Text box internal margin

Discussion in 'Word Graphics' started by Sophia, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. Sophia

    Sophia Guest

    I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the border of
    the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?
     
    Sophia, Feb 6, 2007
    #1
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  2. Sophia

    Jezebel Guest

    Format > Paragraph > Space Above.



    "Sophia" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    > still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the border
    > of
    > the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?
     
    Jezebel, Feb 6, 2007
    #2
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  3. Sophia

    Peo Guest

    Even if you've selected no extra space above a paragraph, and no internal
    margin in your textbox, you still cannot always get the letters right up
    under the upper edge of your textbox. The letter "a" can't reach all the way
    to the "roof", becaus there need to be "space" for the capital "A" to be
    visibly taller. Even normal capital letters don't go all the way to the top,
    because they need to "leave room" for the odd european accent letters, like
    "É" or "Å".

    For that reason, if it's paramount for you to get the text really close to
    that edge, you may need to experiment with "funny" typefaces where all the
    letters go "all the way to the top" of their allotted space...

    --
    Can I run that on my trusty ol' Commodore 64...? ;-)


    "Jezebel" skrev:

    > Format > Paragraph > Space Above.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Sophia" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    > > still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the border
    > > of
    > > the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?

    >
    >
    >
     
    Peo, Feb 6, 2007
    #3
  4. Sophia

    Sophia Guest

    Well, between the two comments below, I managed to find what I was looking
    for.

    I forgot to mention that my text is rotated 90 degrees so the white space at
    the "top" is actually to the right of the text itself. With that in mind, I
    went to Format, Paragraph. Didn't find "space above" but noticed the "Indent"
    was the only value greater than zero. Set that to zero and now the text is
    nice and tight inside the border of the text box. So, thanks for pointing me
    in the right direction anyhow!

    "Peo" wrote:

    > Even if you've selected no extra space above a paragraph, and no internal
    > margin in your textbox, you still cannot always get the letters right up
    > under the upper edge of your textbox. The letter "a" can't reach all the way
    > to the "roof", becaus there need to be "space" for the capital "A" to be
    > visibly taller. Even normal capital letters don't go all the way to the top,
    > because they need to "leave room" for the odd european accent letters, like
    > "É" or "Å".
    >
    > For that reason, if it's paramount for you to get the text really close to
    > that edge, you may need to experiment with "funny" typefaces where all the
    > letters go "all the way to the top" of their allotted space...
    >
    > --
    > Can I run that on my trusty ol' Commodore 64...? ;-)
    >
    >
    > "Jezebel" skrev:
    >
    > > Format > Paragraph > Space Above.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Sophia" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > >I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    > > > still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the border
    > > > of
    > > > the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?

    > >
    > >
    > >
     
    Sophia, Feb 7, 2007
    #4
  5. Deviating so far away from the Office 2003-2007 product must be the worst mistake Microsoft ever made. Vista was bad, I was told Windows 2010 was an improvement; however, i beg to differ. Microsoft made a classic mistake fixing a thing that wasn't broke. I am certain I will never find a way to set my internal margins to fit my text box format, don't try it, it ain't happenin' & nobody has that much time to crack the code if they are trying to get any work done.

    > On Monday, February 05, 2007 7:34 PM Sophi wrote:


    > I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    > still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the border of
    > the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?



    >> On Monday, February 05, 2007 9:00 PM Jezebel wrote:


    >> Format > Paragraph > Space Above.



    >>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:51 PM Pe wrote:


    >>> Even if you've selected no extra space above a paragraph, and no internal
    >>> margin in your textbox, you still cannot always get the letters right up
    >>> under the upper edge of your textbox. The letter "a" can't reach all the way
    >>> to the "roof", becaus there need to be "space" for the capital "A" to be
    >>> visibly taller. Even normal capital letters don't go all the way to the top,
    >>> because they need to "leave room" for the odd european accent letters, like
    >>> "É" or "Å".
    >>>
    >>> For that reason, if it's paramount for you to get the text really close to
    >>> that edge, you may need to experiment with "funny" typefaces where all the
    >>> letters go "all the way to the top" of their allotted space...
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Can I run that on my trusty ol' Commodore 64...? ;-)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Jezebel" skrev:



    >>>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:01 PM Sophi wrote:


    >>>> Well, between the two comments below, I managed to find what I was looking
    >>>> for.
    >>>>
    >>>> I forgot to mention that my text is rotated 90 degrees so the white space at
    >>>> the "top" is actually to the right of the text itself. With that in mind, I
    >>>> went to Format, Paragraph. Didn't find "space above" but noticed the "Indent"
    >>>> was the only value greater than zero. Set that to zero and now the text is
    >>>> nice and tight inside the border of the text box. So, thanks for pointing me
    >>>> in the right direction anyhow!
    >>>>
    >>>> "Peo" wrote:
     
    Terri Stafford, Aug 31, 2011
    #5
  6. Sophia

    Stefan Blom Guest

    Have you read the replies earlier in this thread? In particular, you can reduce the line spacing and spacing before to get the text closer to the top edge of the text box. Also, note that text will be easier to read with a bit of white space around it.

