know what is best for them.

But the Word/RTF output from Publisher is unsuited to this. It does
not maintain any images at all.
And copying/pasting into Word destroys either layout or editability
(or both).
By layout I don't mean how the document is presented, but the basic
form of the document. A document in such a form would be near
unreadable - a publication needs sensitive adaptation to even be
close to useful in the form that an online version of a newspaper is.
That cannot be done automatically.
And even then, HTML would be better over Word, as it is a more
universally-accepted file format.

We've gone over and over this before but you still fail to appreciate that
different users have different needs.
Some Publisher documents need exporting to Word or RTF
Some Publisher documents need exporting to HTML
Some Publisher documents need exporting to PDF

There may be perfectly good reasons for a user to want to do any one or more
of the above.

PDF is the best for preserving layout in the original form with the
minimum or work, however.

I have no problem with that, though other users may wish to comment upon on
EPS?

And I still stick by my claim that PDF is
better generally (If you choose PDF, you're making the right choice
more often than if you chose Word).

And I'll counter the above and say, the best format to export a Publisher
document depends on what you want to do with it and what tools/applications
you have available.



--
Brett

I saw a sign at a gas station. It said "help wanted". There was
another sign below it that said "self service". So I hired myself.
Then I made myself the boss. I gave myself a raise. I paid myself.
Then I quit.

 

[Randall Arnold]

Ed, with all due respect, you're stuffing the ballot box. It's awful easy
to post up your own files that will make your case for you.

Randall Arnold

 

[Ed Bennett]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message

Ed, with all due respect, you're stuffing the ballot box. It's awful
easy to post up your own files that will make your case for you.

I've probably taken this argument a little too far...
Sorry Randall.

 

[Randall Arnold]

LOL... no problem. Everyone involved has valid points.

; )

Randall Arnold