SQL SERVER User Interface through ACCESS forms

P

polytimi8

Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible to create a form in Access2000,
which would function like a calendar for 8 operating rooms in
hospital, showing which hours are those closed for a specific date.
For this intersection I would like to be appeared the name of the
doctor, the name of the patient and the kind of operation.
Furthemore I would like this intersection to be marked in the calendar
with a colour, showing that this room is closed for that time.
The data for this form are going to be extracted from a table stored
in SQL Server 2000.
Generally the whole application is stored in SQL Server( stored
procedures, tables, diagrams etc.)

1)How this can be done? Is this going to be through VB or not? Can I
make a template in Excel spreadsheet put it in a form
and apply code on it?


I would like also to make forms(in Access) for user-entry data that
will use stored procedures of SQL Server with pushing the OK button.
The stored procedures would take as arguments the user-entry data from
the
forms.
I thought to make a pass-through query which would use a VB function
and would take as arguments the user's values
and after would pass these values in the stored procedures.

2)Can this be done through the pass-through query, that is Sql
Server "understands" VB or better Access pass-through query process
the VB commands before be connected with the Sql Server?
What do you think of this as an idea?
My problem is that I really don't know how to combine VB code with
Transact Sql code.
Can you give an example or any ideas where I can find the relative
information?

Thanks you in advance.
 
S

switter

You have two choices using access 200x:

access data project (.adp)
only supports sql server
views, sprocs, diagrams, tables are all accessible in the project as if
your were working in sql server
uses sql server security
forms, reports, etc.. are designed specifically to be used with sql
server, include sprocs with parameters

access jet database (.mdb)
supports sql server through odbc
views and tables must be linked using odbc
sprocs can be linked using pass-through queries, but unless you know
vba/ado/dao, you won't be able
to run sprocs with parameters
uses jet security unless you don't save the password with the linked
table, then it uses both.

In a nut shell, since you don't know vba and if you want to get up and
running right away I would suggest the adp format. Using jet with sql
server, especially in the case of sprocs with parameters, requires a working
knowledge of not only vba, but ado or dao also. I would add that there are
a lot of very well-seasoned jet programmers out there however, and plenty of
examples of code if you decide on jet (comp.databases.ms-access). lots of
smart people there when it comes to jet
 
S

switter

You have two choices using access 200x:

access data project (.adp)
only supports sql server
views, sprocs, diagrams, tables are all accessible in the project as if
your were working in sql server
uses sql server security
forms, reports, etc.. are designed specifically to be used with sql
server, include sprocs with parameters

access jet database (.mdb)
supports sql server through odbc
views and tables must be linked using odbc
sprocs can be linked using pass-through queries, but unless you know
vba/ado/dao, you won't be able
to run sprocs with parameters
uses jet security unless you don't save the password with the linked
table, then it uses both.

In a nut shell, since you don't know vba and if you want to get up and
running right away I would suggest the adp format. Using jet with sql
server, especially in the case of sprocs with parameters, requires a working
knowledge of not only vba, but ado or dao also. I would add that there are
a lot of very well-seasoned jet programmers out there however, and plenty of
examples of code if you decide on jet (comp.databases.ms-access). lots of
smart people there when it comes to jet
 
M

Mike Painter

Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible to create a form in Access2000,
which would function like a calendar for 8 operating rooms in
hospital, showing which hours are those closed for a specific date.
For this intersection I would like to be appeared the name of the
doctor, the name of the patient and the kind of operation.
Furthemore I would like this intersection to be marked in the calendar
with a colour, showing that this room is closed for that time.
The data for this form are going to be extracted from a table stored
in SQL Server 2000.
Generally the whole application is stored in SQL Server( stored
procedures, tables, diagrams etc.)

Possible but it will require a lot of coding.
If you are not the boss GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING.
Once you get it running somebody is going to ask you for a simple method to
move operations and extend the times.
I had a similar job once in the early 80's with MSFT Basic and a DOS based
system.
The people I worked for sold the job, got a good bit of cash, then told me
about it.
I was real close when the hospital pulled the plug.

There are some visual scheduling packages out there.
 
M

Mike Painter

Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible to create a form in Access2000,
which would function like a calendar for 8 operating rooms in
hospital, showing which hours are those closed for a specific date.
For this intersection I would like to be appeared the name of the
doctor, the name of the patient and the kind of operation.
Furthemore I would like this intersection to be marked in the calendar
with a colour, showing that this room is closed for that time.
The data for this form are going to be extracted from a table stored
in SQL Server 2000.
Generally the whole application is stored in SQL Server( stored
procedures, tables, diagrams etc.)

Possible but it will require a lot of coding.
If you are not the boss GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING.
Once you get it running somebody is going to ask you for a simple method to
move operations and extend the times.
I had a similar job once in the early 80's with MSFT Basic and a DOS based
system.
The people I worked for sold the job, got a good bit of cash, then told me
about it.
I was real close when the hospital pulled the plug.

There are some visual scheduling packages out there.
 
A

Andy

Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible to create a form in Access2000,
which would function like a calendar for 8 operating rooms in
hospital, showing which hours are those closed for a specific date.
For this intersection I would like to be appeared the name of the
doctor, the name of the patient and the kind of operation.
Furthemore I would like this intersection to be marked in the calendar
with a colour, showing that this room is closed for that time.
The data for this form are going to be extracted from a table stored
in SQL Server 2000.
Generally the whole application is stored in SQL Server( stored
procedures, tables, diagrams etc.)