    Stefan Blom
    Microsoft Word MVP



    "Terri Stafford" wrote in message news:...

    Deviating so far away from the Office 2003-2007 product must be the worst mistake Microsoft ever made. Vista was bad, I was told Windows 2010 was an improvement; however, i beg to differ. Microsoft made a classic mistake fixing a thing that wasn't broke. I am certain I will never find a way to set my internal margins to fit my text box format, don't try it, it ain't happenin' & nobody has that much time to crack the code if they are trying to get any work done.

    > On Monday, February 05, 2007 7:34 PM Sophi wrote:


    > I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    > still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the border of
    > the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?



    >> On Monday, February 05, 2007 9:00 PM Jezebel wrote:


    >> Format > Paragraph > Space Above.



    >>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:51 PM Pe wrote:


    >>> Even if you've selected no extra space above a paragraph, and no internal
    >>> margin in your textbox, you still cannot always get the letters right up
    >>> under the upper edge of your textbox. The letter "a" can't reach all the way
    >>> to the "roof", becaus there need to be "space" for the capital "A" to be
    >>> visibly taller. Even normal capital letters don't go all the way to the top,
    >>> because they need to "leave room" for the odd european accent letters, like
    >>> "É" or "Å".
    >>>
    >>> For that reason, if it's paramount for you to get the text really close to
    >>> that edge, you may need to experiment with "funny" typefaces where all the
    >>> letters go "all the way to the top" of their allotted space...
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Can I run that on my trusty ol' Commodore 64...? ;-)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Jezebel" skrev:



    >>>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:01 PM Sophi wrote:


    >>>> Well, between the two comments below, I managed to find what I was looking
    >>>> for.
    >>>>
    >>>> I forgot to mention that my text is rotated 90 degrees so the white space at
    >>>> the "top" is actually to the right of the text itself. With that in mind, I
    >>>> went to Format, Paragraph. Didn't find "space above" but noticed the "Indent"
    >>>> was the only value greater than zero. Set that to zero and now the text is
    >>>> nice and tight inside the border of the text box. So, thanks for pointing me
    >>>> in the right direction anyhow!
    >>>>
    >>>> "Peo" wrote:
     
    Stefan Blom, Sep 1, 2011
    #6
  7. Not to mention that the "top" in this case turned out to be the left side,
    which was indented. If the OP had, at the outset, mentioned that the text
    was rotated in the text box, this solution might have turned up sooner. In
    any case, Terri's rant is not called for here, as (almost) nothing about
    formatting text boxes has changed from Word 2003 to 2010.

    --
    Suzanne S. Barnhill
    Microsoft MVP (Word)
    Words into Type
    Fairhope, Alabama USA
    http://word.mvps.org

    "Stefan Blom" <> wrote in message
    news:j3nv6e$r9e$...
    > Have you read the replies earlier in this thread? In particular, you can
    > reduce the line spacing and spacing before to get the text closer to the
    > top edge of the text box. Also, note that text will be easier to read with
    > a bit of white space around it.
    >
    > Stefan Blom
    > Microsoft Word MVP
    >
    >
    >
    > "Terri Stafford" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > Deviating so far away from the Office 2003-2007 product must be the worst
    > mistake Microsoft ever made. Vista was bad, I was told Windows 2010 was an
    > improvement; however, i beg to differ. Microsoft made a classic mistake
    > fixing a thing that wasn't broke. I am certain I will never find a way to
    > set my internal margins to fit my text box format, don't try it, it ain't
    > happenin' & nobody has that much time to crack the code if they are trying
    > to get any work done.
    >
    >> On Monday, February 05, 2007 7:34 PM Sophi wrote:

    >
    >> I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    >> still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the
    >> border of the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?

    >
    >
    >>> On Monday, February 05, 2007 9:00 PM Jezebel wrote:

    >
    >>> Format > Paragraph > Space Above.

