Sheet Tab Text Not Visible

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prosumer

I am not able to see the text in any of the sheet tabs on my
spreadsheets. If I click on the tab, the text becomes visible but that
is the only time. Otherwise, the tabs are visible but their names are
not.

I also can't find any documentation that talks about changing the
sheet tab color in case that happens to be the problem. Or,
alternatively, I'm not sure if this is some type of bug.

I'm using OS 10.4.9 and Excel X for Mac, Service Release 1
 
C

CyberTaz

DO NOT follow the suggestion to "trash your MS Office X and reinstall it" -
you'll surely compound the current situation with a host of other issues.
Reinstalling _any_ part of Office is rarely the cure, and if it *is*
warranted you must do a proper removal first. Before even considering such a
course of action there are a number of corrective measures to take.

Make sure Office X is fully up-to-date - 10.1.9 is the current version, so
download & apply it from the Mactopia site if necessary.

Next, download & apply the OS X 10.4.9 Combo updater appropriate for your
Mac (PPC or Intel, you don't specify which). The updater obtained through
Apple's Software Update feature doesn't seem to be [always] reliable.

After both of the above, run Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions routine
& see if that resolves the issue. If not, post back with whatever the
results are for some responsible suggestions as to what further steps to
take. Also, include any additional details such as the origin of the file
and anything else that may have happened around the same time this surfaced.
Is it only this particular file or *all* files? Any add-ins installed?

BTW - XL on the Mac (any version) doesn't provide for changing the color of
sheet tabs. Perhaps in 2008???;-)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
J

JE McGimpsey

I am not able to see the text in any of the sheet tabs on my
spreadsheets. If I click on the tab, the text becomes visible but that
is the only time. Otherwise, the tabs are visible but their names are
not.

I'm using OS 10.4.9 and Excel X for Mac, Service Release 1

IIRC, this happened with early versions of XLv.X. I think it should be
fixed with later updates.
 
E

Edwin Tam

Mr. Jones,

May I ask what are the "a host of other issues" which "will surely compound
the situation with"? I didn't realize those actions can be THAT WRONG (or
you made it sound even a bit scary. Like "DO NOT take panadol when you have
a headache! Go for a body check!") I suggested that because I did that at
least 40 times during the Office X beta testing (I recall there were 18
betas), and both my computer and I still survived without "a host of other
issues".

This was the first time I saw someone posting "do not follow the suggestion
of that guy! That is bad, & bad, & bad. You must do what I tell you" in the
newsgroup. I always thought suggestions posted here are "options", "viable
alternatives". Appending the 3 characters "M-V-P" to your name doesn't mean
that "you are the judge" in the newsgroup. (Hey! You got the MVP? I got it
twice also!)

Office 2008? You don't have it.


Regards,
Edwin Tam
http://www.vonixx.com



DO NOT follow the suggestion to "trash your MS Office X and reinstall it" -
you'll surely compound the current situation with a host of other issues.
Reinstalling _any_ part of Office is rarely the cure, and if it *is*
warranted you must do a proper removal first. Before even considering such a
course of action there are a number of corrective measures to take.

Make sure Office X is fully up-to-date - 10.1.9 is the current version, so
download & apply it from the Mactopia site if necessary.

Next, download & apply the OS X 10.4.9 Combo updater appropriate for your
Mac (PPC or Intel, you don't specify which). The updater obtained through
Apple's Software Update feature doesn't seem to be [always] reliable.

After both of the above, run Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions routine
& see if that resolves the issue. If not, post back with whatever the
results are for some responsible suggestions as to what further steps to
take. Also, include any additional details such as the origin of the file
and anything else that may have happened around the same time this surfaced.
Is it only this particular file or *all* files? Any add-ins installed?

BTW - XL on the Mac (any version) doesn't provide for changing the color of
sheet tabs. Perhaps in 2008???;-)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



I am not able to see the text in any of the sheet tabs on my
spreadsheets. If I click on the tab, the text becomes visible but that
is the only time. Otherwise, the tabs are visible but their names are
not.

I also can't find any documentation that talks about changing the
sheet tab color in case that happens to be the problem. Or,
alternatively, I'm not sure if this is some type of bug.

I'm using OS 10.4.9 and Excel X for Mac, Service Release 1
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Edwin Tam said:
I always thought suggestions posted here are "options", "viable
alternatives"

Of course not! Some suggestions are simply wrong. Some are
counterproductive. Some are just wastes of time. The reader has to
evaluate the alternatives based first on their content, and then on the
reputation of the person responding. Your claim to being "the World's
Best Excel Development Specialist" perhaps gives your posts a lot of
credibility in many people's eyes. Bob's body of posts speak for
themselves.
Appending the 3 characters "M-V-P" to your name doesn't mean
that "you are the judge" in the newsgroup.

Bob's reply wasn't acting as a newsgroup judge. It was giving advice
based on his technical evaluation of a previous suggestion. While I
generally concur in that evaluation (though I think it more likely a
waste of time than something really bad), your reply is still out there
for people to see. The only mention of his award is in his sig. He's
entitled to his opinion just as anyone else is.
Office 2008? You don't have it.

I wonder how such a definitive statement, assuming one had first-hand
knowledge, could be made without violating an NDA? While Office 2008
certainly exists in some form (at least within Microsoft), those who
have it just as certainly aren't allowed to confirm it here (though I
can definitively say that *I* don't have it <g>).
 
