Publisher and PDF

[ChrisB]

It's currently an issue with the colours - RGB vs CMYK. He did the proofs
for us but the colours were not perfect so we need to sort out where the
problem lies which I am sure has something to do with the way it was
converted to pdf

 

[Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]]

OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the
professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif
Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our
magazine.

While Mike is correct about Serif PagePlus and it's PDF abilities (he's a
veteran of PagePlus), the only problem is flexibility and a new learning
curve. Their PDF is proprietary, meaning it's built (hard coded into the
File menu, not as a printer driver). You will not be able to use it's PDF
making ability with any other program, such as Microsoft Office, Microsoft
Publisher, Internet Explorer, etc. You can use Adobe Acrobat 7 with ANY
application (including Serif PagePlus.) So now you are limited to only one
program to create a PDF. Secondly, you will have to learn a new program and
you will find that there are substantially less printers out there that are
even aware of the Serif product.

In my opinion, if you did NOT have Publisher already, and you didn't need
PDF making abilities for any other program and you had to choose between the
two apps for the first time, I would have chosen Serif Page Plus 10.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Did you set Pub for CMYK when you created the document?

 

[ChrisB]

Yes I did

Did you set Pub for CMYK when you created the document?

 

[ChrisB]

Thanks for the additional information - I really appreciate everyone's help.
Having got this far down the line, we would obviously like to get the
Publisher to do what we want and i will have a go at sorting out the colour
issues.

Many thanks

 

[Mike Koewler]

Chris,

AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But
they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish
as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to the
latest industry standards.

As Brian says, I'm a PP user (though I also have Pub and Quark on the
computer and have done files in both), so I'm likely biased. But, I know
a couple of people who use it to produce a weekly newspaper (I'm one of
them), others do a weekly or monthly magazine, others have done books (I
also did a book).

One nice thing - Serif offers a 30-day, no questions asked, money back
guarantee. You could always try it.

Mike

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Isn't freeserif from the same momma?
It's pretty dang good for a freebie...and you get regular emails from
Natasha



| Chris,
|
| AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But
| they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish
| as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to the
| latest industry standards.
|
| As Brian says, I'm a PP user (though I also have Pub and Quark on the
| computer and have done files in both), so I'm likely biased. But, I know
| a couple of people who use it to produce a weekly newspaper (I'm one of
| them), others do a weekly or monthly magazine, others have done books (I
| also did a book).
|
| One nice thing - Serif offers a 30-day, no questions asked, money back
| guarantee. You could always try it.
|
| Mike
|
| ChrisB wrote:
|
| > OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the
| > professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page
Plus
| > welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine.
| >
| > Thanks
| > | >
| >>Chris,
| >>
| >>Before you buy Acrobat, you might want to take a look at Serif Page
Plus.
| >>It's similar to Pub, as far as the tools go, but it can create industry
| >>standard PDF/X1-a pdf files. It might save you several dollars and make
| >>your life easier.
| >>
| >>Mike
| >>
| >>ChrisB wrote:
| >>
| >>>Oh I see... well actually HE was the one having the problem! I sent
him
| >>>the Publisher file but he was unable to save it to a PDF himself.
| >>>However, having done some research on the Microsoft site, it appears
that
| >>>we might need to use a different method - i.e. saving it as a ps file
| >>>first being one option and another option was mentioned too.
| >>>
| >>>He was doing it for me because I only had a 'free' version of pdf
| >>>software which didn't give me the bleed options that I needed.
| >>>
| >>>I am about to purchase a full version of Adobe 7 so I will try this
| >>>myself once I have it.
| >>>
| >>>Thanks for all your help... and patience.
| >>>| >>>
| >>>
| >>>>Chris,
| >>>>
| >>>>Sorry, I did not make myself clear. Your problem may be unrelated to
| >>>>Publisher. If you are using Acrobat to create the pdf file, it gives
you
| >>>>different options. One of those is what version of PDF to save - you
| >>>>might be creating the pdf file using PDF 1.4 while the best his
equipment
| >>>>can handle is 1.3. If you are using Acrobat, ask your printer if he
has a
| >>>>JobOptions file he can share with you. This will have the settings he
| >>>>prefers.
| >>>>
| >>>>Mike
| >>>>
| >>>>ChrisB wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>>He doesn't know Publisher. He is trying to help us but wouldn't be
| >>>>>using Publisher by choice - so I am attempting to get as much
| >>>>>information for him as I can.
| >>>>>| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>>Chris,
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>You should ask HIM, not us. Some older RIPs might have trouble with
the
| >>>>>>latest versions of Acrobat. Saving as PDF 1.3 or 1.2 might help.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>Mike
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>ChrisB wrote:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>>We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the
| >>>>>>>Publisher files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF
| >>>>>>>software is not compatible with Publisher - it keeps crashing.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with
Publisher?
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>Many thanks
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >
| >

 

[Ed Bennett]

AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But
they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish
as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to
the latest industry standards.

