J
jb
How do I deal with unexpected sick days? Where should I
charge this time to?
thx
jb
charge this time to?
thx
jb
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Ignacio Martín
jb:
You can create a sick mensual task for each resource in your project, for
example.
In the new version of Project for enterprise this task exist by default for
each resource in the project Server.
Un saludo
Ignacio Martín
MVP Project
www.rmconsultores.com
[email protected]
Tf. 34 91 314 99 77
You can create a sick mensual task for each resource in your project, for
example.
In the new version of Project for enterprise this task exist by default for
each resource in the project Server.
Un saludo
Ignacio Martín
MVP Project
www.rmconsultores.com
[email protected]
Tf. 34 91 314 99 77
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Dale Howard
jb --
Open your Enterprise Resource Pool and select the resource who was sick.
Double-click the resource's name and click the Working Time tab. Select the
day(s) on which the resource was sick and select the Nonworking Time option.
Go to the Notes tab and document this nonworking time occurrence with a
short note. Click OK and then save and close the Enterprise Resource Pool.
Hope this helps.
eDale
Open your Enterprise Resource Pool and select the resource who was sick.
Double-click the resource's name and click the Working Time tab. Select the
day(s) on which the resource was sick and select the Nonworking Time option.
Go to the Notes tab and document this nonworking time occurrence with a
short note. Click OK and then save and close the Enterprise Resource Pool.
Hope this helps.
eDale
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jb
Thank you Dale. Now should I add a sick task to the admin
plan have them charge time to that?
thx \
jb
plan have them charge time to that?
thx \
jb
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Dale Howard
jb --
No, I personally would not add a task representing the sick time. The sick
time is shown on the resource's personal calendar, and the resource Note
documents the nonworking time as a sick day. Any tasks to which this
resource was scheduled to work during that sick day will now be rescheduled
one day later. This represents the real world, unless the resource was
working at home while he/she was sick.
I personally use tasks to represent activities that must be performed on a
project. I don't think being sick is a project-related activity, unless
"hurling" is considered project work! HA!
Thus, you will note that I disagree with the other gentleman's answer to
your original post. Hope this helps.
eDale
No, I personally would not add a task representing the sick time. The sick
time is shown on the resource's personal calendar, and the resource Note
documents the nonworking time as a sick day. Any tasks to which this
resource was scheduled to work during that sick day will now be rescheduled
one day later. This represents the real world, unless the resource was
working at home while he/she was sick.
I personally use tasks to represent activities that must be performed on a
project. I don't think being sick is a project-related activity, unless
"hurling" is considered project work! HA!
Thus, you will note that I disagree with the other gentleman's answer to
your original post. Hope this helps.
eDale
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Ignacio Martín
jb said:
Where should I charge this time to?
Look like jb wont to know the sick hours of your enterprise resources. This
is typically for organitations that make resources administration and share
the resources pool with many projects and many projects managers.
For example how many hours, when and for what spend the resources during any
period. Is frecuently to have tasks for trainning time, maintenance time,
holidays time, sick time,... to make statisc for example for future
projects.
This information is important for resource administration, not only for
task administration. In this way think Microsoft with new version when make
by default some tasks that appear like independents not included in
particular projects, it happen when look all the task and the schedule of
the resource in your project portfolio.
Is possible jb wont to know the sick cost of your resources in the project.
Not all the projects, enterprises or projects managers are the same.
jb you decide
--
Un saludo
Ignacio Martín
MVP Project
www.rmconsultores.com
[email protected]
Tf. 34 91 314 99 77
Where should I charge this time to?
Look like jb wont to know the sick hours of your enterprise resources. This
is typically for organitations that make resources administration and share
the resources pool with many projects and many projects managers.
For example how many hours, when and for what spend the resources during any
period. Is frecuently to have tasks for trainning time, maintenance time,
holidays time, sick time,... to make statisc for example for future
projects.
This information is important for resource administration, not only for
task administration. In this way think Microsoft with new version when make
by default some tasks that appear like independents not included in
particular projects, it happen when look all the task and the schedule of
the resource in your project portfolio.
Is possible jb wont to know the sick cost of your resources in the project.
Not all the projects, enterprises or projects managers are the same.
jb you decide
--
Un saludo
Ignacio Martín
MVP Project
www.rmconsultores.com
[email protected]
Tf. 34 91 314 99 77
T
TGG
jb,
We've had this discussion with Microsoft as to the handling of Planned
(normal project) vs Unplanned(Sick, Jury duty, Vacation, etc)
activities and how these should impact a resource's availability.
Project provides the opportunity to manage resource capacity (think
inventory), but doesn't quite go all the way. The administrative
plans in Project 2003 still are not connected to the resource
availability, which is a problem in my opinion.
In our organization, we would like to use Project to manage capacity,
not just manage work. In order to do that, you have to have a
accurate accounting of unplanned activities in addition to planned
activities to arrive at the true capacity of your resources.
For now, we are logging the hours in Non-project time and adjusting
the overall availability of the resource quarterly based on those
nonproject time numbers. It's not perfect, but it is workable.
--Treb
We've had this discussion with Microsoft as to the handling of Planned
(normal project) vs Unplanned(Sick, Jury duty, Vacation, etc)
activities and how these should impact a resource's availability.
Project provides the opportunity to manage resource capacity (think
inventory), but doesn't quite go all the way. The administrative
plans in Project 2003 still are not connected to the resource
availability, which is a problem in my opinion.
In our organization, we would like to use Project to manage capacity,
not just manage work. In order to do that, you have to have a
accurate accounting of unplanned activities in addition to planned
activities to arrive at the true capacity of your resources.
For now, we are logging the hours in Non-project time and adjusting
the overall availability of the resource quarterly based on those
nonproject time numbers. It's not perfect, but it is workable.
--Treb
S
Steve House
Here's a problem with including sick times etc as tasks in a project. You
have resource Jim who is a member of the resource pool. He's assigned this
week 2 days on a task in Project A, 1 day is to be spent doing completely
non-project related work, making sales calls with marketing for example, and
2 days on a task on project B. He calls in sick for the whole week. Which
project's budget should get charged his sick time cost and how should they
be apportoned?
I think of tasks as representing activities that create the project's
deliverables. If it's not doing that, it's not an activity on the project
and its cost is not part of the project budget. Project IMHO is designed to
monitor the costs of the work involved in producing the project's output and
is not the appropriate tool to monitor your costs of doing business. You
may use a burdened labour cost to apportion to the project the part of your
overall costs of doing business that are directly impacted by it, but the
rest of it doesn't appear in or influence the project budget at all.
have resource Jim who is a member of the resource pool. He's assigned this
week 2 days on a task in Project A, 1 day is to be spent doing completely
non-project related work, making sales calls with marketing for example, and
2 days on a task on project B. He calls in sick for the whole week. Which
project's budget should get charged his sick time cost and how should they
be apportoned?
I think of tasks as representing activities that create the project's
deliverables. If it's not doing that, it's not an activity on the project
and its cost is not part of the project budget. Project IMHO is designed to
monitor the costs of the work involved in producing the project's output and
is not the appropriate tool to monitor your costs of doing business. You
may use a burdened labour cost to apportion to the project the part of your
overall costs of doing business that are directly impacted by it, but the
rest of it doesn't appear in or influence the project budget at all.