Required fonts for Publisher 2003

[seetomtype]

What is the required font set to run Publisher 2003? I need to manage my
font library and when I move my fonts around Publisher starts hanging and
asking for the install disk. I know it's font related because it's the only
thing I have changed in the last 6 months on my PC. I ran the Pub self
repair utility and it repopulated my System Font Folder with many of the
fonts I moved to a new location. A list of what it needs in the System Font
Folder would be greatly appreciated. i run a Dell P4, Windows 2000, and have
1.25 Gigs of RAM. I run Office 2000, and Pub 2003.

Thanks in advance!

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

Why are you moving your fonts around? I'd suggest putting them back in the
appropriate Windows folder.

 

[Mary Sauer]

Fonts that are installed with Office
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;837463&Product=offxp

 

[Mary Sauer]

If you want to remove fonts from the system folder, why not try a font manager, you
can install fonts on the fly without having to install them.
Do a search, there are some modestly priced applications available.

 

[seetomtype]

Thank you both for the reply.

I am moving my fonts around because I need to be able to manage my client's
submitted fonts. To do this I need to have only the base System Fonts
installed for Windows and the applications that I run. This way if somebody
submits a version of Arial (for example), that is a different version, but
named the same as my System Font, I can use my client's font, not the System
Font. It helps prevent reflow of text, and is the only way to be sure that
you are seeing and outputting what the client has seen on their end. We of
course proof everything with the client before going to press, but using
their specific fonts greatly reduces the chance of reproofing the job, or
re-running it. So what I need to know is what fonts are required for
Publisher 2003 to run properly on my Win 2k machine. I can't imagine that it
really needs the 200 fonts in order to operate. I do like the fact that so
many come with the program, but I need to have the option of turning them on
and off for specific jobs. I know what the fonts are that Office (and
Publisher), and Windows installs. All applications and operating systems
have a Base Set that are required. I want to know what Publisher's is.

 

[seetomtype]

Mary,

This is exactly what I want to do. The problem that I'm having has to do
with the fact that fonts in the System Font Folder are activated. Period.
This is the case with the PC font managers that I have tried, so I need to be
able to remove all the unnecessary ones, move them to another location on my
hard drive, and active them as needed. If I remove all but the Windows base
fonts + Times New Roman (for Word) all of my applications run fine except for
Pub 2003. It needs some of them in order to run correctly. I want to know
what those are.

 

[Mary Sauer]

Use the link
Fonts that are installed with Office
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;837463&Product=offxp

That link has all the fonts that shipped with Publisher 2003. The reason Publisher
has these fonts is because it is graphical type application. The wizards use
decorative fonts for templates and design sets. If it were me, I'd leave them in your
system folder. A lot less headaches.

 

[seetomtype]

Ok,

Never mind. I'll look for help somewhere else, or I'll try to reinstall the
application with minimal font support, if that's possible. It's got to be a
small and simple list, I just need to correspond with somebody that knows it.
If you come across it could you please post it in this thread? I'll pop
back in in the future to take a look-see.

 

[Mary Sauer]

If you only install one or two fonts you will lose the function of the application.
Publisher is not a word processor.You would be better off uninstalling it altogether.
What you are trying to accomplish makes no sense.

 

[Chris Griffiths]

If you only install one or two fonts you will lose the function of the
application. Publisher is not a word processor.You would be better off
uninstalling it altogether. What you are trying to accomplish makes no
sense.

What the OP is trying to achieve makes plenty of sense to me, as I'm sure it
would to most others involved in pre-press. Unfortunately I don't have the
answer, and can only suggest font elimination by trial and error.

 

[Jono]

If you have a copy of CorelDraw use Font Navigator to manage your fonts.

 

[Mac Townsend]

Why are you moving your fonts around? I'd suggest putting them back in
the appropriate Windows folder.

Because whan you are trying to deal with 5-7,000 fonts of your own and
with customer-supplied fonts that come in with every job, one simply
MUST get them all out of the Windows fonts folder and off into their own
space from where they can be activated/deactivated as required using a
thrud party font "manager" such as Font Navigator (which IMHO is the
best of a rather sorry lot).

