Table questions

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joerothermich

Why can't I draw cells wherever I want on the page
How do I set indent/margin inside a cell so text is not the touching border?
why is this program so un-userfriendly
 
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wp

----- joerothermich wrote: ----

Why can't I draw cells wherever I want on the page

Because of the way html code is written and browsers vary, there are limitations. However, with a little thought and nested tables, etc. you can accomplish this quite easily

How do I set indent/margin inside a cell so text is not the touching border?

Right-click inside the table and select table properties, there you can set cell spacing and padding among other things
You also have cell properties for even more control

why is this program so un-userfriendly

As compared to? EVERY program requires a certain "learning curve" and none are perfect
Go to Borders and pick up a book on using FrontPage
Special Edition Using Office Microsoft FrontPage 2003 -- by Paul Colligan (Author), Jim Cheshire (Author
Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out -- by Jim Buyens (Author)
 
R

Rick Budde

I bet you didn't say "Why are these legs so un-
userfriendly" the first time you tried to walk as a
youngster.

Have a little patience. You will get there over time.
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----- joerothermich wrote: -----

Why can't I draw cells wherever I want on the page?

Because of the way html code is written and browsers
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vary, there are limitations. However, with a little
thought and nested tables, etc. you can accomplish this
quite easily.
How do I set indent/margin inside a cell so text is not the touching border?

Right-click inside the table and select table
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properties, there you can set cell spacing and padding
among other things.
You also have cell properties for even more control.

why is this program so un-userfriendly?

As compared to? EVERY program requires a
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certain "learning curve" and none are perfect.
Go to Borders and pick up a book on using FrontPage.
Special Edition Using Office Microsoft FrontPage 2003 --
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by Paul Colligan (Author), Jim Cheshire (Author)
 
J

joerothermich

Thanks for the help and advice. I guess I was just expecting FP to work alot like Quark does- Where you have almost total freedom. I'll learn, but its going to take me a while. I was just getting really frustrated last night. Thanks again.
 
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joerothermich

Well, I've got one of my main pages up and running with tables, and I think it will solve the problems I was having earlier. I did the tutorial on Office online and that helped me out alot. let me know what you think. Its just a page for a softball team I play on, but its forcing me to learn FP. Thanks
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chris leeds

FrontPage and others like photo impact will "trick" you into thinking you
can do layout like in quark. the problem is that in quark or indesign
you're working with known sizes (like a piece of paper) but on the web you
never know your visitor's browser size, screen resolution, etc., so there
has to be constraints such as tables or .css-p.

Once you get into laying out tables, and tables within them, cutting up
images to fit in the tables etc, you'll be rolling.

HTH

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joerothermich said:
Thanks for the help and advice. I guess I was just expecting FP to work
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alot like Quark does- Where you have almost total freedom. I'll learn, but
its going to take me a while. I was just getting really frustrated last
night. Thanks again.
 
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chris leeds

ok, not bad. the only thing is your table is a little wide. you may want
to re-align your content so it'll fit down to maybe 800px. wide.

HTH

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joerothermich said:
Well, I've got one of my main pages up and running with tables, and I
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think it will solve the problems I was having earlier. I did the tutorial on
Office online and that helped me out alot. let me know what you think. Its
just a page for a softball team I play on, but its forcing me to learn FP.
Thanks.
 
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joerothermich

It may just be me, but 800px wide seems like it is really small. Is that the standard size for most web sites? I was thinking 900px would be fine for the smaller resolutions, but I'm sure you know more than I do. Even at 900, the page just seems really empty, but I'm also viewing at 1280X960, so my view may be a little distorted compared to what resolution most people use. A friend of mine mentioned that my fonts seemed a little big for web site viewing. What are standard sizes for web sites? 12 and 14?
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

800 x 600 is still a widely used resolution, so if you set your pages to a fixed 900, those user
will have to scroll left to right to read, not a good thing.

If you use % tables, then the page will adjust to the user screen resolution, however keep any image
to max of 750 pixel wide.

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joerothermich said:
It may just be me, but 800px wide seems like it is really small. Is that the standard size for
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most web sites? I was thinking 900px would be fine for the smaller resolutions, but I'm sure you
know more than I do. Even at 900, the page just seems really empty, but I'm also viewing at
1280X960, so my view may be a little distorted compared to what resolution most people use. A friend
of mine mentioned that my fonts seemed a little big for web site viewing. What are standard sizes
for web sites? 12 and 14?
 
J

joerothermich

I understand what you are saying, I just can't figure it out. Can you give me some help on how to set the tables to adjust for the different screen resolutions?
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

Table Menu | Insert Table and set the width to 100% etc. then insert all page content into this
table. You can nest additional table to help with the layout.

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joerothermich said:
I understand what you are saying, I just can't figure it out. Can you give me some help on how to
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set the tables to adjust for the different screen resolutions?
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

No. You have to set the table to a % width, if you set it to 750 pixels (800 resolution) it will not
adjust to the users browser's window.

Also keep in mind that many users of higher resolutions do not view at full screen. Example: I run
at 1280 x 1024, but view sites and other apps at around 800 pixels.

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joerothermich said:
When setting the tables to % width, I'm guessing its better to set the tables' widith at a smaller
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size (800px) and then when people with higher resolutions view the page it will stretch out. At
least that is what I am assumming. Am I right?
 
M

Murray

100%

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molly said:
Joe:

I am having the same problem when others view my tables with images in it.
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What % did you set your width so that others with different resolutions can
view without problems?and it looks like that will solve my problem. I'll have some friends check
it out as well. Thanks alot for the help. I really do appreciate it.
 
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