Simple host???

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Aquinas

Long story short, I have a friend and a deal with simplehost.com. It seems
like everything I read that they are decent hosting company. But also from
what I read on here, they do not have windows servers which I seem to
understand would work better with Frontpage. I am very much a newbie and
don't need alot of problems. If I go with simplehost on a linux server am I
in for countless problems. Any help appreciated.
Thanks
 
W

Wally S

Assuming that it is a reliable host, if you don't use special Front Page
features, you won't have any problem. You can FTP the files over with
software like Cute FTP or FTP Voyager. I do this, and I find it more
convenient than publishing with FP. Included pages will come across but will
not be automatically updated.

Wally
 
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Wally S

I just went on the Simplehost website, and they say that they have FrontPage
extensions. So there seems to be some difference between what they say and
the info that you got.

But they seem to offer an awful lot for only $7.50 a month. Is there some
catch?

Wally S
 
S

Steve Easton

If the servers have FrontPage extensions you will be fine using FrontPage.

All of my sites run on Apache / UNIX servers with extensions.

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S

Steve Easton

Windows server and apache with extensions are 2 different things.

$7.50 a month is higher than I pay for my server accounts. I pay $50.00 per year for a site at
www.123ehost.com


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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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J

JDR

FrontPage Server extensions are available for Linux / Unix platforms. If the
host supports them and they are installed, I would recommend you publish via
FrontPage.

If you FTP files you will break the server extensions and this will cause
problems down the road, especially since you mentioned you are new to this,
so I would recommend you set your site up with the extensions enabled and
publish with FrontPage.

JDR
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W

Wally S

I don't use any FP special features, and I've been using FTP for the last
few years with a server that has FP extensions. It has never caused me a
problem.

Wally S
 
J

JDR

That's because you aren't using the FP features, and as you mentioned in the
previous post,

"Included pages will come across but will not be automatically updated."

If you were using FP to publish, it would be able to manage your site and
update included files without having to FTP all your files that contain
includes everytime they change.

For somebody experienced that knows what to use and what not to use, FTP is
fine, but for a new user that has no experience, I personally think they
should publish with FP. If they don't, you can bet we'll be seeing the "My
forms don't work" subject shortly.

JDR
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Wally S

Hi JDR,

Interesting point. I know the advantages of publishing with FP because I
have done it, and I know that in some cases it is essential. I'm not against
it. I just could not figure out what you meant by "problems down the road"
since I had already mentioned that this will not work if you use FP
features. But you are right in mentioning that a newbie may not get that
little detail straight.

I use only a few includes, and when I update them, I just let it be that all
future pages will be updated. But that's my own case.

Wally S
 
J

JDR

Hey Wally,

I absolutely agree with you in regards to using FTP and FrontPage. I also
use FTP exclusively to several host serveres that do not support FPSE and
when you know what to stay away from it's not a big deal.

You are correct, I only meant to emphasize that for the original poster,
since they mentioned they are new and wanted as few problems as possible.

Hopefully they will take that into consideration when they start.

JDR
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R

Rosco

It seems that FrontPage extensions are not enough to use .mdb databases
and .asp created with FrontPage. For these, do I really need a
dedicated Microsoft server?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Yes, you must be hosted on a Windows IIS server if you want to use Access as a database. Unix/Linux
can support ASP if the host purchases and installs support for it, however they can not run a Access
database.

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Rosco

I used an Access database when developing my web site simply because it
seemed convenient to use. If I want to use a UNIX host, what kind of
data collection method can I use? I don't have to manipulate data - I
just want to store information from forms.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Most likely it would be, MySQL, but you need to check with your host.

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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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Ronx

If it is pure storage, and not displaying the stored data, then use
the FrontPage form (requires FP extensions) to save the data in a text
file.
For displaying the data on the web you will need a script (PHP,
Perl/CGI or ASP if supported) to get the data from the text files, or
use whatever database your host supports, usually MySQL.
 
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