A common housecleaning task (or one that should be common) is to empty
the windows fonts folder of all but the absolute essentials (fllwoed by
cleaning the registry).

The initial request for a list of the specific fonts that Publisher
itself needs to have available for it;s own purposes is a reasonable one
and one that has not been answered by anyone. Peerhaps this is because
it is one that nobody knows how to answer.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

Hmm. Thanks for the background, Mac.

 

[seetomtype]

Mac,

Thanks for the support I'm pleased that I've received responses on this
from the MVP crew, and from others in the industry, but I'm very suprised
that the MS folks can't produce a list. This is the Commercial Print
section, and I have a hard time believing that nobod has ever asked for a
list of required fonts before. I don't have a need for the 200 fonts
installed with the application because I'm in a prepress situation, not
design. I don't actually need most of the fonts that come with any of the
applications that I use, as my clients provide them for their jobs.

As a work around I uninstalled, then did a custom install, leaving out the
fonts among other things. I haven't had any problems yet so I'll see how
that goes... Mabey if the program instals knowing that there weren't fonts
installed also, it won't be looking for them. Who knows?

I agree that there is a poor selection of PC font managers out there, and
I've tried Bitstream's Font Navigator. Right now I'm demo'ing Extensis' Font
Reserve 2.6 and it seems to be a bit more intuitive, once the System Fonts
are cleaned up.

I'd like to emplore the MVP staff to take a closer look at pre-press
support. Many of us out here use your program because our customers do. It
helps keep business comming in when we support popular programs like Pub 2000
& 2003. This is a pretty basic question for a prepress department, and it's
answer is necessary for us to be sucessful in the industry. I appreciate you
getting back to me quickly and your suggestions, but the answers show a lack
of real world commercial print experience. I'd suggest looking more closely
at this portion of your users, and what we do to round out your support
capabilities.

Thanks again

 

[Jeff Daghir]

Well, I don't know what fonts are actually required for Publisher 2003, but
here's how I handle it. The only fonts that are allowed to permanently
reside in my font folder are those fonts that are installed by default with
Win XP. Everything else is activated on an as-needed basis with Font
Reserve. I enforce this by periodically removing everything in my Windows
Font Folder and then re-installing only the fonts the came with Win XP. For
Publisher I did a search on the install CD for all the fonts on it and
copied those to a special folder on my server. Then I activate those fonts
temporarily using Font Reserve before I use Publisher. I did the same thing
for Office.

Publisher and Office both seem to work fine doing this, although I do
sometimes have to permanently activate a font with Font Reserver in order to
create a PDF - I'm not sure why. I do try and remember to deactivate the
font once I'm finished with creating the PDF.

--

Jeff Daghir
MPS Printing, Inc.
The Ink & Paper People!
Madison, IN
www.mpsprinting.com
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Odysseus]

[...] whan you are trying to deal with 5-7,000 fonts of your own and
with customer-supplied fonts that come in with every job, one simply
MUST get them all out of the Windows fonts folder and off into their own
space from where they can be activated/deactivated as required using a
thrud party font "manager" such as Font Navigator (which IMHO is the
best of a rather sorry lot).

I haven't been paying terribly close attention, and we don't get a great
many Publisher files here, but it seems to me that Publisher reactivates
all the MS fonts I've deactivated with FN, every time it runs.

 

[seetomtype]

Just as a follow up...

I reinstalled Pub 2003 using the Custom Install option, and left the fonts
out (among other items). I recleaned out my System Fonts folder leaving only
the base font set in it. I haven't had any problems yet with Publisher
wanting to reload the 200 or so fonts it comes with yet. That's a good thing
because I had problems right away last time. I would still like a list from
the MVP's if they come across it.

 

[seetomtype]

Odysseus,

That's exactly what was happening to me, too. I've found that by
reinstalling Pub as a custom install leaving out the fonts, it doesn't do
that. With the full insatll it would either activate all the MS Office font
set, or ask for the Install disk to repopulate the System Font Folder with
the Office font set. Kind of a PITA to reinstall, but it seems to be working
fine.