1)How this can be done? Is this going to be through VB or not? Can I
make a template in Excel spreadsheet put it in a form
and apply code on it?

It'd probably be possible to get something to work from excel.
Be aware that this is one of those apps where even someone with a lot
of excel or access experience could struggle.
If you knew someone was a pro, you'd have asked em...
I would like also to make forms(in Access) for user-entry data that
will use stored procedures of SQL Server with pushing the OK button.
The stored procedures would take as arguments the user-entry data from
the
forms.

Lyle's the guy for ADP stuff...
I'd write this in vb.net rather than access if I was doing it.
By the time you mess about with all the adp stuff you may as well be
working in vb anyhow.
YMMV
I thought to make a pass-through query which would use a VB function
and would take as arguments the user's values
and after would pass these values in the stored procedures.

2)Can this be done through the pass-through query, that is Sql
Server "understands" VB or better Access pass-through query process
the VB commands before be connected with the Sql Server?
What do you think of this as an idea?

Many devs using access on sql server just use linked tables and odbc.
No stored procedures.
You could well find there is little difference in overhead that way.
Depends on your nuber of users, how dynamic the data is, security
requirements etc etc.
My problem is that I really don't know how to combine VB code with
Transact Sql code.
Can you give an example or any ideas where I can find the relative
information?

You can make an ado connection and execute T-SQL as a string or invoke
stored procedures.
Look up connection and command in help for more info....
When using access I lean more towards just connecting forms up to the
database, this'd probably mean unbound fields and hence writing code
to populate them.

On the off chance you literally meant do this in VB...
Here's a vb.net example of code to run a stored proc.
The ado bits are pretty similar to doing this from access.

Dim sconn As String = Conn_String()
Dim conn As SqlConnection = New SqlConnection(sconn)
conn.Open()
Dim cmdWrite_22 As SqlCommand = New SqlCommand("Capacity_22_Months",
conn)
Try
With cmdWrite_22
.CommandType = CommandType.StoredProcedure
.Parameters.Add("@Bucket_Rules_Id",
CStr(Me.cboBkts.SelectedValue))
i = .ExecuteNonQuery
End With
Catch ex As SqlException
MsgBox("Error: " & CStr(ex.Errors(0).Number) & " " &
ex.Errors(0).Message)
End Try
conn.Close()
Thanks you in advance.

All these are my opinions, feel free to read the faq on advice as to
how valuable these may or not be.
 
A

Andy

Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible to create a form in Access2000,
which would function like a calendar for 8 operating rooms in
hospital, showing which hours are those closed for a specific date.
For this intersection I would like to be appeared the name of the
doctor, the name of the patient and the kind of operation.
Furthemore I would like this intersection to be marked in the calendar
with a colour, showing that this room is closed for that time.
The data for this form are going to be extracted from a table stored
in SQL Server 2000.
Generally the whole application is stored in SQL Server( stored
procedures, tables, diagrams etc.)

1)How this can be done? Is this going to be through VB or not? Can I
make a template in Excel spreadsheet put it in a form
and apply code on it?

It'd probably be possible to get something to work from excel.
Be aware that this is one of those apps where even someone with a lot
of excel or access experience could struggle.
If you knew someone was a pro, you'd have asked em...
I would like also to make forms(in Access) for user-entry data that
will use stored procedures of SQL Server with pushing the OK button.
The stored procedures would take as arguments the user-entry data from
the
forms.

Lyle's the guy for ADP stuff...
I'd write this in vb.net rather than access if I was doing it.
By the time you mess about with all the adp stuff you may as well be
working in vb anyhow.
YMMV
I thought to make a pass-through query which would use a VB function
and would take as arguments the user's values
and after would pass these values in the stored procedures.

2)Can this be done through the pass-through query, that is Sql
Server "understands" VB or better Access pass-through query process
the VB commands before be connected with the Sql Server?
What do you think of this as an idea?

Many devs using access on sql server just use linked tables and odbc.
No stored procedures.
You could well find there is little difference in overhead that way.
Depends on your nuber of users, how dynamic the data is, security
requirements etc etc.
My problem is that I really don't know how to combine VB code with
Transact Sql code.
Can you give an example or any ideas where I can find the relative
information?

You can make an ado connection and execute T-SQL as a string or invoke
stored procedures.
Look up connection and command in help for more info....
When using access I lean more towards just connecting forms up to the
database, this'd probably mean unbound fields and hence writing code
to populate them.

On the off chance you literally meant do this in VB...
Here's a vb.net example of code to run a stored proc.
The ado bits are pretty similar to doing this from access.

Dim sconn As String = Conn_String()
Dim conn As SqlConnection = New SqlConnection(sconn)
conn.Open()
Dim cmdWrite_22 As SqlCommand = New SqlCommand("Capacity_22_Months",
conn)
Try
With cmdWrite_22
.CommandType = CommandType.StoredProcedure
.Parameters.Add("@Bucket_Rules_Id",
CStr(Me.cboBkts.SelectedValue))
i = .ExecuteNonQuery
End With
Catch ex As SqlException
MsgBox("Error: " & CStr(ex.Errors(0).Number) & " " &
ex.Errors(0).Message)
End Try
conn.Close()
Thanks you in advance.

All these are my opinions, feel free to read the faq on advice as to
how valuable these may or not be.
 

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