Setting up outlook

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Pamela

Hello All, I'm new here.

I don't know how to set up 2003 on my new computer. Can anyone help? I've
tried to locate steps online to know avail. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Pamela
 
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Pamela

Thanks for your reply. I got it set up using a hotmail acct, but now I get
thiserror message when I try to send. wtf?

Task 'Hotmail: Folder:Inbox Synchronizing headers.' reported error
(0x800CCC33) : 'Access to the account was denied. Verify that your username
and password are correct.The server responded 'Forbidden'. '

I've fiddled with the UN & PW to no avail. Can you give any insight?

Thanks
 
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VanguardLH

Pamela said:
Thanks for your reply. I got it set up using a hotmail acct, but now I get
thiserror message when I try to send. wtf?

Task 'Hotmail: Folder:Inbox Synchronizing headers.' reported error
(0x800CCC33) : 'Access to the account was denied. Verify that your username
and password are correct.The server responded 'Forbidden'. '

You are attempting to define an HTTP/WebDAV account in Outlook for Hotmail
access. Hotmail doesn't have DAV access anymore. What you neglected to
mention is that the problem is for a NEW setup, not for an old account that
was working and then failed to work anymore or that you haven't accessed
your Hotmail account for over 4 months (which meant it expired because you
left it idle too long and, at best, you'll need to use the webmail interface
to see if it still lets you login before Microsoft terminates and deletes
the inactive account).

Cutoff for DAV access to Hotmail ended on September 1, 2009. Microsoft
switched to Deltasync as their HTTP communications protocol to their webmail
service. E-mail clients that support only DAV for HTTP access will no
longer be able to use it to access Hotmail. Your choices after the cutoff
are:

- Use POP to access your Hotmail account.
- Use a Deltasync-enabled client to see all the folders in your webmail
account for IMAP-like access.
- Use the webmail interface that has always been there even before
Microsoft bought Hotmail.

Also see http://www.howto-outlook.com/news/hotmailaccessforbidden.htm

POP has no concept of folders. It only understands a mailbox where ALL your
e-mails reside. Because POP doesn't use folders, there are no commands
within the Post Office Protocol to navigate or select folders. It only has
access to your mailbox. The mailbox that POP can access is the Inbox folder
you see when using the webmail client to your account.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_office_protocol
http://communication.howstuffworks.com/email.htm
http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/pop_basics.htm
http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/how_pop_works.htm

Hotmail has never had and still doesn't have IMAP access. IMAP lets you
access other folders in your e-mail account (or, more accurately, those
folders to which you have subscribed). Microsoft has hinted that they may
make IMAP access possible in the future but no Hotmail user is going to pend
using their account until if and whenever IMAP access shows up.

The only way to have local access to the non-Inbox folders in your Hotmail
account is to use Deltasync (DAV support died on 01-SEP-2009). This
protocol makes available all your folders that you defined using either the
Deltasync-enabled e-mail client (which then replicates that local folder on
the server) or syncs to those folders you created using the webmail client.
If you want IMAP-like access to your Hotmail account, you'll need to use
either the webmail client or a local e-mail client that supports Deltasync,
which are:

- Windows Live Mail (replaces Outlook Express and Vista's Windows Mail).
- Outlook 2003/2007 *plus* the Outlook Connector add-on. The add-on
adds Deltasync support since no version of Outlook natively supports
Deltasync. The add-on doesn't work with prior versions of Outlook.
- Use a screen-scraper proxy or e-mail client that tries to navigate the
web pages for the webmail client to Hotmail.

Outlook Express NEVER had support for Deltasync. It is a dead product:
functional development ceased back in 2002, a patch for SP-2 in Windows XP
allowed moving the default location of signature and quoted content, and
security patches ended in 2006 when the development team got disbanded. It
does have DAV support but Microsoft is discontinuing DAV access to their
mail hosts on Sept 1, 2009, and moving to Deltasync. There will be no
changes to OE to add Deltasync support to it. That means you can use OE for
POP access to your Hotmail account but not for Deltasync access (that would
give you access to the other webmail folders).

There are some screen scraper proxies or clients that will try to navigate
the web pages that makeup the webmail interface for Hotmail. That is, they
are coded to walk through the Hotmail web site. They act like a local
POP-to-HTTP proxy. You configure a POP account in your e-mail client that
connects to this protocol converter proxy that then uses HTTP to walk
through the Hotmail web site. They aren't reliable. FreePOPs, YahooPOPs
(for use with Yahoo Mail only), and Thunderbird with its Webmail proxy are
such types of screen-scraper clients. If the webmail interface changes then
these screen-scraper clients will fail. You cannot get your e-mails using
them until their author gets around to making their web-walking code match
the changes to the web site. Since they provide POP access through their
converter proxy, you only get access to your mailbox (which is the Inbox
folder shown in the webmail client). Since you use POP to connect to the
protocol converter proxy, you won't get IMAP or Deltasync access to the
other folders available in the webmail client. Since Hotmail, even for free
accounts, has POP access, there is no point in using a screen scraper to
access Hotmail.
 
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Pamela

thanks for your help. I downloaded connector & put my email add, Pw & name
in it. I am still getting the same error.

All I'm trying to do is respond to a craigslist posting & it has turned into
an all day project.

When I click the link in the posting a word window opens which is set up
like an email window. I click send & still get that error message.