E

Edwin Tam

Hey! Why you guys keep picking each of my statements and say I'm wrong wrong
wrong bad bad bad?!!? I really hate this.

My point was simple:
- I don't like being unnecessarily evaluated, especially with exaggerated
statements and adjectives which are misleading.

You are now trying to defend for Bob, with parts of my previous message
deleted, (leaving only those parts which helps your defense) which further
mislead others.

Everyone posts here to share and to help. And here should be a peaceful
place for casual discussions. I know that you both helped lots of people,
and give good suggestions. Everyone deserves to be treated in a more
friendly way. But now I felt like an alien, and stepped on your piece of
land, and gang members come to "take care of me".

OK. So, now, I learnt that every post here will be classified in a 1st stage
screening as one of "good", "wrong", "counterproductive", "waste of time".
And 2nd-ly, a matching of the 1st stage answer with "the person's
credibility", "reputation", etc. The overall result will them be "critically
evaluated" by you guys. And the whole objective is to help readers to
understand that "the answers are *of course not* options nor viable
alternatives".

Finally, it's interesting to see that you even criticize my "Office 2008"
statement, and linked it to some form of legal interpretation. I can only
use the Windows Vista slogan "WOW!" to respond. Any more criticism? My
punctuations? Or line breaks?

And, do you mind stop, and stop picking my words? Had enough.


Regards,
Edwin Tam
http://www.vonixx.com
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Edwin Tam said:
You are now trying to defend for Bob, with parts of my previous message
deleted, (leaving only those parts which helps your defense) which further
mislead others.

Wow.

That interpretation is so radically different than mine that I literally
don't know where to begin...
 
C

CyberTaz

Sorry to have ruffled your feathers, Edwin, but the downside(s) of Trashing
Office & reinstalling are so well documented in this forum as well as others
that they need not be recapped here. As John wrote, however, reinstalling
apps on a Mac *rarely* fixes anything as the apps themselves are *rarely*
what break & it doesn't replace all of what could be broken.

Most significantly in this case, however, the OP mentioned _one_ relatively
minor problem with _one_ program in the suite, perhaps affecting only _one_
file and your advice was to trash the entire suite & reinstall it.
Furthermore, there was absolutely nothing of a diagnostic nature in your
post to even suggest that such a radical step was anything less than a
"routine fix" when *anything* goes wrong. In retrospect don't you think
that's a bit rash?

As for your other comments, let me just point out that there has never been
any such attempt to censor you or anyone else. Quite frankly I have seen a
number of your helpful posts in the past, which is all the more reason why I
was rather shocked by the one in question. The fact remains that when
*anyone's* recommendations are likely to do more harm than good - even mine
- that need to be pointed out. If I hadn't someone else would have, it's
just that I "got there first".

Further, nowhere in my reply did I even suggest that the OP "must do" what I
suggested... Nor did I simply advise against following your advice without
offering an alternative approach... Nor did I level any criticism at you
personally. If you read all that into this one message then I doubt there is
any point in continuing the discussion.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



Mr. Jones,

May I ask what are the "a host of other issues" which "will surely compound
the situation with"? I didn't realize those actions can be THAT WRONG (or
you made it sound even a bit scary. Like "DO NOT take panadol when you have
a headache! Go for a body check!") I suggested that because I did that at
least 40 times during the Office X beta testing (I recall there were 18
betas), and both my computer and I still survived without "a host of other
issues".

This was the first time I saw someone posting "do not follow the suggestion
of that guy! That is bad, & bad, & bad. You must do what I tell you" in the
newsgroup. I always thought suggestions posted here are "options", "viable
alternatives". Appending the 3 characters "M-V-P" to your name doesn't mean
that "you are the judge" in the newsgroup. (Hey! You got the MVP? I got it
twice also!)

Office 2008? You don't have it.


Regards,
Edwin Tam
http://www.vonixx.com



DO NOT follow the suggestion to "trash your MS Office X and reinstall it" -
you'll surely compound the current situation with a host of other issues.
Reinstalling _any_ part of Office is rarely the cure, and if it *is*
warranted you must do a proper removal first. Before even considering such a
course of action there are a number of corrective measures to take.

Make sure Office X is fully up-to-date - 10.1.9 is the current version, so
download & apply it from the Mactopia site if necessary.

Next, download & apply the OS X 10.4.9 Combo updater appropriate for your
Mac (PPC or Intel, you don't specify which). The updater obtained through
Apple's Software Update feature doesn't seem to be [always] reliable.

After both of the above, run Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions routine
& see if that resolves the issue. If not, post back with whatever the
results are for some responsible suggestions as to what further steps to
take. Also, include any additional details such as the origin of the file
and anything else that may have happened around the same time this surfaced.
Is it only this particular file or *all* files? Any add-ins installed?

BTW - XL on the Mac (any version) doesn't provide for changing the color of
sheet tabs. Perhaps in 2008???;-)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



I am not able to see the text in any of the sheet tabs on my
spreadsheets. If I click on the tab, the text becomes visible but that
is the only time. Otherwise, the tabs are visible but their names are
not.

I also can't find any documentation that talks about changing the
sheet tab color in case that happens to be the problem. Or,
alternatively, I'm not sure if this is some type of bug.

I'm using OS 10.4.9 and Excel X for Mac, Service Release 1
 

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