To www or not to www

J

JL Paules

Okay - kind of an off topic question. ... Why do some site not need the www
and some do?
 
S

Susan

The hosting company I use has configured their server to allow the address
to work with the "www" or without the "www". So it must depend on who
configures the server.
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

It really depends on the host and how they have set up the DNS servers. Most host create two
entries, one for and one without the www.

However I prefer to always use the www when access a domain, with a subdomain, www is not used.

Also when entering a URL in an email, the www should always be used, especially if not including the
www or if a subdomain.

Example

ycoln-resources.com = doesn't appear as a live link
www.ycoln-resources.com = does appear as a live link
http://ycoln-resources.com = does appear as a live link
= does appear as a live link

Also if working with server-side scripting that uses sessions, then the example above with and
without the www would each be a separate session.

This can cause issues with shopping carts and restricted area login functions, where the session is
suspended if a user changes from one URL to another, the same applies to using https.

Example if a user comes into my site at , a session is created, now if
the user click a link that take them to http://ycoln-resources.com then another session is create,
the first is suspended, same happen if they were to click on a link that start with https.

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D

David Baxter

The site/domain is yoursite.com - http://www.yoursite.com is the root
"subweb" or "subdomain" of that domain - on some hosts/servers, you can
create additional subdomains, like http://new.yoursite.com and
http://products.yoursite.com and so on...

However, the "www" is expected as the default by most people and so my
preference is to include it in all links and submissions to directories
and search engines, etc. Either form (http://www.yoursite.com or
http://yoursite.com ) will lead to your site (except in unusual
circumstances) but it does matter to search engines, since many/most
will see http://www.yoursite.com and http://yoursite.com as separate
sites - since the object is to accrue as much "PageRank" (Google) or
other ranking index (other search engines) as possible, being consistent
in how you identify your site will improve your search positions.
 
J

JL Paules

I was just curious. I belong to a non-profit organization and I maintain my
region's site. We use www. I just received the newsletter for the Rocky
Mountain region and they do not use www. I was curious why some do and some
don't.
 
S

Steve Easton

That is due to a registry setting / entry.

;-)

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I think it may also have something to do with the browser too. In IE6 you can enter just;
mywebsite.com (no http:// or www) and it will resolve it properly.


| I was just curious. I belong to a non-profit organization and I maintain my
| region's site. We use www. I just received the newsletter for the Rocky
| Mountain region and they do not use www. I was curious why some do and some
| don't.
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| JoAnn Paules - MVP Microsoft Publisher
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| | > The hosting company I use has configured their server to allow the address
| > to work with the "www" or without the "www". So it must depend on who
| > configures the server.
| > | > > Okay - kind of an off topic question. ... Why do some site not need the
| > www
| > > and some do?
| > >
| > > --
| > > JoAnn Paules - MVP Microsoft Publisher
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
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S

Surfin Stan

Thomas gets the vote for the best answer, although there is alot more to it than can be explained in a single post. It's like a question about Microsoft Publisher... there's alot that can be said about something as simple as adding text. (Do you want to add a text field, WordArt, Text on a graphic image??... what KIND of text?)
In MY DNS world, you should be able to get to most of my sites using either www.domain.com or just domain.com. I set my dns up that way so that the people who do NOT put in the www(my wife) as well as the people who do use the www can still get to the site. You could actually set it up for anything.domain.com as well
IN DNS, basically, it's an A record... you can read more about it... in plain english at http://www.zoneedit.com/doc/faq.html#faq31 . You could even setup your own DNS account there...play with up to 5 domain names ... and see how it's setup on the webserver AND the DNS server.
In WebServer technology... it's a host header. (in IIS go to the advanced button under WebSite Properties.. Add whatever host header you want... BUT.. you MUST HAVE THE A RECORD set up on the DNS server as well.. or it still won't work.
That being said... it is also possible that the site is running on Sharepoint, and when the site was setup... the Server Admin CHOSE which one to use www... or not www. You can still resolve both if you want... but it's somewhat different than a normal site. Sharepoint handles the host headers in IIS for you and you don't add the host header under the advanced tab as described above.
hmm... now I guess I can go back to searching for the RSS feed thingie in FP
 
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Andrew Murray

would it have to do with whether the site has been previously cached as well? I
mean you put in company.com and the browser searches the cache for the matching
site
 
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