Simple numbered list under Word 97

[chrizio]

I enjoy joining your community.

Attached is a MS Word document causing problems I'm figthing a lon
time with.
This document was once created with Word 95 and a long time later was
converted to Word 97 format. A few of simple numbered list is the only
one content of the document. These are neither bullets nor outlin
numbered list.
Strange in the lists is that some of them have a lot of positions, u
to 200.
Pretty all of the list positions end up with a year string.
Problematic is the list position counting. There are some places withi
single
list where Word starts to count up with the value 1.
This is no formatting issue. I have checked paragraph formatting an
list formatting.
The start from beginning option is disabled.

The attached hex view shows one the problematic places. Each lis
position ends up with 0x0d byte.
This should be the carriage return character (for example the on
between two strings
"Warszawa 1997 " and "Bartoszewicz W., Gogolewska H.: "). The positio
starting with
"Bartoszewicz W., Gogolewska H.: " gets the number 1. This is wrong. I
belongs to
the same list as the one above. There is some regularity at all issu
places:
a big amount of zero bytes. These zero bytes
chain is not to see in the Word document (desired behavieuor).
I suppose these zero byte chains are causing the Word starting u
suddenly to count
the list with the 1 number.

Do you have some idea ? Is my suspicion right ?

There are areas where each character is occupying only one byte
and areas where each character is stored with two bytes.
These two types of areas occure interchangeable along the whol
document.
Is this rigth ?

If you have some idea please let me know.
Sorry for my english and thank you for your attention.
chrizi

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[Word Heretic]

G'day chrizio,

Your English is quite passable mate.

You need to define a style that has list numbering, usually List
Number does the trick. Then you restart the points required and pray.
However, if you have long null sequences this can indicate document
corruption. Save as RTF and reload may help here, or even a simple
Maggie - cuttenpaste everything bar the last para mark in each section
to a new doc.

www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/index.htm has some good info, my Word Spellbook
has more, and I'm about to stick up a whole lot more free numbering
macro magic on my website as well - news is too ephemeral.

Steve Hudson - Word Heretic
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[chrizio]

Dear Word Heretic.

Some time ago I have tried to eliminate the problem
with own style definition. For each list within the document
I created a dedicated style utilizing the nummeration formatting.
It did not help.

Inspired by your hint I saved the document as a plain text file.
I deleted (utilizing the window's notepad)
all formatting remainings in form of numbering digits and similar.
As expected the zero byte chains disappeared.
Each line finished with 0xd 0xa sequence (carriage return, new lin
control bytes).
Each document's byte was stored on single byte. All checks done wit
hex viewer.
That's fine I thought. Then I opened the plain text .txt file in th
Word,
made some formatting actions (because the Word has autmatically applie
paragraph intedention,
distances before paragraph which i did not wish to myself) and saved i
in the Word format.
The list format I have not applied yet. I needed to have the contro
about
what the Word is creating at each critical step.
I opened the new Word document in the Hex-Viewer and the old, wel
known
problems were back.
Document areas with each character stored on two bytes and areas with
characters stored on single byte. Long zero bytes chains occuring
some number of paragraphs. I was no more motivated to apply th
listing
format.

I suppose the Word is generating some faults in the document's content
(invisible for the user) which in turn cause the list do not function
properly.

chrizi

 

[Word Heretic]

G'day chrizio <[email protected]>,

WOW! You are getting SERIOUS here.

Each line finished with 0xd 0xa sequence (carriage return, new line
control bytes).

Good, this ideal. The ASCII strip is way too excessive, but 100%
effective

Document areas with each character stored on two bytes and areas with
characters stored on single byte. Long zero bytes chains occuring
some number of paragraphs.

This is Word letting some free space for future para formats. It's an
empty 'manual formatting' box. I am surprised at 'long' though. If I
was to count up the space taken for a full para format it would be
some bytes though. Also, any other objects mid para may physically
locate themselves (definition wise) at the end of para.

Yes, Word's numbering is screwy - but it CAN be made to work. Each
list of the same appearance belongs to the SAME list template.

Proc 1

1 Do this
2 Do that
3 Do the other


blah blah

Proc 2

1 Fiddle this
2 Fiddle that


This is ONE LIST. ONE LIST - TWO RESTARTS! Yeah?


This is two lists:

1) Hey babe
2) Yeah babe
3) Sweet babe

1- What the?
2- Where the?
3- How the?

Two different appearances = two list definitions.


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