    >
    >
    >>>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:51 PM Pe wrote:

    >
    >>>> Even if you've selected no extra space above a paragraph, and no
    >>>> internal margin in your textbox, you still cannot always get the
    >>>> letters right up under the upper edge of your textbox. The letter "a"
    >>>> can't reach all the way to the "roof", becaus there need to be "space"
    >>>> for the capital "A" to be visibly taller. Even normal capital letters
    >>>> don't go all the way to the top, because they need to "leave room" for
    >>>> the odd european accent letters, like "É" or "Å".
    >>>>
    >>>> For that reason, if it's paramount for you to get the text really close
    >>>> to that edge, you may need to experiment with "funny" typefaces where
    >>>> all the letters go "all the way to the top" of their allotted space...
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Can I run that on my trusty ol' Commodore 64...? ;-)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Jezebel" skrev:

    >
    >
    >>>>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:01 PM Sophi wrote:

    >
    >>>>> Well, between the two comments below, I managed to find what I was
    >>>>> looking for. I forgot to mention that my text is rotated 90 degrees so
    >>>>> the white space at the "top" is actually to the right of the text
    >>>>> itself. With that in mind, I went to Format, Paragraph. Didn't find
    >>>>> "space above" but noticed the "Indent" was the only value greater than
    >>>>> zero. Set that to zero and now the text is nice and tight inside the
    >>>>> border of the text box. So, thanks for pointing me in the right
    >>>>> direction anyhow!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Peo" wrote:

    >
    >
     
    Suzanne S. Barnhill, Sep 1, 2011
    #7
  8. Sophia

    Stefan Blom Guest

    Well, obviously I haven't read through all the messages in the thread.

    Good point, though, about the formatting of text boxes. Believe it or not, but not everything can be blamed on the ribbon interface. :)

    Stefan Blom
    Microsoft Word MVP



    "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message news:j3o114$7mt$...

    Not to mention that the "top" in this case turned out to be the left side,
    which was indented. If the OP had, at the outset, mentioned that the text
    was rotated in the text box, this solution might have turned up sooner. In
    any case, Terri's rant is not called for here, as (almost) nothing about
    formatting text boxes has changed from Word 2003 to 2010.

    --
    Suzanne S. Barnhill
    Microsoft MVP (Word)
    Words into Type
    Fairhope, Alabama USA
    http://word.mvps.org

    "Stefan Blom" <> wrote in message
    news:j3nv6e$r9e$...
    > Have you read the replies earlier in this thread? In particular, you can
    > reduce the line spacing and spacing before to get the text closer to the
    > top edge of the text box. Also, note that text will be easier to read with
    > a bit of white space around it.
    >
    > Stefan Blom
    > Microsoft Word MVP
    >
    >
    >
    > "Terri Stafford" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > Deviating so far away from the Office 2003-2007 product must be the worst
    > mistake Microsoft ever made. Vista was bad, I was told Windows 2010 was an
    > improvement; however, i beg to differ. Microsoft made a classic mistake
    > fixing a thing that wasn't broke. I am certain I will never find a way to
    > set my internal margins to fit my text box format, don't try it, it ain't
    > happenin' & nobody has that much time to crack the code if they are trying
    > to get any work done.
    >
    >> On Monday, February 05, 2007 7:34 PM Sophi wrote:

    >
    >> I set the internal margin of a text box to zero on all four sides. Yet, I
    >> still have white space between the top-most edge of my text and the
    >> border of the text box. Anybody know what to do about that?

    >
    >
    >>> On Monday, February 05, 2007 9:00 PM Jezebel wrote:

    >
    >>> Format > Paragraph > Space Above.

    >
    >
    >>>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:51 PM Pe wrote:

    >
    >>>> Even if you've selected no extra space above a paragraph, and no
    >>>> internal margin in your textbox, you still cannot always get the
    >>>> letters right up under the upper edge of your textbox. The letter "a"
    >>>> can't reach all the way to the "roof", becaus there need to be "space"
    >>>> for the capital "A" to be visibly taller. Even normal capital letters
    >>>> don't go all the way to the top, because they need to "leave room" for
    >>>> the odd european accent letters, like "É" or "Å".
    >>>>
    >>>> For that reason, if it's paramount for you to get the text really close
    >>>> to that edge, you may need to experiment with "funny" typefaces where
    >>>> all the letters go "all the way to the top" of their allotted space...
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Can I run that on my trusty ol' Commodore 64...? ;-)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Jezebel" skrev:

    >
    >
    >>>>> On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:01 PM Sophi wrote:

    >
    >>>>> Well, between the two comments below, I managed to find what I was
    >>>>> looking for. I forgot to mention that my text is rotated 90 degrees so
    >>>>> the white space at the "top" is actually to the right of the text
    >>>>> itself. With that in mind, I went to Format, Paragraph. Didn't find
    >>>>> "space above" but noticed the "Indent" was the only value greater than
    >>>>> zero. Set that to zero and now the text is nice and tight inside the
    >>>>> border of the text box. So, thanks for pointing me in the right
    >>>>> direction anyhow!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Peo" wrote:

    >
    >
     
    Stefan Blom, Sep 4, 2011
    #8
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