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kaycee96
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC
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Stefan Blom
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are
set to update automatically, by default).
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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are
set to update automatically, by default).
--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
set TOCkaycee96 said:I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a
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Stefan Blom
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to
update the entire table, if prompted.
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to
update the entire table, if prompted.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if
you have changed the margins.
you have changed the margins.
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Stefan Blom
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess.
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? <g> I don't have enough experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine.
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being
updated.
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being
updated.
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Stefan Blom
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab
stop adjust to page margins!
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab
stop adjust to page margins!
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.
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Stefan Blom
At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.
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Stefan Blom
I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting.
The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops
for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically
adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop
to adjust, either, if there were several of them.)
Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set
relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the
"flexible" tab stops.
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting.
The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops
for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically
adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop
to adjust, either, if there were several of them.)
Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set
relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the
"flexible" tab stops.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to add tab
*characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to make
the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers.
*characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to make
the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers.
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Stefan Blom
Use the \w switch?
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
This does work (IIRC), but it requires a tab character in the heading
itself, which can be a problem in centered headings. I think that when I
want a classy-looking TOC I usually end up just unlinking the field and
doing the last bit of formatting by hand.
itself, which can be a problem in centered headings. I think that when I
want a classy-looking TOC I usually end up just unlinking the field and
doing the last bit of formatting by hand.