SMALLER symbol looks like paragraph but not found when search ^p

[Joe Galia]

To Microsoft Word users:
Please tell me what is the smaller nonprinting symbol that looks like a
paragraph symbol, but when you search for ^p, the symbol is not found.
The reason I'm asking is that sometimes in our long-line documents, the
symbol sometimes gets put at the end of a line, followed then by the usual
paragraph mark, which puts an unwanted blank line in our documents. As
second question would be: How do I get rid of the symbols?
Thank you,
Sincerely, Joe Galia

 

[Gary Smith]

Does it look exactly like a paragraph symbol, but smaller? If so, it may
be simply another paragparh symbol in a smaller font size. If that's not
it, is this character something you can copy and paste? If so, copy it
and paste it into the "Characters" box on this page
<http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/uniview/conversion>, press the tab
key, and then post back with whatever appears in the "Hexadecimal code
points" box.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Was this document created in Word? Not too awful long ago I had someone with
a similar issue in Publisher. It was rather frustrating. It turned out that
some of the data was created in a Corel (or Adobe?) program and pasted into
Publisher. It brought over these weird little characters. I think it may
even have been a P.

 

[Joe Galia]

Hi JoAnn,
Yes, it happens in Word. I found out that it is a space character, but
not a space character! It shows up at the end of just a few of the lines in
my document, after I save the document as a Microsoft Word document.
Interestingly, if I put my cursor at the end of that line, the cursor lands
to the right of the character. If I then type the left arrow key once, the
cursor passes over the character, but if I then type the right arrow key
once, it goes to the next line as if the symbol were a paragraph marker. If
I put my cursor at the end of a line that doesn't have the symbol, the cursor
lands to the left of the paragraph symbol. So when saving this document as a
Microsoft Word document, Word puts a character there that appears to have
some of the characteristics of a space from the right, but it also has the
characteristics of a paragraph symbol from the left, so that it puts an
unwanted blank line in my document! I'd like to know why, and what settings
I could use so that it doesn't happen.
Thanks for your reply,
Joe

Was this document created in Word? Not too awful long ago I had someone with
a similar issue in Publisher. It was rather frustrating. It turned out that
some of the data was created in a Corel (or Adobe?) program and pasted into
Publisher. It brought over these weird little characters. I think it may
even have been a P.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

To Microsoft Word users:
Please tell me what is the smaller nonprinting symbol that looks like a
paragraph symbol, but when you search for ^p, the symbol is not found.
The reason I'm asking is that sometimes in our long-line documents, the
symbol sometimes gets put at the end of a line, followed then by the usual
paragraph mark, which puts an unwanted blank line in our documents. As
second question would be: How do I get rid of the symbols?
Thank you,
Sincerely, Joe Galia

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Like I said, it was happening to someone else who had pasted the text in
from another source. Are you creating this text from scratch inside that
document or was it pasted from another source?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Hi JoAnn,
Yes, it happens in Word. I found out that it is a space character, but
not a space character! It shows up at the end of just a few of the lines
in
my document, after I save the document as a Microsoft Word document.
Interestingly, if I put my cursor at the end of that line, the cursor
lands
to the right of the character. If I then type the left arrow key once,
the
cursor passes over the character, but if I then type the right arrow key
once, it goes to the next line as if the symbol were a paragraph marker.
If
I put my cursor at the end of a line that doesn't have the symbol, the
cursor
lands to the left of the paragraph symbol. So when saving this document
as a
Microsoft Word document, Word puts a character there that appears to have
some of the characteristics of a space from the right, but it also has the
characteristics of a paragraph symbol from the left, so that it puts an
unwanted blank line in my document! I'd like to know why, and what
settings
I could use so that it doesn't happen.
Thanks for your reply,
Joe

Was this document created in Word? Not too awful long ago I had someone
with
a similar issue in Publisher. It was rather frustrating. It turned out
that
some of the data was created in a Corel (or Adobe?) program and pasted
into
Publisher. It brought over these weird little characters. I think it may
even have been a P.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

To Microsoft Word users:
Please tell me what is the smaller nonprinting symbol that looks like
a
paragraph symbol, but when you search for ^p, the symbol is not found.
The reason I'm asking is that sometimes in our long-line documents,
the
symbol sometimes gets put at the end of a line, followed then by the
usual
paragraph mark, which puts an unwanted blank line in our documents. As
second question would be: How do I get rid of the symbols?
Thank you,
Sincerely, Joe Galia

 

[Joe Galia]

JoAnn,
It came from another source, the .lst file from a SAS (Statistical
Analysis Software) run on a Unix mainframe. There was no pasting. We just
opened the .lst file from Word, then saved it as a Word document.
Joe

Like I said, it was happening to someone else who had pasted the text in
from another source. Are you creating this text from scratch inside that
document or was it pasted from another source?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Hi JoAnn,
Yes, it happens in Word. I found out that it is a space character, but
not a space character! It shows up at the end of just a few of the lines
in
my document, after I save the document as a Microsoft Word document.
Interestingly, if I put my cursor at the end of that line, the cursor
lands
to the right of the character. If I then type the left arrow key once,
the
cursor passes over the character, but if I then type the right arrow key
once, it goes to the next line as if the symbol were a paragraph marker.
If
I put my cursor at the end of a line that doesn't have the symbol, the
cursor
lands to the left of the paragraph symbol. So when saving this document
as a
Microsoft Word document, Word puts a character there that appears to have
some of the characteristics of a space from the right, but it also has the
characteristics of a paragraph symbol from the left, so that it puts an
unwanted blank line in my document! I'd like to know why, and what
settings
I could use so that it doesn't happen.
Thanks for your reply,
Joe