I don't understand what's happening.

Thanks for your help
 
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Pamela

Hi Vanguard, Thanks for your help too. I am still not able to use outlook
as you can read in my last post even though I downloaded Connector &
configured it.
 
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Roady [MVP]

But are you also sending via it?
If you have multiple accounts configured, either set the Outlook Connector
account as the default in your Account Settings or use the Accounts button
near the Send button to select the account upon sending a new message.



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VanguardLH

Pamela said:
Hi Vanguard, Thanks for your help too. I am still not able to use outlook
as you can read in my last post even though I downloaded Connector &
configured it.

And, as yet, you never mention actually using the webmail interface to
Hotmail to see if you can login to your account.

Also, although you installed the Outlook Connector add-on, did you also
*delete* the old Hotmail account where you tried using HTTP/WebDAV? You
need to delete all your old DAV accounts in Outlook for Hotmail. Then
create the new Hotmail account in Outlook using the add-on.
 
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VanguardLH

Pamela said:
All I'm trying to do is respond to a craigslist posting & it has turned into
an all day project.

You NEVER want to post your real e-mail address in Craigslist. It is a well
known pool from which spammers will harvest e-mail addresses. You also do
not want to reply from your real e-mail account to any inquiries made
through or because of Craigslist ads. Create a new disposable e-mail
address (DEA) which could be at Hotmail and use that special-use account for
anything you do at Craigslist. When you are done with Craigslist, delete
the DEA account.
 
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Pamela

Thanks for your help

If by "actually using the webmail interface to
Hotmail to see if you can login to your account." you mean did I login to the hotmail account, I did.

I had done everything instructed except delete the old accounts which i have
done presently.

After doing that I am able to use outlook, however every time I go to send a
message> I click the link in craigslist posting to send a reply>it opens word
as the email editor>I click send > It closes the word window with no
indication whether the email was sent. I open up the Outlook interface and
the message is in my outbox so I assum it was not sent. I highlight it and
click send > it then requires me to fill in one of those idenity things with
scrambled letters & #s. Do you have to go through this whole production #
just to send and emai in outlook?

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VanguardLH said:
And, as yet, you never mention
actually using the webmail interface to
 
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Pamela

Thanks for your help.

Don't
what this means:
"But are you also sending via it? "

What is "it"?
 
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VanguardLH

Pamela said:
After doing that I am able to use outlook, however every time I go to send
a message> I click the link in craigslist posting to send a reply>it
opens word as the email editor>I click send > It closes the word window
with no indication whether the email was sent. I open up the Outlook
interface and the message is in my outbox so I assum it was not sent.

Items that have been added programmatically to the Outbox folder do not
have Outlook send them. If Outlook isn't running, it obviously cannot send
any e-mails. Items were moved into its Outbox folder while Outlook was NOT
running. That means Outlook doesn't see the event (and that is what
triggers Outlook to know a newly added item is to get sent).

The "send immediately" option is triggered when you move an item into the
Outbox folder. That doesn't happen if the item is programmatically
generated. If Outlook is not currently loaded, only a stub of Outlook gets
loaded when you compose new e-mail. When you are done composing the new
message, the item gets added to the Outbox folder but then Outlook exits.
Since there is no longer an instance of Outlook running, it isn't around to
perform the next scheduled mail poll.

If Outlook wasn't running, you'll find the programmatically added items are
still sitting in the Outbox folder. Because Outlook didn't see the event,
you'll have to open the items and send them manually. For ease of use,
make sure Outlook is running when you compose new e-mails.
I highlight it and click send > it then requires me to fill in one of
those idenity things with scrambled letters & #s. Do you have to go
through this whole production # just to send and emai in outlook?

That is the Outlook Connector relaying to you the security page that proves
you are human using the Hotmail account instead of a spambot. As I recall,
using the webmail interface to Hotmail will also result in seeing that
intervening security page where you enter the characters shown in the
CAPTCHA image. Responding with the correct characters (via the Outlook
Connector or the webmail security page) results in your continued use of
the Hotmail account because the assumption is that a spambot couldn't
answer. I've probably seen that intervening webmail security page about 3
times in a year.

If the Outlook Connector add-on isn't working to relay your response back
to the CAPTCHA prompt on your Hotmail account, it should work to use the
webmail interface and respond to the CAPTCHA security page there. That's
why I wondered if you had used the webmail interface to your account.

Personally I feel the add-on is still too flaky and haven't bothered to
install it. I just use POP access to my Hotmail account. Something could
be interfering with the add-on passing on your input or the add-on is
flawed. Perhaps uninstalling the add-on, deleting all Hotmail accounts in
Outlook, and reinstalling the add-on would get it working again. You might
also consider rebooting into Windows' safe mode to see if the lack of
startup programs gets the add-on to work (which means you load something
that interferes with the add-on).

What other add-ons have you installed in Outlook? Might one of them be for
your anti-virus program? Have you yet tried disabling the superfluous
e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program?
 
J

John Myung

Really good article.
When i was looking for such information, i stumbled across this website called http://www.outlooksetting.com . Really informative site. Check it.

Hello All, I am new here.

I do not know how to set up 2003 on my new computer. Can anyone help? I have
tried to locate steps online to know avail. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Pamela
On Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:42 PM DL wrote:
That might depend on the type of email account you have, eg pop / Hotmail
/Gmail etc
 

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