A little OT - is PDF/X1-a backwards compatible? I mean, if it's the latest
industry standard, then is it likely to be supported by anyone apart from
the most up-to-date printers?

 

[Mike Koewler]

Ed,

X1-a is a set of standards regarding the pdf. It has to be CMYK, all
fonts have to be embedded and images have to be at least 175 dpi (though
it will produce a pdf if a lower res image is used). It may also include
no use of OPI, though I'm not certain about this. Basically, it's a set
of job options and creates an Acrobat 4.0 (pdf 1.3) which any printer
should be able to handle. Some printers, such as national magazines may
add to the requirements, such as not allowing jpg images.

Mike

 

[Ed Bennett]

Basically, it's a set of job options and creates an Acrobat 4.0 (pdf
1.3) which any printer should be able to handle.

Thanks, Mike!

 

[ChrisB]

I have downloaded the free pdf software that various people have
recommended - PrimoPDF - but this too does not give me options for bleed - I
need to set the bleed distances.

Any ideas?

Chris

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

You may need the Big Boy for that - Acrobat. PrimoPDF is great for
down-and-dirty .pdf file but short on options, as you've seen.

 

[ChrisB]

yep - ok thanks.

One other thing - what is the best way to deal with a file that is really
huge. We have tried splitting it but this has not been successful at all
and defeats the object of using Publisher (being able to see it in booklet
format).

We suspect it might be corrupted because it's so huge - even the pages that
have no pictures are huge files on their own.

Will the Pack & Go allow us to split it over several disks? Haven't tried
this yet but just want to check I understand it's use - i.e. for sending to
the Printer?

You may need the Big Boy for that - Acrobat. PrimoPDF is great for
down-and-dirty .pdf file but short on options, as you've seen.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

I have downloaded the free pdf software that various people have
recommended - PrimoPDF - but this too does not give me options for bleed -
I need to set the bleed distances.

Any ideas?

Chris

 

[Mary Sauer]

You have never mentioned what version Publisher you are using. If it is 2000;
Publisher did not support compression in the 2000 version, files will be quite large
if many images are used. Did you use a wizard originally when you created your
booklet?
If the Wizard is not displayed, click Show Wizard in the lower-left corner of the
Microsoft Publisher window.
Click Extra Content.
Click Delete All to delete all content not used in the current publication.
Alternatively, click Delete to remove individual objects.

Use the Pack and Go Wizard to pack or unpack publications for commercial printing
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP052671351033.aspx


--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/

yep - ok thanks.

One other thing - what is the best way to deal with a file that is really huge. We
have tried splitting it but this has not been successful at all and defeats the
object of using Publisher (being able to see it in booklet format).

We suspect it might be corrupted because it's so huge - even the pages that have no
pictures are huge files on their own.

Will the Pack & Go allow us to split it over several disks? Haven't tried this yet
but just want to check I understand it's use - i.e. for sending to the Printer?

You may need the Big Boy for that - Acrobat. PrimoPDF is great for down-and-dirty
.pdf file but short on options, as you've seen.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

I have downloaded the free pdf software that various people have recommended -
PrimoPDF - but this too does not give me options for bleed - I need to set the
bleed distances.

Any ideas?

Chris
We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the Publisher
files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF software is not compatible
with Publisher - it keeps crashing.

What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher?

Many thanks

 

[Mary Sauer]

These article maybe helpful too
Commercial printing
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/CH062524641033.aspx

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/

yep - ok thanks.

One other thing - what is the best way to deal with a file that is really huge. We
have tried splitting it but this has not been successful at all and defeats the
object of using Publisher (being able to see it in booklet format).

We suspect it might be corrupted because it's so huge - even the pages that have no
pictures are huge files on their own.

Will the Pack & Go allow us to split it over several disks? Haven't tried this yet
but just want to check I understand it's use - i.e. for sending to the Printer?

You may need the Big Boy for that - Acrobat. PrimoPDF is great for down-and-dirty
.pdf file but short on options, as you've seen.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

I have downloaded the free pdf software that various people have recommended -
PrimoPDF - but this too does not give me options for bleed - I need to set the
bleed distances.

Any ideas?

Chris
We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the Publisher
files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF software is not compatible
with Publisher - it keeps crashing.

What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher?

Many thanks