Was this document created in Word? Not too awful long ago I had someone
with
a similar issue in Publisher. It was rather frustrating. It turned out
that
some of the data was created in a Corel (or Adobe?) program and pasted
into
Publisher. It brought over these weird little characters. I think it may
even have been a P.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




To Microsoft Word users:
Please tell me what is the smaller nonprinting symbol that looks like
a
paragraph symbol, but when you search for ^p, the symbol is not found.
The reason I'm asking is that sometimes in our long-line documents,
the
symbol sometimes gets put at the end of a line, followed then by the
usual
paragraph mark, which puts an unwanted blank line in our documents. As
second question would be: How do I get rid of the symbols?
Thank you,
Sincerely, Joe Galia

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

I'd put money on that symbol resulting from that transfer. You may not be
able to avoid it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

JoAnn,
It came from another source, the .lst file from a SAS (Statistical
Analysis Software) run on a Unix mainframe. There was no pasting. We
just
opened the .lst file from Word, then saved it as a Word document.
Joe

Like I said, it was happening to someone else who had pasted the text in
from another source. Are you creating this text from scratch inside that
document or was it pasted from another source?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Hi JoAnn,
Yes, it happens in Word. I found out that it is a space character,
but
not a space character! It shows up at the end of just a few of the
lines
in
my document, after I save the document as a Microsoft Word document.
Interestingly, if I put my cursor at the end of that line, the cursor
lands
to the right of the character. If I then type the left arrow key once,
the
cursor passes over the character, but if I then type the right arrow
key
once, it goes to the next line as if the symbol were a paragraph
marker.
If
I put my cursor at the end of a line that doesn't have the symbol, the
cursor
lands to the left of the paragraph symbol. So when saving this
document
as a
Microsoft Word document, Word puts a character there that appears to
have
some of the characteristics of a space from the right, but it also has
the
characteristics of a paragraph symbol from the left, so that it puts an
unwanted blank line in my document! I'd like to know why, and what
settings
I could use so that it doesn't happen.
Thanks for your reply,
Joe

:

Was this document created in Word? Not too awful long ago I had
someone
with
a similar issue in Publisher. It was rather frustrating. It turned out
that
some of the data was created in a Corel (or Adobe?) program and pasted
into
Publisher. It brought over these weird little characters. I think it
may
even have been a P.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




To Microsoft Word users:
Please tell me what is the smaller nonprinting symbol that looks
like
a
paragraph symbol, but when you search for ^p, the symbol is not
found.
The reason I'm asking is that sometimes in our long-line
documents,
the
symbol sometimes gets put at the end of a line, followed then by the
usual
paragraph mark, which puts an unwanted blank line in our documents.
As
second question would be: How do I get rid of the symbols?
Thank you,
Sincerely, Joe Galia

 

[Gary Smith]

My guess is that what you're getting is a control character in the Unix
file that Word doesn't completely understand. It may be a Unix linebreak
character, which is different from that used by Windows-based programs.
If that's the situation, running a newline fixer in the file before
opening it in Word should solve the problem. The program I use for this
is NewLine from Steve Miller's Console Toolbox collection
(http://stevemiller.net/apps/), but there are many other similar programs
to choose from. I like NewLine because it writes the converted file over
the original so you don't have multiple files to manage.

I can't say for sure that this program will fix your particular problem,
but it's a useful tool to have on hand in any event.

JoAnn,
It came from another source, the .lst file from a SAS (Statistical
Analysis Software) run on a Unix mainframe. There was no pasting. We just
opened the .lst file from Word, then saved it as a Word document.
Joe

Like I said, it was happening to someone else who had pasted the text in
from another source. Are you creating this text from scratch inside that
document or was it pasted from another source?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Hi JoAnn,
Yes, it happens in Word. I found out that it is a space character, but
not a space character! It shows up at the end of just a few of the lines
in
my document, after I save the document as a Microsoft Word document.
Interestingly, if I put my cursor at the end of that line, the cursor
lands
to the right of the character. If I then type the left arrow key once,
the
cursor passes over the character, but if I then type the right arrow key
once, it goes to the next line as if the symbol were a paragraph marker.
If
I put my cursor at the end of a line that doesn't have the symbol, the
cursor
lands to the left of the paragraph symbol. So when saving this document
as a
Microsoft Word document, Word puts a character there that appears to have
some of the characteristics of a space from the right, but it also has the
characteristics of a paragraph symbol from the left, so that it puts an
unwanted blank line in my document! I'd like to know why, and what
settings
I could use so that it doesn't happen.
Thanks for your reply,
Joe

:

Was this document created in Word? Not too awful long ago I had someone
with
a similar issue in Publisher. It was rather frustrating. It turned out
that
some of the data was created in a Corel (or Adobe?) program and pasted
into
Publisher. It brought over these weird little characters. I think it may
even have been a P.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




To Microsoft Word users:
Please tell me what is the smaller nonprinting symbol that looks like
a
paragraph symbol, but when you search for ^p, the symbol is not found.
The reason I'm asking is that sometimes in our long-line documents,
the
symbol sometimes gets put at the end of a line, followed then by the
usual
paragraph mark, which puts an unwanted blank line in our documents. As
second question would be: How do I get rid of the symbols?
Thank you,
Sincerely, Joe Galia